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Is this single Brf cake chamber OK?
#22260939 - 09/19/15 04:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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 Cake has possible contams when birthed so after dunk i decided to isolate it. Will this work? Reminds me of soda bottle Tek so IDK if I need holes in it or not?
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22260954 - 09/19/15 04:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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id put some holes in it. now thats and easter egg i wanna find!!
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: aerow.thefox]
#22260996 - 09/19/15 04:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah definitely drill a bunch of holes in it, the bottom too...and I would fill it up to the separation line with perlite...then trim that foil down...is that cake suspect for contamination, or are you just being creative? Either way I like it...hmm nvm, I don't have the slightest idea how I missed that.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: LocN9ne]
#22261013 - 09/19/15 04:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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 Possibly contaminated. It had that coloring for a while after was pretty much colonized. There's like 3 jars that way of PE.. Theres 6 GT as well but didn't want them to contaminate if it was mold. It smells fine like the others. All I had last minute was huge Easter Egg that holds smaller eggs lol. I thought...hmmm lol. Had to get it out of dunk so had to make it work
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22261021 - 09/19/15 04:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's just bruising... you are golden...I like your nails BTW
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: LocN9ne]
#22262534 - 09/19/15 10:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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 This was him in the jar when worry was setting in. I didn't think bruising was possible in jars. It's weird cuz its only on envy jars. I added holes to my Easter Egg lol. Does it matter if light is on 24/7 or should it be 12/12?
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22262574 - 09/19/15 10:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yea it's best to let the jars just chill on a shelf. Constantly touching them and lifting them can cause bruising. No worries though, you're cake is perfectly fine.
For fruiting you want 12/12 lighting.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: iSmkGrnBud]
#22262996 - 09/20/15 12:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just noticed the SGFC in the background, looks like it may need more holes for fresh air exchange. 1/4" holes 2" apart in a grid patter on all 6 sides, especially the bottom. Elevated and at least a foot from any wall. Read this and make sure it is built to spec. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20195542#20195542 Also hygrometers are useless in a fruiting chamber, build fruiting chamber to spec and mist cakes till they glisten as needed. Quote:
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You should always aim for too much fae and need to compensate with misting over not enough fae/too much humidity.
Keep the surface glistening/damp with no pooling water. Mist when it isn't glistening anymore. Sometimes you might only need to mist twice a day. Sometimes 4 times a day. All you need is the eyes to tell it's in need of a misting . Nothing too fancy here 
Also cool Easter egg, looking forward to seeing some mushrooms in it
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: NDStepp84]
#22263026 - 09/20/15 12:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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What do you have the rest of the cakes in, SGFC? Really you don't need to isolate that cake, it looks tip top to me. Nice job.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: mushpunx]
#22263041 - 09/20/15 12:41 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah it looks fine, you could put it with the others, but for some reason I want to see mushrooms growing in an Easter egg
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: NDStepp84]
#22263044 - 09/20/15 12:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yea haha I like weird novelty grows too
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: mushpunx]
#22263069 - 09/20/15 12:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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why not
looks like there is enough room for air vs. volume of fungi
i'm not sure about holes just because it might dry it out rather quicky
you'll want to fan it off every day and mist though (or spray the sides of the chamber with a spray bottle)
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: micro]
#22263100 - 09/20/15 01:03 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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In my opinion I would put holes in it. FAE over humidity all day, and fanning is not FAE. Check out Mads open air fruiting experiment http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22105120 You could keep surface humidity up and prevent drying by misting. Misting the sides would do little to nothing, plus it has the perlite. People have fruited cakes on the table as a center piece for shits and giggles.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: mushpunx]
#22263191 - 09/20/15 01:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ill leave it in the egg for shits and giggles baha. Yea I added alot more holes earlier today. I had looked at an old chamber Tek that said 2 or 3 in apart. Also made another one today with 2in grid. My humidity has been 97-99% temp like 73-75. Still trying to get in the swing of how much misting at a time, how many times a day for misting 3 or like 6? I am determined to achieve atleast enough for a great first experience. Thats all I'm trying to accomplish. If I fail this I will be pretty flippin bummed. I sure do love all the feedback you all have offered. I was having my doubts about anyone helping me out or "coaching" me through it with my off the wall questions,random thoughts, and charming conversation skills lol. If anyone would like to volunteer to be my awesome mentor... That would be very dude like just send a pm!
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22263201 - 09/20/15 01:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wow.. We both said shits and giggles. You must have posted while I was typing a novel lol.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22263688 - 09/20/15 07:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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You are doing awesome doll. You got the hard part over with, getting fully colonized contamination free cakes. Once you do that it's smooth sailing IMO, once fully colonized the mycelium is strong and resistant to contams. And on misting, the times a day may vary, some days you might just need to mist twice, somedays twice that. Just watch your cakes and mist untill glistening without leaving pooling water and mist again when no longer glistening. Fan out the chamber after to help kick start the evaporation process. Don't worry about your humidity, it will fluctuate and that is desired. A lot of cool people on here and minds greater than my own that want to help and see you succeed. It's a lot to take in, but you are kicking ass your first time, you should feel good about that. Always here to help, rock on sister!
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22263701 - 09/20/15 07:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Imthepoop said:
 Cake has possible contams when birthed so after dunk i decided to isolate it. Will this work? Reminds me of soda bottle Tek so IDK if I need holes in it or not?
Putting a suspected cake in a different container in the same room is most definitely not isolating it. If you're worried to the point that you think it should be isolated outside is the best place for it
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Bugler Boy]
#22264549 - 09/20/15 12:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Side note: When you do mist, do it from above and let the mist fall down onto the cakes.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: LocN9ne]
#22267327 - 09/20/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was misting from tops but sides seemed dry. I'll be so ecstatic when I see a pin showing I've done something right and not ruined em. As soon as I get done doing my sons school project I'm going to put them in a slightly smaller chamber that has more holes and just better constructed. What's the guesstimated time frame from birth to pins?
