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420shroom
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i have 3 mono tubs 2.5 cubic feet of coco coir 20 qts verm 6 lbs of crushed oyster shells steer manure aged and dryed and tons of spawn
will any one be so kind to help a very smart new grower out im in it to grow for hobby and self.
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mrbart4444
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what you wanna know
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420shroom
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mixture and or ratios of what to use and how much for best results.
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mrbart4444
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Welll In my opinion I use
One brick of coir two quarts of verm and 1 cup of gypsum and i usually add 6-8 quarts of spawn
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420shroom
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do i need ?
gypsum hydrated lime peat moss worm castings ph testing strips ??
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mrbart4444
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You dont need oyster shells . As for manure once you see how much substrate a brick of coir gives you , you should be able to eyeball the amount of manure .
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mrbart4444
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Do you need it no . I dont case my tubs unless im growing PE . You do need gypsum though for all of your substrates it provides Vidal nutes
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420shroom
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i was told it helps with yeild {oyster shells}
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mrbart4444
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Gypsum is a better for your substrate than oystershells. The mushrooms like the calcium and sulfur in it.
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420shroom
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ok so ill take the oyster shells back if possible
i need gypsum what stores in town will have that
and do i need any of this other stuff hydrated lime peat moss worm castings ph testing strips ??
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mrbart4444
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idk what stores you have where you live look at hardware stores or something . No you dont need that unless youre going to case your substrate which you shouldnt be doing until you have more of an idea of how to grow. Casing youre substrate needs a high ph non-nutritious layer of peat moss . There is no nutrients in the peat moss and high ph which is the lime prevents mold . The casings function is to provide i layer of moist dirt so the pins and form in 100% humidity . Like i said you dont need to do this yet though. Earth worm castings are not needed youre sub will be nutritious enough with gypsum .
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420shroom
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will i get sufficent growth without a casing layer? if i get the gypsum
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mrbart4444
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420shroom said: will i get sufficent growth without a casing layer? if i get the gypsum
Yea man you will have tons of mushrooms casing isnt needed for cubensis
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420shroom
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sweet ok 2 cups verm 1 cup gypsum 1 brick coco coir (which equals?) 6-8 qts spawn rye berrie jars 1 mono tub how much water?
how long after i mix in mono tub before i change from dark to 8/16 light cycle?
how long to start pinning in mono tub?
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420shroom
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some one please help me with the rest of my questions
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420shroom said: sweet ok 2 cups verm 1 cup gypsum 1 brick coco coir (which equals?) 6-8 qts spawn rye berrie jars 1 mono tub how much water?
how long after i mix in mono tub before i change from dark to 8/16 light cycle?
how long to start pinning in mono tub?
One brick of coir fully hydrated and at field capacity roughly equals about 8-10 quarts, depending how much you put in each jar.
Use "boiling" water and pour it over your coir /verm/ gypsum and cover it up, let it sit for about an hour, then mix it all up, put the cover back on and wait for the mix to cool down.
Wait for your mono to be fully colonized before introducing light. And use a 12/12 light schedule. Natural daylight or with a 6500K daylight bulb.
Roughly 3-5 days after putting your tub into fruiting conditions, you can expect to see pins.
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420shroom said: will i get sufficent growth without a casing layer?
Yes, as long as you keep your moisture right its no problem.
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how much water?
Search Damion5050 bucket tek. You'll be using a gallon of water although some add a little extra (1/4-1/2 qt).
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420shroom said: 2 cups verm
2 QUARTS verm, not cups
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how long after i mix in mono tub before i change from dark to 8/16 light cycle?
how long to start pinning in mono tub?
WIth 6-8 quarts of spawn expect to put into fruiting 12-14 days after mixing it. Pins take 5-7 days after fruiting is introduced
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420shroom
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thanks everyone for your help
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420shroom
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just picked up my gypsum
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420shroom
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just pluked a puerto rican ive never ran this strain only golden teacher and its been a wile and when i grew it was under someones wing. it weighs 8.9 im 130 lbs how p
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mrbart4444
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420shroom said: just pluked a puerto rican ive never ran this strain only golden teacher and its been a wile and when i grew it was under someones wing. it weighs 8.9 im 130 lbs how p
bro regular cubes usually have same potency only Penis envys tend to be more potent . For me a good mushroom trip on regular cubes is like 5-8 grams
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I've read that using oyster shells in the casing will create a nice hard texture, which come in handy when picking. Supooosedly, it makes the fruits easier to just twist off. It's not necessary, but why not try it in at least one tub?
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mrbart4444
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you dont need to try it but do what you want you can mess around trying worrying about ingredients are you can get to growing and cloning untill you get 10oz flushes from your tubs.
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mrbart4444 said:
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420shroom said: just pluked a puerto rican ive never ran this strain only golden teacher and its been a wile and when i grew it was under someones wing. it weighs 8.9 im 130 lbs how p
bro regular cubes usually have same potency only Penis envys tend to be more potent . For me a good mushroom trip on regular cubes is like 5-8 grams
No, you shouldn't take high doses unless you're experienced. Most recommend to take .5 if it's your first time, some people are extremely sensitive to psilocybin. High doses can trigger bad trips.
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mrbart4444
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mrbart4444 said:
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420shroom said: just pluked a puerto rican ive never ran this strain only golden teacher and its been a wile and when i grew it was under someones wing. it weighs 8.9 im 130 lbs how p
bro regular cubes usually have same potency only Penis envys tend to be more potent . For me a good mushroom trip on regular cubes is like 5-8 grams
No, you shouldn't take high doses unless you're experienced. Most recommend to take .5 if it's your first time, some people are extremely sensitive to psilocybin. High doses can trigger bad trips.
\ take atleast two grams .5 youre just gonna be waiting for the effects to kick in the whole trip and be disspointed.
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shellzenone
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Yea if you know you're not one of the sensitive ones, you can start at 2. I'm just saying cus there's some people that can have a level 5 trip with as little as 1 gram. I think 5 would kick my ass! That's how mushrooms get a bad rep.
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420shroom
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Can I water or soak my mushrooms while fruiting?
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Why would you want to do that? 
Just leave them be until they mature. Then re-dunk the sub or mist heavily after each flush.
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