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First Mushroom Grow PF tek (pics to come)
#22261711 - 09/19/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I inoculated 6 pint jars with Psilocybe Cubensis (bang phang ka strain) using the BRF pf tek method, 21 days ago. 3 of the 6 jars were fully colonized one week ago, I let them sit until today and they are currently being dunked. The other 3 have yet to colonize fully, there is about a nickel sized piece of substrate left on each of them, so I'm still waiting on those. I will upload pics later tonight. I Completed my fruiting chamber today, and I am very excited to fruit mushrooms for my first time ever!!!!!! I will remove the 3 cakes from the dunk at 12pm tomorrow and roll them in vermiculite. Does anyone know how much to yield off each cake if the climate is optimal?
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Re: First Mushroom Grow PF tek (pics to come) [Re: uncle_sketch]
#22261774 - 09/19/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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hard to say on yield, varies widely with multi spore, maybe a dry zip more or less. Good luck and welcome to the Shroomery
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Re: First Mushroom Grow PF tek (pics to come) [Re: NDStepp84]
#22261848 - 09/19/15 08:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Heres some pics of cakes, the first set is the 3 that had yet to fully colonize (one turned out to finish up today!! gonna start the week timer), the second set is the fully colonized jars that are being dunked in mason jars (did it to save space), and the last photos are my fruiting chamber, I placed a fan behind the chamber to help with airflow, I will fill the chamber with 5 inches of perlite tomorrow, prior to placing the dunk and rolled cakes inside.
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Re: First Mushroom Grow PF tek (pics to come) [Re: uncle_sketch]
#22261904 - 09/19/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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You need way more holes in that chamber 1/4 inch holes 2 inches apart in a grid pattern on ALL 6 sides, elevated and at least a foot away from a wall. The fan will disrupt the natural air flow of a SGFC, rendering your perlite useless. Read this and follow exactly http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20195542#20195542
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Re: First Mushroom Grow PF tek (pics to come) [Re: NDStepp84]
#22264037 - 09/20/15 10:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Drilling all the holes can be tedious.
You can cut a 2" by 2" square out of cardboard or paper to use as a pilot guide. Simply use a marker and ruler to draw your first set of pilot grid lines onto your container, then use the pilot square. Saves 30 to 60 minutes IME.
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Re: First Mushroom Grow PF tek (pics to come) [Re: franktheplank]
#22269053 - 09/21/15 11:48 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thank you so much for the help! So I took the time to drill more holes, removed the fan and placed the 3 dunk and rolled cakes inside my fruiting chamber on top of 5 inches of moist perlite (separated by aluminum foil). Humidity is at 92% and temperature at 78F. Hoping to see some pins in the next few days!! I was thinking of doing a casing method with the cakes I have yet to fruit, what do you think? Is it worth casing brf cakes?
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Re: First Mushroom Grow PF tek (pics to come) [Re: uncle_sketch]
#22269066 - 09/21/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've done both and in my experience its better to fruit cakes as cakes. With dunking and rolling you get the moisture advantages of casing without the hassle.
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Re: First Mushroom Grow PF tek (pics to come) [Re: Themadhatter106]
#22284265 - 09/24/15 02:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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So the 3 cakes have been in the fruiting chamber for 4 days, I have been misting periodically and fanning 4-5 times a day. I noticed a small amount of mycelium beginning to push out at the base of one of the cakes, (pins maybe?) but after picking up the cakes I realized they seemed rather light, and lacking moisture. any suggestions on how to raise humidity in the fruiting chamber? should i re-dunk the cakes? The perlite/misting method was effective at first, but i noticed a definite drop in humidity the last few days. much love !
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Re: First Mushroom Grow PF tek (pics to come) [Re: uncle_sketch]
#22285225 - 09/24/15 06:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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IME dunking them could be good for them at this point. I would give it another day or two but if nothing starts pinning, I would definitely give it another dunk. Possibly a little shorter of a dunk though.
I have had this happen to some of my cakes before. I would have them in the chamber and all look pretty healthy and going good and yet nothing happens for some reason. The myc looks healthy and all that but no pins or growth. This happened to me a few times and each time I dunked it and had better results following that dunk. Could be just me but it could very well help you.
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Re: First Mushroom Grow PF tek (pics to come) [Re: EntheoGod]
#22285324 - 09/24/15 06:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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just posting so I can keep an eye on this. hope all goes well!