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22267730 - 09/21/15 12:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I hit my cakes good from all angles, but I don't blast them so hard I knock the verm off the cakes. Pinning could be any time with multi spore, it's hard to say. But once they begin to pin you can almost watch them grow, just a few days to maturity.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: NDStepp84]
#22286507 - 09/24/15 10:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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 So this is my progress so far. Had my first official PIN-GASAM today. Was so exciting
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22286553 - 09/24/15 11:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22286608 - 09/24/15 11:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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 So this is my progress so far. Had my first official PIN-GASAM today. Was so exciting
Nice!!! Keep rocking it!
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Darkhome]
#22286848 - 09/25/15 01:32 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thank you
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22287217 - 09/25/15 06:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: iSmkGrnBud]
#22289645 - 09/25/15 06:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I woke up this morning with still 1 pin...so I gave em water, air,and sang to them..went back out cple hours later, now I have several pinning 
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22289800 - 09/25/15 07:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: NDStepp84]
#22290613 - 09/25/15 10:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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should change your name to TheMushroomSiren. lol
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: aerow.thefox]
#22290822 - 09/25/15 10:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lol why? Am I to loud or talk to much lol? I wish I could change my name. I didn't realize we were stuck with it unless we pay to change it lol
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22291313 - 09/26/15 12:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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because you sang to them and they came silly. luring them to their mummified death. lol mythological kind of siren. just realized the confusion.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22291331 - 09/26/15 12:41 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Imthepoop said: Lol why? Am I to loud or talk to much lol?
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: LocN9ne]
#22291347 - 09/26/15 12:45 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lol..im ready to sing all day if it'll make em come faster lol.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22292282 - 09/26/15 08:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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What are those cakes looking like now??
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22292388 - 09/26/15 09:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Imthepoop said: Lol..im ready to sing all day if it'll make em come faster lol.
We already had that thread last week, just take our word for it and don't. Also your phrasing there was a little dirty.
You just said you were looking to move on from PF cakes, so.... forgive the question, but why are you focused on a chamber for a single cake?
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Inocuole]
#22294739 - 09/26/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22294757 - 09/26/15 05:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm not really focused on one anymore. I thought it was contaminated and it wasn't i later realized. It's now in chamber with the others.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22294763 - 09/26/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Looks sexy to me!
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Darkhome]
#22294778 - 09/26/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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They seem to be pinning really slow and not many at a time. In the 2nd picture, that pin came first a cple days ago.. Hasn't grown a whole lot since other than the other small one that came out with it. Idk what the aborts will really look like and how soon you can tell which are aborts.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22294826 - 09/26/15 05:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Aborts heads usually turn black, but if you are unsure just wait. It won't hurt anything... Try misting til glistening with moisture then fanning right after...it seems like this was my major pinning trigger. Is your light 6500k 12hrs on/ 12hrs off?
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Darkhome]
#22295729 - 09/26/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes sir all of the above. Is it possible ti water to much?
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22295751 - 09/26/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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sure is. if you dunk and roll your cakes, you don't have to mist until you see pins., the dunk hydrates enough to support the pinset.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22295761 - 09/26/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's possible, but I doubt it, they don't look waterlogged to me. You are doing all the right things, I think now it's just a matter of patience. But it's nice to have someone ease your mind. If you have any questions ask anytime, that's why we are all here. And when you get ready to step up to bulk (if that's your next step) ...check this out...
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19792837
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Darkhome]
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I thought even with dunk and roll u had to mist several times a day atleast til u saw pins. So then if I do mist i dnt have to mist much because they already hydrated enough?
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop] 1
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Your not really hydrating pf cakes when you mist so much as keeping surface evaporation happening...the water inside from the dunk is what actually hydrates the cakes
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22296037 - 09/26/15 09:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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if they get dry dry mist them but I personally think most people over mist rather than under mist. you'll really just have to get a feel for it with practice but back when I did cakes it was wisconsin winter my place was 65F on average and it was quite dry. with a SGFC they'll pin even if you go on vacation for a few days after birthing cakes. I find the moisture from the dunk will support the initial pinset then you can maintain the moisture by misting or better yet just bottom water them a couple times a week by putting them in a saucer of water for a few hours. as long as the cakes are not dry dry on the surface you're good to go. shrooms are some 90% water so after the pins develop you'll need to hydrate them some way
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22296046 - 09/26/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Honestly, this might not be an easy answer, but the truth is this: You mist when it's dry and fan after to promote pinning. The dunk and roll provides a tiny casing layer that keeps the humidity up at the surfaces of your cakes. IME I still had to mist...I think it really depends on where you live and the ambient RH and temperature. But in conclusion, mist until cake glistens, but no pooling water, fan after, I then would spray a few squirts from my fine mist bottle in the air and shut your SGFC. Repeat at least a few times a day, your experience may be more or less. If it looks dry or starts to blue, mist more, if you see alot of "fuzzy feet" fan more. You will find a balance that works for you. Be careful, I almost loved mine to death. If you get worried, just post pics and everyone will help.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Darkhome]
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fanning doesn't promote pinning, you don't have to fan at all. it's extremely over emphasized. the sole purpose of fanning is to relive the mist droplets from the air after you mist your cakes so the SGFC goes back to normal function faster. you can entirely skip the 2 second fan with the lid (which most noobs exaggerate to 20+ seconds for some reason) and everything will be just fine.
