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Re: serious question [Re: Turtletotem]
    #22318489 - 10/01/15 10:44 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Men have always been more emotional, This is what makes inspiring leaders who lead other men to recognize their own greatness. the greatest of inventors who shaped our society were probably the most emotional of men. Dont forget the philosophers, the artist, the musicians, poets and writers, the physicians, the blacksmiths, the warriors, the explorers, etc. Virtually all male pursuits deal with a great amount of emotion, because men have a much greater passion to shape and form our universe then women ever did. Women never sent rockets into outer space.

What is the problem now-a-days? Some say feminists, and will point to the growing trend of single mothers, and the current dating trends that have blown up in womens favor, and the emasulation of men which lead to "beta" "boys", men removing themselves from society, and a still largely unnoticed trend in the amount of men killing themselves off this planet.

Other men will point to gameness, and competition anxiety, which men are no longer equipped to deal with rationally because so many other men have lost repect for one another, will blacknight and whitenight each other, and worse  beat and kill each other over a chance to get with women. These are because of that same society which has produced nil role models, and the shaming of masculinity, men dont know fuck all but will do anything for a slice of the pie.

My thought is the internet really exposed the hatred humanity has for the common male and common female. Womens psychology has been figured out, and they are found to be lacking. The average woman has no capacity for anything other than herself, the world revolves around her, she cares nothing for the opinions of any man, despite the fact that her natural provisioning and protection literally depends on a strong man, what a catch 22.

And men, if you are not a walking dildo (read player cad), if you are struggling in anyway, especially financially, in a shitty economy, or perhaps you are just an average joe. Your virtually fucked. You are a loser, at least to society, and to women. And who can blame them, you have after all, no worth.

Essentially little boys are exposed to the harsh realities of the game we play at an age where they are not mentally equipped to deal with it(i say little boys because i doubt women go looking for answers when society tells them theyre great and are deserving of the world), and they cant turn to their parents, the masses of individuals who are self centered and were never themselves properly guided into raising and providing mental stimuli that a child is more capable of understanding then their own festered minds. They grow up to be idiot bastards and entitled bitches, and further disintegrate the collective consciousness with hatred and biterness. THEY HAVE NOWHERE TO TURN, EMOTIONS ARE BOUND TO POUR OUT

Nobodies happy, society tells girls their worthy because they have a vagina , and tell little boys they can be rockstars and actors and heroes. one day we wake up to the fact that none of that is real, and then people settle, they cash in their chips when its too late and get stuck in unhappy relationship, or pump out kids when they cant even raise them properly.

Man has nowhere to turn and so he hides away, then woman cant find man.


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Re: serious question [Re: LackToast]
    #22318683 - 10/01/15 11:26 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Women are raised now being told that they deserve just as much success as men, but for a long time they skipped out on telling them they would have to work hard as well. Men are raised being told that emotions are fine, but no one thought to also tell them that whining is not an emotion: it's a tactic, and it's pathetic.

I'm firm believer in nurture over nature. These quirks we're seeing in the attitudes of both sexes are a product of their parentage. I'm starting to see more and more kids that act much more adult than many of the individuals of my generation, and I suspect it's because rather than doing the bare minimum of parenting, adults now are starting to look around and go, "Oh wow, these kids are shit." And so we review the reasons we all turned into entitled cunts and try to change that for the next generation. The problem is that many of the traits that make you successful as an adult also make you a bad parent that doesn't know how to pass those traits on to their kids. Some of the best parents I know in this generation aren't particularly successful in the traditional sense. They're hard workers who adjust their sense of success appropriately to their field and the things that they actually need in life. Practicality, accountability, and sensibility are three of the most important traits they can pass on to their kids, and successful parents model those traits daily.


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Re: serious question [Re: r.lutece]
    #22318821 - 10/01/15 11:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I like you sprinkles. I agree that men are really sensitive. I didn't think it was that way so much.


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Re: serious question [Re: vandago]
    #22319343 - 10/01/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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vandago said:
You should have been alive in the 50's?  Where you were kept in a kitchen in an apron and were pretty much property?  Where rape wasn't rape unless there was a black eye, and even then you probably had it coming?  You wish you were around for the complete chaotic mess a mans world created? 