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Re: First Mushroom Grow PF tek (pics to come) [Re: funguy64]
#22285487 - 09/24/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Don't be stressing about humidity in the fruiting chamber too much, just keep it where it matters, on the surface of the sub from misting directly till they glisten, repeat when they are not. Sometimes with multi spore you will have cakes that don't perform so well, nothing you can really do except give the best environment you can. When dunking single cakes I found this to be the easiest way  Fill a container to the top with water sitting in a sink, put the cake in and snap the lid on, good luck bro
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Re: First Mushroom Grow PF tek (pics to come) [Re: NDStepp84]
#22285709 - 09/24/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Is it ok to put them in my large metal pot and put the canning ledge on them to sink them? canning pot I have came with a metal thing to keep jars out of the water, figured id just use that.. sorry for jackn your thread man..
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Re: First Mushroom Grow PF tek (pics to come) [Re: funguy64]
#22285748 - 09/24/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Will work just fine, you can also use a plate, just make sure it doesn't shift and the cakes float up, you want them fully submerged for 24
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Re: First Mushroom Grow PF tek (pics to come) [Re: funguy64]
#22285750 - 09/24/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thats what I do.
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Re: First Mushroom Grow PF tek (pics to come) [Re: NDStepp84]
#22286025 - 09/24/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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cool thanks man!
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Re: First Mushroom Grow PF tek (pics to come) [Re: funguy64]
#22294217 - 09/26/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thank you so much for the help!!
I gave the 3 fruiting cakes an eight hour dunk before placing them back into the chamber, during the dunk I replaced the older perlite with freshly rinsed perlite, (I added about an inch more perlite than I did originally, in hopes to better maintain the humidity of the fruiting chamber). I made sure the fruiting chamber was elevated further, I raised it from around 2 inches to 5 inches. I also purchased a higher end digital thermometer that also displays humidity.
I checked the 3 cakes that were still colonizing in the pint jars and was to pleased to see at least one or two pins on each cake, the biggest baby mushroom is about one inch long. I failed to take photos in my excitement last night, the 3 now pinning cakes, are being dunked and prepared to place in the fruiting chamber. I will post pics when the dunk is complete tonight.
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Re: First Mushroom Grow PF tek (pics to come) [Re: uncle_sketch]
#22294456 - 09/26/15 04:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Good job bro!!! And welcome!!! Good vibes and  Post some pics so we can drool over the fruits of your labor!
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Re: First Mushroom Grow PF tek (pics to come) [Re: Darkhome]
#22295552 - 09/26/15 07:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Here's some pics of the pins I was talking about
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Re: First Mushroom Grow PF tek (pics to come) [Re: uncle_sketch]
#22295671 - 09/26/15 08:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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When they are tall like that it sometimes means you need more FAE...did those pins form while in the jar? (Invitro?)... Make sure you have your SGFC away from the wall so you get good airflow, I saw you dunked, no roll? Or did you take pics before you rolled? Either way !!!CONGRATULATIONS!!! You got fruit bro, that's an accomplishment!!! Keep it up, keep us updated and ask if you need help.
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Re: First Mushroom Grow PF tek (pics to come) [Re: funguy64]
#22295822 - 09/26/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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funguy64 said: Is it ok to put them in my large metal pot and put the canning ledge on them to sink them? canning pot I have came with a metal thing to keep jars out of the water, figured id just use that.. sorry for jackn your thread man..
Ah fuck me why didn't I think of that. It would have to be weighted down, but that would be way easier than what I have been doing, which is using a stock pot with a bowl full of water on top (which I spill all the time because I have to fill the bowl almost completely to weight down the very buoyant cakes).
I even have one of those that would work perfectly. Lol
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Re: First Mushroom Grow PF tek (pics to come) [Re: uncle_sketch]
#22295835 - 09/26/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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YAYYYY!! congrats man! I wish you all the best on everything from here on out, you are going to do great things dude!
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Re: First Mushroom Grow PF tek (pics to come) [Re: Sivarted]
#22295934 - 09/26/15 09:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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funguy64 said: Is it ok to put them in my large metal pot and put the canning ledge on them to sink them? canning pot I have came with a metal thing to keep jars out of the water, figured id just use that.. sorry for jackn your thread man..
Ah fuck me why didn't I think of that. It would have to be weighted down, but that would be way easier than what I have been doing, which is using a stock pot with a bowl full of water on top (which I spill all the time because I have to fill the bowl almost completely to weight down the very buoyant cakes). I even have one of those that would work perfectly. Lol
I bought cheap cylindrical shaped containers with screw on lids, if you put the right amount of water, and are quick you can fully submerge cakes for dunking without spilling much water. I used to wrap them with foil so I could leave them on my counter and no one knew what they were.