the only RH that matters is the RH within a few millimeters from the surface of the cake. which is provided by the roll in verm. the RH in the chamber can be lower than 50% regularly and that's a-ok
in all honesty though you can do everything a little bit wrong and they'll grow just fine. that's why there's so much shit advice. like thinking a misty fog in your FC is a good thing. just because they grew for someone who fanned relentlessly doesn't mean the fanning is the winning strategy. cubes are the weeds of mushrooms they will do everything to pin and grow.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: bodhisatta]
#22296092 - 09/26/15 09:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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My bad.. I guess I meant that I fanned to trigger evaporation, which in turn helps trigger pinning... Just trying to help, but I don't always articulate things well...I'm just speaking from my own experience, but Bodhisatta knows what he is talking about... I would listen to him above me anyway.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Darkhome]
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: bodhisatta]
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It's OK bro... I'm more than a little sideways myself... I don't mind being corrected ...it makes me better... I know stuff, its just hard for me to communicate exactly what I mean...lol
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Darkhome]
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I wondered if I really needed to fan and mist... Well mist i can understand but fanning seems a little weird cuz idk how a cple seconds of fanning can't possibly be that much different than just taking the lid off while u mist... Thats letting the air exchange happen anyway. The room I grow in is small about 75 degrees humidity between 60-70. The room is usually pretty dry so I have a cool mist running 24/7. Everytime I mist i always think about them growing in their natural habitat and do they get sprinkled on then all of a sudden a light gust of wind comes through to start evaporation? They aren't pampered in the wild yet I understand we are trying to recreate the wild with the chamber. I'd be really curious to see if with just dunk abd roll 6500k light a sgfc made per Tek without misting and fanning at all or maybe misting once a week,what would happen. Would they still grow but at a slower rate? Do I really need to be misting and fanning them 3-4xs a day since I dunked and rolled them? You're definitely correct about all the bad or outdated info on here and everywhere else. The info i did find on here was very helpful to get me where I am today, but alot of hassles could have been avoided like incubators and colonizing in complete darkness at 83 degrees then consolidate in 70degrees indirect light or in a cabinet etc. It's a pain trying to find rooms in your house to accommodate these temps. Also if your comfortable then the mushies are.. Well I hate humidity and I like my house cold.. Thats comfortable to me. Everyone differs obviously. Just needs to be like point blank while jars are colonizing keep them at X temp min X temp max. Let them colonize until you see pinning,or birth a week or 2 weeks after 100% colonization before pinning starts(again a huge area of mixed info)then birth,rinse,dunk 24hrs,rinse again or don't idk, sterilize verm in oven before rolling or don't roll at all,if u do roll, after u put in sgfc wait an hour before u mist so verm don't fall off then mist and fan 4-6 times a day til pinning if they didn't pin in jars. Also if fae is what triggers pinning then how do they pin in the jars? We don't fan the jars. Yea they are moist from the 1st stage,and they stay moist even a month or more down the road atleast the outside of substrate while in jars. I used jars with filter on one side and self healing injection site. So one wld think after dunk and roll they wld be nice and hydrated,mist them if they indeed need to be moist on the outside as well put the lid on and let em go. If it's true that as long as sgfc is built to Tek specs then the holes wld be doing all work with fae and humidity. I haven't even begun the questions on fruiting lol. When the "best" time to harvest is. I've read smaller the better *cough* lol, also that the aborts are edible and very potent.. So if your not really looking for how much weight you can get out of grows but the best time to harvest when they are in the prime stage of potency or no matter how big or small they are it's all the same? Sorry I was rambling. Lol. Im just inquisitive.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22298042 - 09/27/15 11:28 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Walls of text can have that effect yes. Got a TL:DR/cliffnotes version of the important questions?
The "best" time to harvest is when you're pulling the most actives out of your substrate for the given work put in, and that remains to be "right before the veil breaks".
Chances are based on the unformatted nature of your paragraph there, you were probably overthinking things to begin with. That happens.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22298205 - 09/27/15 11:57 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Imthepoop said: 1. i always think about them growing in their natural habitat and do they get sprinkled on then all of a sudden a light gust of wind comes through to start evaporation? They aren't pampered in the wild yet I understand we are trying to recreate the wild with the chamber.
2. I'd be really curious to see if with just dunk abd roll 6500k light a sgfc made per Tek without misting and fanning at all or maybe misting once a week,what would happen. Would they still grow but at a slower rate? Do I really need to be misting and fanning them 3-4xs a day since I dunked and rolled them?
3. You're definitely correct about all the bad or outdated info on here and everywhere else.
4. Let them colonize until you see pinning,or birth a week or 2 weeks after 100% colonization before pinning starts(again a huge area of mixed info)then birth,rinse,dunk 24hrs,rinse again or don't idk, sterilize verm in oven before rolling or don't roll at all,if u do roll, after u put in sgfc wait an hour before u mist so verm don't fall off then mist and fan 4-6 times a day til pinning if they didn't pin in jars.
5. Also if fae is what triggers pinning then how do they pin in the jars? So one wld think after dunk and roll they wld be nice and hydrated,mist them if they indeed need to be moist on the outside as well put the lid on and let em go.
6. If it's true that as long as sgfc is built to Tek specs then the holes wld be doing all work with fae and humidity.
7. I haven't even begun the questions on fruiting lol. When the "best" time to harvest is. I've read smaller the better *cough* lol, also that the aborts are edible and very potent.. So if your not really looking for how much weight you can get out of grows but the best time to harvest when they are in the prime stage of potency or no matter how big or small they are it's all the same? Sorry I was rambling. Lol. Im just inquisitive.
1. technically we are not recreating the wild. we are recreating the optimum environment for them to flourish. we provide better enviro.
2. with a properly built sgfc your wouldnt need to fan really but its best to contnue mistingvery lightly. and fanning is still an encouraged action
3. out dated for sure. i was gone a couple years and i come back and half the shit i thought i knew is wrong. mycology is still a very young, unperfected, under deeloped field of science. so we are constantly discovering new methods and techniques. but thats what makes it so exciting. lots of potential.
4-5 always let your cakes consolidate for a week. one of the few reasons they pin in jars is that they have a good microclimate(high humidity and CO2) but a major pinning trigger besides FAE is full colonization of the substrate material. my assumption is the mycelium reaches full colonization and says to itself (uh oh! i dont have anymore food and i cant reach out and find any.) so instead of reaching with mycelial arms, it pops mushrooms puts spores on the wind, which find the food the locationally static mycelium cant.
6. for the most part yes. but we mist so as to replenish water lost in evaporation and mushroom production. since water is what they're 90% made of we need to give them all they can. and misting provides surface water to evaporate that would otherwise come from INSIDE the mycelium/substrate itself. thus ensuring more water for mushies.