No you are part of the feminist culture where everyone has equal rights not, where you are expected to pull your own weight, and guys are allowed to show emotions.  Cowboys are long and gone, and right fully so.

How dare a man confide in a woman he trusts.




I'm not on this forum that much, but are you a troll? Serious Question.


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Re: serious question [Re: philopian_tube]
    #22319350 - 10/01/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

This thread has now officially lost it's mojo... I blame new age man..


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Re: serious question [Re: sprinkles]
    #22319390 - 10/01/15 02:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Man sprinkles for once you're right


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Re: serious question [Re: Severo Blizzard]
    #22321767 - 10/01/15 11:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

it starts with family..  Today kids have no role models.  The young males who have fathers, a lot of times do not respect them. 

Women (especially teenage females) have self esteem issues.  Girls who dont have fathers look for a males love anywhere they can get it.  Or they'll have a baby. 

Women seem to need something to depend them, in order to feel they are loved.  So a woman who is middle age. often times if she doesnt have a husband she'll have dogs.  Ugh.


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Re: serious question [Re: sprinkles]
    #22322040 - 10/02/15 02:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The 'Eve' complex..


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Re: serious question [Re: sprinkles]
    #22322227 - 10/02/15 05:49 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Spunkle, you're bitching about the same shit older generations have bitched about for millennia.  As that dirty hippie Bob Dylan said, "Your old road is rapidly aging.  Please get out of the new one if you can't lend a hand, for the times, they are a-changin'."

In other words, :dealwithit:


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Re: serious question [Re: sun_spots]
    #22323671 - 10/02/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Idk LackToast... I agree with you to a certain extent but some of what you are saying is just misogyny. You're definitely putting blame on women in the same fashion that sprinkles is putting the blame on men.

I will say that I completely agree with you about the whole "you have to be successful or a walking dildo" thing. Ive actually though on many occasions that I wish I was more successful mostly because I want to attract more women. Its completely bullshit that women are allowed to have equal rights in society (if not in the job market) but still expect men to be breadwinners. When I talk to a woman the only reason Id ask what she does is because it makes good conversation (and because most people love to talk about themselves). Unless shes a cop or serially unemployed I really couldn't care less what she does, but I constantly feel judged for having a regular joe job.


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Re: serious question [Re: LackToast]
    #22323701 - 10/02/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

LackToast said:
Men have always been more emotional, This is what makes inspiring leaders who lead other men to recognize their own greatness. the greatest of inventors who shaped our society were probably the most emotional of men. Dont forget the philosophers, the artist, the musicians, poets and writers, the physicians, the blacksmiths, the warriors, the explorers, etc. Virtually all male pursuits deal with a great amount of emotion, because men have a much greater passion to shape and form our universe then women ever did. Women never sent rockets into outer space.

What is the problem now-a-days? Some say feminists, and will point to the growing trend of single mothers, and the current dating trends that have blown up in womens favor, and the emasulation of men which lead to "beta" "boys", men removing themselves from society, and a still largely unnoticed trend in the amount of men killing themselves off this planet.

Other men will point to gameness, and competition anxiety, which men are no longer equipped to deal with rationally because so many other men have lost repect for one another, will blacknight and whitenight each other, and worse  beat and kill each other over a chance to get with women. These are because of that same society which has produced nil role models, and the shaming of masculinity, men dont know fuck all but will do anything for a slice of the pie.

My thought is the internet really exposed the hatred humanity has for the common male and common female. Womens psychology has been figured out, and they are found to be lacking. The average woman has no capacity for anything other than herself, the world revolves around her, she cares nothing for the opinions of any man, despite the fact that her natural provisioning and protection literally depends on a strong man, what a catch 22.

And men, if you are not a walking dildo (read player cad), if you are struggling in anyway, especially financially, in a shitty economy, or perhaps you are just an average joe. Your virtually fucked. You are a loser, at least to society, and to women. And who can blame them, you have after all, no worth.