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Edited by Darkhome (09/26/15 09:15 PM)
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Re: First Mushroom Grow PF tek (pics to come) [Re: Darkhome]
#22295951 - 09/26/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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funguy64 said: Is it ok to put them in my large metal pot and put the canning ledge on them to sink them? canning pot I have came with a metal thing to keep jars out of the water, figured id just use that.. sorry for jackn your thread man..
Ah fuck me why didn't I think of that. It would have to be weighted down, but that would be way easier than what I have been doing, which is using a stock pot with a bowl full of water on top (which I spill all the time because I have to fill the bowl almost completely to weight down the very buoyant cakes). I even have one of those that would work perfectly. Lol
I bought cheap cylindrical shaped containers with screw on lids, if you put the right amount of water, and are quick you can fully submerge cakes for dunking without spilling much water. I used to wrap them with foil so I could leave them on my counter and no one knew what they were.
Yeah, I started with 17 cakes (18 actually but lost one to the green)
That doesn't really seem practical for that many.
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Re: First Mushroom Grow PF tek (pics to come) [Re: Sivarted]
#22296146 - 09/26/15 09:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes the pins did indeed form in the jars, and I rolled the cakes in vermiculite after they were dunked for twelve hours, I waited about 45 minutes before misting the freshly rolled cake.
Just out of curiosity, does anybody have a preferred grain they like to use for bulk?
Edited by uncle_sketch (09/26/15 10:19 PM)
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Re: First Mushroom Grow PF tek (pics to come) [Re: uncle_sketch]
#22296155 - 09/26/15 09:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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uncle_sketch said: Yes the pins did indeed for I'm the jars, and I rolled the cakes in vermiculite after they were dunked for twelve hours, I waited about 45 minutes before misting the freshly rolled cake.
Just out of curiosity, does anybody have a preferred grain they like to use for bulk?
I meant to say that I dunked the cakes for 24 hours. My bad. I also just realized the functionality of the "edit" button haha. Thanks for all the support, I'll update more tomorrow
Edited by uncle_sketch (09/26/15 10:22 PM)
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Re: First Mushroom Grow PF tek (pics to come) [Re: uncle_sketch]
#22296333 - 09/26/15 10:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've used WBS almost exclusively, it works great and provides a mix instead of one grain, its not too hard to prep when you get the hang of it, but it does get freaking everywhere and I had to buy special $15 strainers. If you go with WBS almost any will work, but stay away from any with corn in it. I recommend Pennington Finch seed or regular Pennington WIld Bird Formula, the finch kind has mostly millet and very few seeds. You don't have to take out sunflower seeds, but I usually do anyway. I hear alot of great things about Whole Oats, that's what I'm about to try next. Whole Oats are cheap, and supposed to be very forgiving. WBS is found everywhere, I get mine at Walmart, Whole Oats, at Feed stores, make sure they are whole (still have the hulls) they are sometimes called "Groats" I think they are used as horse feed.
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Re: First Mushroom Grow PF tek (pics to come) [Re: Darkhome]
#22302739 - 09/28/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thank you!!
So all 6 of my pint sized cakes (no pun intended) are currently in the fruiting chamber. The 3 that were birthed about a week before the others, and had to be re-dunked do to lack of moisture are looking great! I noticed a good amount pins along the base of two of them. The other 3 that were placed inside the fruiting chamber yesterday are looking good as well, they had visible pins at birth, and one of the cakes is growing 2 smaller sized mushrooms. The temperature has been kept around 77F, I've continued periodic misting, and allowed the mycelium to revive at least 6 hours of ambient light per day.
With my left over Bang Phang Ka spores (4cc), I inoculated 8 jars of prepared popcorn substrate around 4 days ago, and was surprised to see mycelium growth this morning, I'll make a separate thread regarding this popcorn casing grow as soon as I have some fully colonized jars
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Re: First Mushroom Grow PF tek (pics to come) [Re: uncle_sketch]
#22320219 - 10/01/15 05:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Great news, each cake is having superb pin development and one cake is almost ready for it's first mushrooms to be harvested. How do I know when a flush is over?
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Re: First Mushroom Grow PF tek (pics to come) [Re: uncle_sketch]
#22324064 - 10/02/15 02:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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you will know when a flush is over when you feel like tossing the cakes. You can probably get 5 flushes but their will be very small amounts of mushrooms coming to fruition. Usually people toss them and start more after the 3rd flush.
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Re: First Mushroom Grow PF tek (pics to come) [Re: uncle_sketch]
#22324378 - 10/02/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Looking good! I think those shrooms have got some growth potential before you pick them, another couple of days perhaps. My cakes took 14-18 days in the sgfc before the cakes really hit their stride with multiple pins, more of an explosion actually
Edited by Shroomspective (10/02/15 03:39 PM)
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