7. the best time to haarvest(which is still up to personal preferance and debate), is right as the veil of the mushrooms starts to break. at that point(suppoedly) production of active compounds begins to slow(still a debated subject) and mostly water weight is justt being added. whichwill be lost wen drying and wont add to the dry weight so thats water that could have fed more enderdeveloped mushrooms. also people dont want spores all over their shit. lol
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: aerow.thefox]
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we must remember we use fruiting chambers for our benefit not the mushrooms:)
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: aerow.thefox]
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Lol probably... It was like 2am..possibly stoned...
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: bodhisatta]
#22298414 - 09/27/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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This was awesome thank you you rock!
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22311768 - 09/30/15 12:02 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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So my pins are coming in pretty good. Some like clustered. How much water is enough? When I think "mist" it's maybe 5 trigger pulls on a mist setting. Is that enough a few times a day? All 5 GT and pinning great. Still nothing from PE which is frustrating. I noticed he dries up before the others also, maybe not dries per say but absorbs it quicker or it evaporates quicker IDK. He was birthed same time others were. He is slowly getting the white coating before they pin, or atleast my other ones did. But my goodness slow as molasses lol. Ive read also like 5 days after pinning you should have fruits to harvest? Well I dnt think that'll be the case for me so what am I doing wrong? The pink and coming in fast but the growth from there seems to slow.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Mad Season]
#22312002 - 09/30/15 01:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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That was awesome ty!
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22312200 - 09/30/15 02:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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 I must admit im getting frustrated. This weird looking guy is like a week old. By all the pics I've seen by this time he shld be huge. He had one growing directly below him that pinned first. Started growing downward and quit basically and this guy came out like day after started growing,got bigger and has pretty much quit and IDK just looks wrong. I've fucked up somewhere. My guess is cuz I took hydrometer out of chamber cuz I was told I didn't need it in there. I was monitoring it daily before. So I took it out and set is outside of chamber. My room has been staying like 70% humidity. Judging my lack if fruits I've clearly fucked it up. So I put the humidity gauge back in, jacked up the temp in the room, put cool mist on low. I've noticed also the water I use to mist has been leaving a thin White coat on chamber walls. Should I not be using tap water? I put fresh cold water in bottle this eve and had my first experience with bruising. Idk.. I'm just bleh at this point. Makes me sad cuz I've been trying so hard.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22312218 - 09/30/15 02:31 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think it's cute people think increasing humidity is the solution. Tbh 70% humidity is perfect. The only issue you need to worry about is to keep them glistening. Which that cake isn't. It's dry. It's been dry for awhile because it's bruised quite heavily. Mist that bitch keep it glistening.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Mad Season]
#22312984 - 09/30/15 08:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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That cake didnt bruise til I misted it last night. I think I misted to hard and close. Plus I picked it up. It's definitely not dry. I spray several times a day.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22313253 - 09/30/15 10:13 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah you probably hit it a little too hard with that sprayer...as previously stated that cake in that picture is D-R-Y...a trick you can use (I used to, when I started with cakes) is to take a picture of the cake with the flash on...you should see little bb's of moisture lit up all over them fuckers... mist from above and let it rain down...your doing good don't start getting impatient now...dang
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: LocN9ne]
#22313268 - 09/30/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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it Isn't about the feel of it. I look at it and the surface is dry. It's supposed to be glistening CONSTANTLY. I don't see no crystal glistles. It needs to be misted . Mist again when the crystal glistles stop
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Mad Season]
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Well after like an hour or 2 they aren't glistening. So they have to be sprayed that frequently lol. How do ppl work and do this lol. I'm not working at the moment so I took on the challenge but I have active sport players that require me to be gone few hrs at a time. Guess I'll just keep misting much as possible. I thought I was misting to much. I had read only mist few times a day.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22313930 - 09/30/15 12:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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you shouldn't have to mist more than 2-3 times a day for most people. if they go for 8 hours or 14 hours while you're not home that's fine
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: bodhisatta]
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Darkhome]
#22313967 - 09/30/15 12:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Darkhome said: Honestly, this might not be an easy answer, but the truth is this: You mist when it's dry and fan after to promote pinning.
Why wait until it is visibly dry o.O?
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: micro]
#22313985 - 09/30/15 12:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Because evaporation needs to actually occur. If the surface remains moist without cycling it won't be able to breathe as well and welcomes a host of other problems.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Inocuole]
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You need about 3 more inches of perlite in that bad boy...
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: LocN9ne]
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: micro]
#22314086 - 09/30/15 01:19 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Because I wld think if anyone has a life and leaves for a few hours they will return to them being dry. If someone is home all day and night then sure mist em every 2 hrs. Need one of those misting setups grocery stores have lol.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22314111 - 09/30/15 01:26 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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 It looks lower in some places cuz I moved it around to make sure none of bottom holes were blocked. But if it needs more I'll put more in.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22314112 - 09/30/15 01:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's okay if they're dry when you get to them, but you need to mist them rather than letting them stay dry when you have the option to mist. Not doing the 100% best possible is okay, just do as best as you can and that will have to be enough because that's what you get with what you've got. Does any of that make... actual sense? I hope so.
It does need a little more perlite, that would be why it's drying out so fast.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
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Imthepoop said: Because I wld think if anyone has a life and leaves for a few hours they will return to them being dry. If someone is home all day and night then sure mist em every 2 hrs. Need one of those misting setups grocery stores have lol.
Welp there you go thinking anyone around here has a life. Some ppl here only sleep in 2 hour increments and have an alarm to wake them up to mist/fan. I kid..wish I had some good answers for ya but welcome to the Shroomery and remember very few noobs get it right on the first try...or 2nd or 3rd or.....
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: BlueIndian]
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I got it right the first few tries before things really went to shit. Beginners luck is real.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Inocuole]
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I added more perlite. I did notice quite a few nice pins growing on the bottom. Good size too. Actually looking better than all my other pins. Do I just leave em to grow from bottom?