Essentially little boys are exposed to the harsh realities of the game we play at an age where they are not mentally equipped to deal with it(i say little boys because i doubt women go looking for answers when society tells them theyre great and are deserving of the world), and they cant turn to their parents, the masses of individuals who are self centered and were never themselves properly guided into raising and providing mental stimuli that a child is more capable of understanding then their own festered minds. They grow up to be idiot bastards and entitled bitches, and further disintegrate the collective consciousness with hatred and biterness. THEY HAVE NOWHERE TO TURN, EMOTIONS ARE BOUND TO POUR OUT

Nobodies happy, society tells girls their worthy because they have a vagina , and tell little boys they can be rockstars and actors and heroes. one day we wake up to the fact that none of that is real, and then people settle, they cash in their chips when its too late and get stuck in unhappy relationship, or pump out kids when they cant even raise them properly.

Man has nowhere to turn and so he hides away, then woman cant find man.




you obviously don't understand history lol, enjoy your delusions in that bubble of yours :smile:

and about that comment "Women never sent rockets into outer space"

"Margaret Heafield Hamilton (born August 17, 1936) is a computer scientist, systems engineer, and business owner. She was Director of the Software Engineering Division of the MIT Instrumentation Laboratory, which developed on-board flight software for the Apollo space program."

gtfo dude :thumbdown:


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Re: serious question [Re: sprinkles]
    #22323854 - 10/02/15 01:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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sprinkles said:
Women (especially teenage females) have self esteem issues.  Girls who dont have fathers look for a males love anywhere they can get it.  Or they'll have a baby.




I feel these ones also have lots of male friends.



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Re: serious question [Re: Cosmic_Flame]
    #22323908 - 10/02/15 02:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Cosmic_Flame said:

you obviously don't understand history lol, enjoy your delusions in that bubble of yours :smile:

and about that comment "Women never sent rockets into outer space"

"Margaret Heafield Hamilton (born August 17, 1936) is a computer scientist, systems engineer, and business owner. She was Director of the Software Engineering Division of the MIT Instrumentation Laboratory, which developed on-board flight software for the Apollo space program."

gtfo dude :thumbdown:



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Re: serious question [Re: bloodsheen]
    #22324038 - 10/02/15 02:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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bloodsheen said:
Idk LackToast... I agree with you to a certain extent but some of what you are saying is just misogyny. You're definitely putting blame on women in the same fashion that sprinkles is putting the blame on men.

I will say that I completely agree with you about the whole "you have to be successful or a walking dildo" thing. Ive actually though on many occasions that I wish I was more successful mostly because I want to attract more women. Its completely bullshit that women are allowed to have equal rights in society (if not in the job market) but still expect men to be breadwinners. When I talk to a woman the only reason Id ask what she does is because it makes good conversation (and because most people love to talk about themselves). Unless shes a cop or serially unemployed I really couldn't care less what she does, but I constantly feel judged for having a regular joe job.




you could call me a misogynist, as i dont care much for women, take what you will of my opinions, its nothing more anyways.


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Re: serious question [Re: Cosmic_Flame]
    #22324192 - 10/02/15 03:01 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Cosmic_Flame said:
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LackToast said:
blah blah blah




you obviously don't understand history lol, enjoy your delusions in that bubble of yours :smile:

and about that comment "Women never sent rockets into outer space"

"Margaret Heafield Hamilton (born August 17, 1936) is a computer scientist, systems engineer, and business owner. She was Director of the Software Engineering Division of the MIT Instrumentation Laboratory, which developed on-board flight software for the Apollo space program."

gtfo dude :thumbdown:




Am i delusional solely for having an opinion different from yours?

can you explain which part of history im not getting? Considering i was dealing with social and gender issues. Im not sure i brought up any history, unless you mean to say im wrong that men never were leaders and explorers?


And about Miss Hamilton, actually i have been made aware of this a few times now, ill be honest i never cared to look up if they were right, nor did i care if they were, i will however admit i was wrong. Its outside and missing of the original intent i was making but, you cant please everyone, thats what i always say.


