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oontribe

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new to growing!
#22263537 - 09/20/15 05:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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this is my 1st time growing ethno. stuff, iam familiar with mushroom cultivation.
so my plan is to grow Trichocereus peruvians and reed canary grass (phalaris arundinacea) as a source for dmt.
before asking, i dont have any other source for dmt (only few seeds of psychotria viridis and i read that they are so hard to grow) so dont tell me to look for acacias in my country or order some MHRB or ACRB or get yourself a p.viridis leaf.
so regarding the phalaris, what is the best pot to use (size and shape)? and how many seeds per pot?
iam planing on using this soil mix:
1 part compost and sand 1 part perlite or verm 1 part peatmoss
is it a good mix? if not what else should i consider?
ill plant at least 20 - 30 seeds to make sure that i get a good amount for extraction.
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Re: new to growing! [Re: oontribe]
#22263565 - 09/20/15 06:05 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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That soil mix should work fine for the grass but will likely need more sand for the trichs.
Youll never grow enough grass for an extraction in pots, plant a field.
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oontribe

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Re: new to growing! [Re: Zombi3]
#22263618 - 09/20/15 06:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Zombi3 said: Youll never grow enough grass for an extraction in pots, plant a field.
lol 
so i cant collect like 1 - 1.5 kgs of the phalaris leaves from 30 pots?
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Re: new to growing! [Re: oontribe]
#22263910 - 09/20/15 09:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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What's the face palm for? If you do 30 pots maybe. But still, why wouldn't you just plant a whole garden with grass? Pots seems silly to me.
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oontribe

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Re: new to growing! [Re: Zombi3]
#22263928 - 09/20/15 09:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The facepalm because iam shocked as i thiught a few pots aould do the trick! Unfortunately its an indoor cultivation.
Maybe i can use this long pots and plant 2-3 seeds per pot
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Re: new to growing! [Re: oontribe]
#22263930 - 09/20/15 09:27 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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What's your set up like? Lights etc etc
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oontribe

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Re: new to growing! [Re: Zombi3]
#22263951 - 09/20/15 09:34 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have two big empty room with windows...and i can get a couple of 6000k light pulps
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Re: new to growing! [Re: oontribe]
#22263955 - 09/20/15 09:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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How many watts per square foot will you have? Are they CFL bulbs?
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Re: new to growing! [Re: oontribe]
#22264264 - 09/20/15 11:03 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Be careful! Some Arundinacea can contain gramine in high concentrations. Gramine can be a lethal neurotoxin and the worst part is that it is an indole alkaloid.
Since it is an indole, just like tryptamines, you WILL extract it with the DMT.
Read this. It's a wiki article but it's pretty spot on.
I would do it still, but do a lot of research on cleansing it of its gramine before you consume anything you extract.
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oontribe

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Quote:
Zombi3 said: How many watts per square foot will you have? Are they CFL bulbs?
i can use indirect sunlight with artificial but i didnt calculate it yet gonna read more about this...i can get white strong light bulbs.
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natedawgnow said: Be careful! Some Arundinacea can contain gramine in high concentrations. Gramine can be a lethal neurotoxin and the worst part is that it is an indole alkaloid.
Since it is an indole, just like tryptamines, you WILL extract it with the DMT.
Read this. It's a wiki article but it's pretty spot on.
I would do it still, but do a lot of research on cleansing it of its gramine before you consume anything you extract.
thanks for the info man
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oontribe

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Re: new to growing! [Re: oontribe]
#22264773 - 09/20/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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so i have made this mix for the cacti:
2 parts perlite 1 part soil 1/2 part sand 1/2 part peatmoss or a little bit less
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Re: new to growing! [Re: oontribe]
#22265104 - 09/20/15 02:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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By indirect sunlight + artificial I assume you mean a room with windows and ceiling lights. That's not enough light at all. I mean you can probably have stuff survive in that but it won't thrive. Even with 30 pots I'm not even a little convinced you'll be able to grow enough grass to extract in a spare bedroom. The cactus will do ok but still same answer, it won't get very big and it won't thrive. You need minimum 50w of light per square foot if you wanna do any sort of real growing.
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oontribe

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Re: new to growing! [Re: Zombi3]
#22265159 - 09/20/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Gonna do that light setting thanks man. then p.viridis from seeds it is... Any tips on the p.viridis?
Edited by oontribe (09/20/15 02:46 PM)
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Re: new to growing! [Re: oontribe]
#22266306 - 09/20/15 06:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well IMHO you need to look for acacias in your country or order some MHRB or ACRB or get yourself a p.viridis leaf.

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oontribe

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looool thanks man
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oontribe

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Re: new to growing! [Re: oontribe]
#22268774 - 09/21/15 10:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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1-2 seeds per pot Same light that i use to grow shrooms
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