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22314399 - 09/30/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yep. That's a sign that the conditions were better for pinning down there, probably from the low level of the perlite.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Inocuole]
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Well hopefully I added enough. Guess ill know if all of sudden shit starts to turn around. Came to far contam free to let fae get me down and out lol.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22316607 - 09/30/15 10:14 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Patience is the hardest part of this hobby, as least for me it was... YOU WILL GET THERE!!!You are asking ALL the RIGHT questions and making the RIGHT adjustments...Sometimes you can over-adjust and over think.
    They are coming...Good Vibes!
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Darkhome]
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Lol I know. The best part is so close I am almost looking forward to gagging on them LMAO
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22316722 - 09/30/15 10:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sometimes I just munch them down chased with some OJ...but if they cause you nausea, I recommend about a teaspoon of powdered Ginger mixed into some OJ...it's a little odd tasting, but it takes away the heavy stomach feeling for me. You can also grind them up with a coffee grinder. I do this sometimes...like a sort of Lemon Tek... You just take whatever amount, grind it, put a little lemon juice on top, stir it every 15 minutes for an hour, then slam it...chased by your ginger OJ...comes on waaaaay faster. It's because your body doesn't have to break it down.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Darkhome]
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Hmm very interesting. My brother said make koolaid? Or tea? He said he just swallows them with pudding as he gagged even talking about it lol. I have high expectations of them tasting very foul I'm assuming. But by the time u go through this whole process...eating em seems like it'll be the easiest part lol. Some people have mentioned putting cakes in water in a dish for few hours if they seem dry? Can it hurt anything if it's done not exactly knowing it's needed? Also trying to search what waterlogged cakes look like. Just to be aware incase it happens to me.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22316804 - 09/30/15 11:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah you can definitely put them in a saucer of water for a little while, I would just keep an eye on them to see if they are absorbing the water or not. I don't think it would hurt anything as long as you use clean supplies and common sense. Start with a little water, see if it absorbs it all, go from there.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Darkhome]
#22316808 - 09/30/15 11:21 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Clean as in like wash with soap and water first or sterilize? Is the perlite supposed to be wet to the bottom? I was told it shouldn't be wet but wld hold moisture from misting etc. My perlite never really feels wet unless I had just misted obviously lol. But is it always supposed to be moist to the bottom?
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22316815 - 09/30/15 11:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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 Idk what is going on with these guys... It all Just looks weird.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22316843 - 09/30/15 11:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I used to wash my hands with antibacterial soap and use alcohol to sanitize my hands...then wear gloves...lol but I am VERY OCD...use your own judgement. The perlite usually catches overspray from your misting and should be damp but no pooling of water. It's also a good idea to make sure your bottom holes aren't clogged...I wiped a small screwdriver down with Iso and popped it thru the bottom and side holes if they seemed clogged. You can also rake the surface of the Perlite with your fingers sometimes as well to stir it up....BUT...Don't be so hard on yourself...You got cakes to pin!...You are doing better than you give yourself credit for!
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22316851 - 09/30/15 11:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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 Idk what is going on with these guys... It all Just looks weird.
I'm no expert but that is a whole lot of bruising on that cake. FAE or humidity may be off?
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22316867 - 09/30/15 11:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sometimes the best thing you can do for them is leave them alone for a while. Really I was kidding in my other post about ppl getting up every 2 hours to mist and fan. Honestly trying to play mother nature too much will just make it worse. You already have shrooms going so dunking now is not a good idea..maybe after you've taken the first flush then yes.
As far as eating them it is an acquired taste. I don't have a prob getting them down...I chase them with beer. Every now and then there is a little cud that comes back up but I just chew it again and swallow. 
Worst I've seen are a couple ppl who did puke em up only to pick them up and eat them again.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: BlueIndian]
#22316875 - 09/30/15 11:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Shit.. So take em out of Little dish if water lol... Some of the cakes have pins on bottom...fuck did I just drown them? The bruising started cuz I mist them to closely. The bruising was getting lighter but when I added perlite today I had to touch them. I tried to be gentle as possible only touching top and bottom but I have quite a few pins on the top.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Kalistis]
#22316889 - 09/30/15 11:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think it will be fine...No you didn't drown your pins...they can survive a dunk...Maybe you are just giving them too much love...I would leave them alone (try not to touch them)...Keep misting and fanning and see if the bruising continues to lighten or go away. GOOD VIBES!!!
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22316893 - 09/30/15 11:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Imma have to get high just to cope with the stress and anxiety these precious little fuckers give me.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: BlueIndian]
#22316894 - 09/30/15 11:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Looking at the pics again I don't know if the blueing on the first 2 pics is bruising or contams..but I do know you have a bunch that are about to bust out on the 3rd pic. Really sometimes it's best to let them do their thing....don't kill them with kindness. Opening it repeatedly to mist just messes up the humidity that should be in there.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: BlueIndian]
#22316903 - 09/30/15 11:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I caused the bruising. It's only on like 2 cakes cuz I handled them and sprayed to heavily. Not 15 min after I mist them last night the poor baby bruised. I thought maybe it was because I had changed the water in bottle and it was probably really cold.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Darkhome]
#22316904 - 09/30/15 11:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I have heard of people loving them to death... I do it with house plants. I always over water them. Always. I stopped buying house plants a long time ago and started gardening in my yard for that very reason. That way I think about it before I put on my shoes to go over water my garden.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22316908 - 09/30/15 11:57 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I didn't know wth that cluster was doing. It's pretty much like that all the way around. I thought they were gona be aborts
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22316912 - 09/30/15 11:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Imthepoop said: Imma have to get high just to cope with the stress and anxiety these precious little fuckers give me.
lmao...you will get over it...I remember those days...Now I'm trying to decide if I should harvest a tub...or wait a little longer...I'm too tired to clean them all tonight...yawn... I always mist with cold tap water...I think you are fine...You will be remembering this and laughing when you are pulling Oz out of tubs.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
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This is why forums are sometimes bad. Last night I was told my cakes looked way to dry.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: BlueIndian]
#22316917 - 09/30/15 11:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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How did you hydrate your perlite?