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Re: serious question [Re: philopian_tube]
    #22328079 - 10/03/15 12:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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philopian_tube said:
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sprinkles said:
Women (especially teenage females) have self esteem issues.  Girls who dont have fathers look for a males love anywhere they can get it.  Or they'll have a baby.




I feel these ones also have lots of male friends.






As a girl who grew up without a primary father figure, can confirm. I have mostly male friends. They're mostly gay theatre guys, though, does that make a difference?


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Re: serious question [Re: r.lutece]
    #22330246 - 10/03/15 08:54 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Depends on how flamboyant they are. From an outsider's perspective it might not seem that way and could chase away potential prospects, if that's your concern.

For me personally, I look at it as a red flag. I've known many girls like this, and their reasoning was because "all girls are bitches and we don't get along", which kind of says something about her character.


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Re: serious question [Re: sprinkles]
    #22330317 - 10/03/15 09:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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why are men so emotional now? I swear to god they are so much more emotionally jacked up than women.  They feel slighted over the dumbest shit.  They get upset over imaginary stuff, it seems. Like something pops into their head out of thin air...or maybe something reminds them of something else that was unpleasant at some point.  I dont know, but they are just weak and unstable.  seems the world is turning upside down.

i should have been alive in the 50's when men were men and not ... whatever the hell they are now.  they're so defective. I can't stand it. 


LOL jesus christ I'd rather be alone the rest of my life than deal with this generation of emo fucktards.  seriously.



Shut your lame ass up. Maturity relates to age for most but not all. Grow up and this will no longer be a worry.

I'm probably younger than you too, just to spray my unstable jizz all on your parade.


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Re: serious question [Re: philopian_tube]
    #22330553 - 10/03/15 10:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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philopian_tube said:
Depends on how flamboyant they are. From an outsider's perspective it might not seem that way and could chase away potential prospects, if that's your concern.

For me personally, I look at it as a red flag. I've known many girls like this, and their reasoning was because "all girls are bitches and we don't get along", which kind of says something about her character.




Having heard it so often, I tend to ask the same question. After all, who's the common denominator?

I think I get along with guys better than girls for the most part, not because all girls are bitches, but I typically don't have a lot to chat about with them. I was raised primarily by my grandmother, a rural Kansan farmer who grew up in the Dust Bowl. Needless to say, she was less than concerned with cosmetics and hair, and that rubbed off on me a bit. I had a lot more fun playing with mud and rocks than dolls, and as it turns out, there was not a wealth of girls who wanted to play in the mud with me, which is a bummer because it was a blast.


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Re: serious question [Re: r.lutece]
    #22330696 - 10/03/15 10:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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r.lutece said:
Quote:

philopian_tube said:
Depends on how flamboyant they are. From an outsider's perspective it might not seem that way and could chase away potential prospects, if that's your concern.

For me personally, I look at it as a red flag. I've known many girls like this, and their reasoning was because "all girls are bitches and we don't get along", which kind of says something about her character.




Having heard it so often, I tend to ask the same question. After all, who's the common denominator?

I think I get along with guys better than girls for the most part, not because all girls are bitches, but I typically don't have a lot to chat about with them. I was raised primarily by my grandmother, a rural Kansan farmer who grew up in the Dust Bowl. Needless to say, she was less than concerned with cosmetics and hair, and that rubbed off on me a bit. I had a lot more fun playing with mud and rocks than dolls, and as it turns out, there was not a wealth of girls who wanted to play in the mud with me, which is a bummer because it was a blast.




The same could be said for myself. I grew up with a single mother, but despite her best parenting efforts, it wasn't healthy for me. I pretty much had to reprogram my behaviors and learn on my own how to do things that fathers should've taught their sons growing up.

It may have been fun playing in the mud, but understand that it is not innate behavior for a young girl. If you had grown up with parents who had a healthy polarity, you would have most likely turned out differently. Masculine attracts Feminine, regardless of gender, and you yourself said that you have many gay male friends.

It's never too late to change yourself though, if you want to that is.


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