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Offline420shroom
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growing bulk
    #22263371 - 09/20/15 03:03 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i have
3 mono tubs
2.5 cubic feet of coco coir
20 qts verm
6 lbs of crushed oyster shells
steer manure aged and dryed
and tons of spawn


will any one be so kind to help a very smart new grower out im in it to grow for hobby and self.


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Re: growing bulk [Re: 420shroom]
    #22263377 - 09/20/15 03:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

what you wanna know


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Re: growing bulk [Re: mrbart4444]
    #22263379 - 09/20/15 03:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

mixture and or ratios of what to use and how much for best results.


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Re: growing bulk [Re: 420shroom]
    #22263382 - 09/20/15 03:12 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Welll In my opinion I use

One brick of coir two quarts of verm and 1 cup of gypsum
and i usually add 6-8 quarts of spawn


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Re: growing bulk [Re: mrbart4444]
    #22263384 - 09/20/15 03:14 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

do i need ?

gypsum
hydrated lime
peat moss
worm castings
ph testing strips
??


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Invisiblemrbart4444
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Re: growing bulk [Re: 420shroom]
    #22263385 - 09/20/15 03:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You dont need oyster shells .
As for manure once you see how much substrate a brick of coir gives you , you should be able to eyeball the amount of manure  .


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Re: growing bulk [Re: 420shroom]
    #22263387 - 09/20/15 03:16 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Do you need it no . I dont case my tubs unless im growing PE .
You do need gypsum though for all of your substrates it provides Vidal nutes


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Re: growing bulk [Re: mrbart4444]
    #22263389 - 09/20/15 03:16 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i was told it helps with yeild {oyster shells}


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Re: growing bulk [Re: 420shroom]
    #22263391 - 09/20/15 03:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Gypsum is a better for your substrate than oystershells. The mushrooms like the calcium and sulfur in it.
 


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Re: growing bulk [Re: mrbart4444]
    #22263396 - 09/20/15 03:20 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

ok so ill take the oyster shells back if possible

i need gypsum what stores in town will have that

and do i need any of this other stuff
hydrated lime
peat moss
worm castings
ph testing strips
??


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Re: growing bulk [Re: 420shroom]
    #22263407 - 09/20/15 03:28 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

idk what stores you have where you live look at hardware stores or something . No you dont need that unless youre going to case your substrate which you shouldnt be doing until you have more of an idea of how to grow. Casing youre substrate needs a high ph non-nutritious layer of peat moss . There is no nutrients in the peat moss and high ph which is the lime prevents mold . The casings function is to provide i layer of moist dirt so the pins and form in 100% humidity . Like i said you dont need to do this yet though. Earth worm castings are not needed youre sub will be nutritious enough with gypsum .


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Re: growing bulk [Re: mrbart4444]
    #22263417 - 09/20/15 03:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

will i get sufficent growth without a casing layer?
if i get the gypsum


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Re: growing bulk [Re: 420shroom]
    #22263421 - 09/20/15 03:38 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

420shroom said:
will i get sufficent growth without a casing layer?
if i get the gypsum



Yea man you will have tons of mushrooms casing isnt needed for cubensis


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Re: growing bulk [Re: mrbart4444]
    #22263434 - 09/20/15 03:49 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

sweet ok
2 cups verm
1 cup gypsum
1 brick coco coir (which equals?)
6-8 qts spawn rye berrie jars
1 mono tub
how much water?

how long after i mix in mono tub before i change from dark to 8/16 light cycle?

how long to start pinning in mono tub?


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Re: growing bulk [Re: 420shroom]
    #22263475 - 09/20/15 04:20 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

some one please help me with the rest of my questions


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Re: growing bulk [Re: 420shroom]
    #22263596 - 09/20/15 06:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

420shroom said:
sweet ok
2 cups verm
1 cup gypsum
1 brick coco coir (which equals?)
6-8 qts spawn rye berrie jars
1 mono tub
how much water?

how long after i mix in mono tub before i change from dark to 8/16 light cycle?

how long to start pinning in mono tub?



One brick of coir fully hydrated and at field capacity roughly equals about 8-10 quarts, depending how much you put in each jar.

Use "boiling" water and pour it over your coir /verm/ gypsum and cover it up, let it sit for about an hour, then mix it all up, put the cover back on and wait for the mix to cool down.

Wait for your mono to be fully colonized before introducing light. And use a 12/12 light schedule. Natural daylight or with a 6500K daylight bulb.

Roughly 3-5 days after putting your tub into fruiting conditions, you can expect to see pins.


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Re: growing bulk [Re: 420shroom]
    #22263641 - 09/20/15 07:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

420shroom said:
will i get sufficent growth without a casing layer?





Yes, as long as you keep your moisture right its no problem.

Quote:

420shroom said:

how much water?





Search Damion5050 bucket tek. You'll be using a gallon of water although some add a little extra (1/4-1/2 qt).

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420shroom said:
2 cups verm





2 QUARTS verm, not cups

Quote:

420shroom said:

how long after i mix in mono tub before i change from dark to 8/16 light cycle?

how long to start pinning in mono tub?




WIth 6-8 quarts of spawn expect to put into fruiting 12-14 days after mixing it. Pins take 5-7 days after fruiting is introduced


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Re: growing bulk [Re: Bugler Boy]
    #22264437 - 09/20/15 11:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

thanks everyone for your help


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Re: growing bulk [Re: 420shroom]
    #22264449 - 09/20/15 11:49 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:cheers:


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Re: growing bulk [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22264733 - 09/20/15 12:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

just picked up my gypsum


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