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22316921 - 10/01/15 12:01 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Everyone has their own ideas and opinions...you will soon get a feel for what the mycellium and mushies want...that's why cakes are great...they teach you alot about the cycle of this wonderful Fungi...but yeah RELAX...It's all gonna be OK...
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: LocN9ne]
#22316924 - 10/01/15 12:01 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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And in rolls LocN9ne to give the girl more to worry about. Hahaha.
Classic.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22316929 - 10/01/15 12:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Imma just smoke weed and play Wii for an hour then take them out of the water and not look at em again til morning lol. Hopefully the big droopy nub turns into a big erect beautiful fruit Lmmfao
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Kalistis]
#22316931 - 10/01/15 12:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I just assume I am going to fuck it all up and if I get anything I will be lucky. But then again I come from a science background so I am accustomed to fucking up. A lot.
Just breathe. And maybe lay off the cakes. There is a reason why all the TC's on here say to follow just one tek and don't deviate as it is likely to be disastrous.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: LocN9ne]
#22316944 - 10/01/15 12:06 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I added more... I rinsed it as usual and added it to the tub... Oh fack.... Now I know I've done gon n fucked up lol. Lucky Charms is here to tell me. He is so flipping smart.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22316948 - 10/01/15 12:08 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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<---I'm relaxed... My emoticon guy proves it
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22316952 - 10/01/15 12:09 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Imthepoop said: Imma just smoke weed and play Wii for an hour then take them out of the water and not look at em again til morning lol. Hopefully the big droopy nub turns into a big erect beautiful fruit Lmmfao
That sounds like a plan...somehow I hear Porn music in the background when I read this post...not sure if it's my dirty mind or yours? LoL Anyway...YOU got this...leave them alone till morning...there is going to be an improvement...and You are on the right track! GOOD VIBES!!!
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Darkhome]
#22316996 - 10/01/15 12:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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those are not aborts...leave them alone they'll do their thing.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: BlueIndian]
#22317049 - 10/01/15 12:42 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Are we allowed to post like links to videos lol. I saw this educational video and thought he hit just right with his Tek
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22317052 - 10/01/15 12:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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What does hot topic mean next to my thread?
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22317060 - 10/01/15 12:52 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lots of replies. Your thread is a hott topic at the moment
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Chakatron]
#22317083 - 10/01/15 01:02 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sweet... Lol do my own replies count lol that probably accounts for most lol
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22317094 - 10/01/15 01:06 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think it has to have alot of VIEWS too...to qualify as a "Hot Topic" Are you going to move up to Bulk when you finish these? Or keep doing cakes for a while?
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Darkhome]
#22317114 - 10/01/15 01:11 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Honestly... My friend has no idea lol she has thought about bulk but idk wtf she would do with all the mushrooms when only she is eating them for the most part. She has a badass dehydrator coming tho. Excalibur. Dry them babies up quick as possible.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22317117 - 10/01/15 01:12 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Your... friend? No. We don't play that game.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Inocuole]
#22317126 - 10/01/15 01:16 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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LOL...It definitely depends on what you want, but a Mono...or even Mini-Mono can provide great results with minimal effort...

And My Dehydrator was full...all from a 27q Mini-Mono People come out of the woodwork when you start handing cubes out...I've never had so many "friends"
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Darkhome]
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LMAO.. But I see alot of ppl are on here for their friends best interest so that's why I'm here
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22317218 - 10/01/15 02:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well I wasn't give them away anyway if I was her. Takes way to much time and effort. She wld educate someone to do their own but I'd rather just dry em and save them.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22318691 - 10/01/15 11:27 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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So we're gonna do the friend thing anyway? Okay. You're cool and all but.. I'm just gonna.. back away. You have fun with that.
I will be tending to my personal grow of bulk amounts of illegal mushrooms in my home in the US where it's a felony. When they're dry I'll set them next to the other giant bags, like this:
Alright I left it up for 8 hours, I'm not gonna draw THAT much attention to myself
You should have your friend make an account though, it would be easier.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Inocuole]
#22319452 - 10/01/15 02:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: So we're gonna do the friend thing anyway? Okay. You're cool and all but.. I'm just gonna.. back away. You have fun with that.
I will be tending to my personal grow of bulk amounts of illegal mushrooms in my home in the US where it's a felony. When they're dry I'll set them next to the other giant bags, like this:

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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: LocN9ne]
#22319505 - 10/01/15 02:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm just saying, all of us who've been here for years and collectively posted metric tons of mushrooms have all done so in good faith. If they wanted to bust us, they would do it, whether we're talking on behalf of our friend or dog or squirrel. Chances are, people here talking about one or two tubs aren't ever the ones they really need to take down anyway.
Acting sketchy is more suspicious than just being like "yep, check out all these mushrooms, gonna go make a giant pot of tea, brb". In a future life, I will be a cop, and I will lurk online forums and I'll only bust the people who use SWIM or who "post for their friend", so that everybody catches onto the trend and just starts talking normally.
Seriously no offense, just do yourself a favor and stop being paranoid. Do you know how many people get paranoid during their first set of grows, eat a big dose, and then flip the fuck out and throw away all their shit? It's not zero, I'll say that much. Relax. Speak freely.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Inocuole]
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: BlueIndian]
#22321113 - 10/01/15 08:43 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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So sensitive... I always wonder why ppl say my "friend" when it's quite obvious it's bs. I see alot of ppl with that or basically it's all for education etc. I honestly don't really care obviously, that was the only time I referenced "friend"
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22321129 - 10/01/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's why I thought it was out of place, you already said it was you earlier. I figured you were stoned and paranoid or something.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Inocuole]
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Nah.. I was just being goofy lol. I thought about tub next.. Thinking it wld be easier than a crap ton of cakes but I'm assuming more risk of failure with a tub?
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
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Compromise risk and return by doing a mini mono, they have great yields and you can choose to only use one or two jars of spawn per tub. Reduces the chances of one bad jar ruining 4-5 good ones.
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They are looking more alive and thriving now. Still weird how big one is growing downward with another big one Right under him. I'm pretty confident that needing more perlite...which was a no fuckin brainer...idk why I overlooked the most obvious reason..and not giving enough water at a time. Misting, I associated with a light sprinkle don't let it pool at all on the top. As soon as I would see any pooling at all or glistening i thought I put to much. Obviously they are pretty much made of water so the more water they have the more they can consume to get bigger..without waterlogging them and fanning often. I was gone for the last 4-5 hrs with bball games so I gave them plenty of attention tn and I swear they are bigger every 30-60 min lol. Awesome sauce!
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
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Yea nice pinsets on those cakes! I see they have a slight blue tint so I think you need to be misting more. Mist until they are nice and glistening, then mist next when thry look dry
I think you should try bulk for your next grow. Its where the real fun stuff starts ! Do you own a pressure cooker?
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: mushpunx]
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 No pressure cooker. I can get one tho. I pulled these off today before the spores fell. I'm Happy i got some mushies yet disappointed it's not what I was hoping for. I mist them non fucking stop. I'm having a hard time keeping the the temp at even 70. I have a heater going and a cool mist humidifier. I fan and mist non stop. The bruising was caused by me touching them and misting to close. Everytime I mist since bruising it just gets darker when wet. So idk. I'm ready for 2nd flush. When will I know it's done fruiting?
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
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If you are having to constantly mist, I might suggest that you rehydrate your perlite... just a thought.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22323153 - 10/02/15 11:21 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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When it stops or contams.
Yeah seriously.. cakes are nice until you get to fruiting.. such a small substrate sucks at holding eater. You'll love bulk if you make the switch. Everyone does. It's pretty much set and forget. No misting is generally needed. Unless it gets dry, which is what the pf tek taught you. How it should look, and when to mist
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: LocN9ne]
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When it's done fruiting you'll be like "So where's the next flush" and it'll just be sitting there, silent. Then a few days later you'll be like "So where's the next flush" and it'll be sitting there.... silent. Then a few days later, you'll be like "So where's the, fuck this, I'll just start over"
And that's the mushroom life cycle.
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Lmao
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 Do I go ahead and take all these guys off? Also I soaked a cple of my cakes in a little bit of water overnight and it doesn't look like they took any of it. If I take the cakes out to rinse perlite, what do I do with the cakes? Are they OK just to chill for a few mins out of chamber?
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
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Also I have 6 more jars to birth... I've read about crumbling them up in a tub? I think I wld rather do that with my next 6 jars if that's a thing?
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
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Yeah they are fine just chillin while you hydrate your perlite... what do you have by means of a substrate, and fruiting chamber if you were to crumble them?
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: LocN9ne]
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You want to crumble and apply a casing layer such as vermiculite on top of the crumbles. Can use something as cheap as a aluminum pie plate. Don't know how many new cakes you have to work with. But realize by doing that method it doesn't guarantee you will get more weight than if you just fruited as cakes. If you crumble and case you can put the container in the same chamber you already have.
Locn...when you refer to substrate that's for bulk mixing...that's prob not what she needs to do at this point with cakes.
*EDIT* sorry your post says plane as day you have 6 more....crumble and case would be a great way to go for now IMO.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: BlueIndian]
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If she is going to crumble them then yeah that's what she should do is spawn to bulk...if she just was gonna case the "crumbles" she could just dunk and roll which is what casing the crumbles would be replicating in a less than ideal way...
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: LocN9ne]
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I may be wrong...but I don't see the point in crumbling cakes if your not gonna put them to some CVG at least.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: LocN9ne]
#22325164 - 10/02/15 06:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I just wana crumble em and put em a pan or tub or whatever it's supposed to be in and put in chamber. After kids go to sleep imma rinse perlite clean chamber and figure out what keeps going wrong. I have noticed after I mist and come back cple hrs later the walls are dry except like the back wall of chamber closest to wall. It's only happened since I added more perlite. I read the walls shld be evaporated by the time u mist again. What temp is best for inside chamber? Also wondering if the little heater i have in grow room is drying it out. It's starting to get cold at night and room isn't insulated. So I keep it up pretty high to maintain like 75 in the room or it'll drop below 65 prob.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
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There shouldn't be condensation on the walls really... what kind of heater are we talking about here...does it blow hot air?
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: LocN9ne]
#22325437 - 10/02/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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 Probably not much and wrong kind of scale. Got that off 1.5 cakes. What's the best way to store em if u dnt wana dry em. Thinking of doing one of the drinks I've read about. The lemon Tek?
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
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Yes it blows hot air. I don't have it aimed right at the chamber but it's a cple feet from it. Lol let me guess.. Thats probably the problem lol
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: LocN9ne]
#22325473 - 10/02/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lmao.. Oh my goodness.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
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You have to eat your entire first harvest fresh... rules is rules... moving air is sorta bad around sgfc lmmfao...look at you, figuring shit out and what not lol... that is a good looking little haul...I would just eat them fresh, so you can get a feel for them...but lemon tek is fire too...hits you hard and fast.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: LocN9ne]
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I disagree, try lime tek instead.
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Well good thing I like it hard and fast..Lmmfao...alcohol lol
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
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Also I just totally redid chamber and yes I'm an asshole... I only had 3in of perlite. Now there's 4.5 so hopefully that helps. Imma leave heater off tn and see what temp it goes to.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
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The temp shouldn't be an issue...it's the air circulation that causes issues...
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: LocN9ne]
#22326284 - 10/02/15 10:55 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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 So I have no clue really how much is here.. This junk scale Says 2.4fl oz.... So idk... Idk if this is enough or not enough to eat now wet... Lol I can't take it i can't wait I have to now
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
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tripping said: This junk scale Says 2.4fl oz....
Adjust it to grams. I'd def weigh it out properly first, you don't want to overdo it. By the looks of it, I'd say around 40 grams wet, but that's just a guess..
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Psilosoulful]
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When they are wet I just eat a handful...well, when they are dry I just eat a handful too so that don't matter I guess...
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: LocN9ne]
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Best way to store shrooms from dehydrator? I have more to harvest and dry but idk what to do with them when they are dry.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
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Short term (like max 3 months) can be a zip lock or some shit with a desiccant. For long term either a jar, or vacuum sealed. Desiccant packs optional in an airtight container.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Mad Season]
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You can use the half gallon mason jars, fill em up to the top with your dried mush, and put two silica gel packets in there for good measure (I use the 10 gram ones). They'll stay dry and potent for years.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Psilosoulful]
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Great... Thanks
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That is true, but it becomes rediculously expensive and space consuming, mad's suggestion of vacuum sealing is so much more practical.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Mad Season]
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Mad Season said: Short term (like max 3 months) can be a zip lock or some shit with a desiccant. For long term either a jar, or vacuum sealed. Desiccant packs optional in an airtight container.
Why do you say only 3 months in a zip? I put an ounce in a quart Zip, suck the air out with a straw, seal it and roll it up. Then I place all of those in a gallon Zip and suck the air out it as well. The gallon has 1-2 desiccant packs in it as well. I've left them in there for longer than 3 months and haven't had an issue so far.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: stareatclouds]
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Word. Because cracker dry mushies become a desiccant themselves. Sucking water in from the outside air. After 3 months of them absorbing moisture, I wouldn't want them in an airtight container. I know there's quite a few people like inoc who've had to re-dry mushrooms that have been in zip locks for too long. I just said 3 months cause it was a number I pulled out of my ass that sounded about right lol
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Mad Season]
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Yeah I have a few silica gel packs for stuff I do have to bag. Jars aren't very space efficient and vacuum sealing breaks the mushrooms.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Inocuole]
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Right, but with the air sucked out of a Zip and then inside another Zip (with silica packets) and the air sucked out, where's the air coming from? I know the bags aren't air tight and are porous, but shouldn't that be decent? I periodically open them up and suck the air back out when they inflate a little.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: stareatclouds]
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Eh I think it's fine with desiccant in the ziplocks.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Inocuole]
#22337654 - 10/05/15 04:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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if for personal use, turn the mushrooms into powder and vacuum seal/ or just use the jars.
thats what i would do although, I have never kept shrooms for longer than a month
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: blackdust]
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I have a pint jar full of ground powder that I use for chocolates and Lemon Tek. But a lot of people I trip with prefer regular fruits they can look at. Plus Lemon Tek is too intense for many people.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: stareatclouds]
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most people like seeing the fruits
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: blackdust]
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Little more appealing than a bunch of gray dusty looking powder.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
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So what did you decide to do with the other cakes? And please dry the other ones well or consume pronto...they don't last forever..can get sick off fresh ones that rot.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: BlueIndian]
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I put them in dehydrator, then in a ziplock with silica thing,if thats the Right word lol. The jars are still patiently waiting. My PE cake in chamber (1) has done nothing. I've started 2nd flush of the other 5 GT. I did dunk the single PE cake again as well for 24hrs. This is the same cake that started this thread that was in the egg lol. It's not contaminated at all. None if them are. After a cple days I took it out of the egg chamber and put in the sgfc. The jars i have left 1GT and 5PE were inoculated on 8/14 same as the cakes i have in chamber now. I only birthed 6 total incase I fucked up, I wanted to have back up cakes. So the cakes have been fully consolidated since 9/8. Well for the most part. I have 1 pe jar that is about 95% colonized. It's going sooo slow. I thought contams but it's slowing making progress. The others have been colonized since 9/8. There is zero pinning in jars either. I've kinda been letting them sit til they pin. But is how long is to long for them to be in jars. Obv the pe cake in chamber May be a dud idk. I've read pe is useless on Brf cake and Just won't pin, then I've seen ppl on here with no problems on Brf cake. So idk where to go from here with the 1pe in chamber and the 5pe in jars. No point in putting in chamber if they aren't gona do anything. I took the lid off one jar tn to smell it and noticed what I think is myc grown all the way up to lid basically and has covered the self healing injection site on bottom of the lid. Is that possible? Doesn't look like mold, but I've never seen cobweb mold so idk.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
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Is it possible to do a regular size mono spawning 5 brf cakes or do I need to do a mini mono? Either way, could someone tell me the amount of substrate I would need to spawn the 5 cakes? It's penis envy. What size tub do I need also? ( this will be first mono) any advice wld be amazing!
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22423457 - 10/23/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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1:5 is the highest you should go...I would suggest a mini...you could probably pull off a 27qt.... side note, your brf cakes are 2/3 verm already.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22423542 - 10/23/15 03:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Also has anyone tried the mushroom compost pre pasteurised substrate from shroom supply ? I was thinking of trying that since I was gona do verm/coir anyway, it just has a cple other ingredients that I didn't think would hurt. Idk if PE would like it or not as picky as it is
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22423559 - 10/23/15 04:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Spend $3 on a brick of coir from the pet store. To answer your question, no I have not.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: LocN9ne]
#22423577 - 10/23/15 04:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Could you dumb that down for me lol about cakes already having verm. Does that mean I wouldn't need to add verm, Also do I need to use a cheese grater or just break it up? Do I have to pasteurise or sterilize the coir first?
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22423612 - 10/23/15 04:13 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lol...sorry I don't think it matters all that much that your cakes have verm in them...so scratch that part for now...back on track... you can crumble or cheese grate, either way will work...I just like the idea of surface area with the grater...and no, you don't have to pasteurize coir... but the bucket tek never hurt anyone.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: LocN9ne]
#22423734 - 10/23/15 04:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Should coir be boiled before using it for casings?
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#22423758 - 10/23/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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You can pasteurize it if you want to, but it's not necessary... coir is more of a bulk substrate material than a casing material though...peat is a better casing material, and yes you do want to pasteurize peat.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: LocN9ne]
#22424021 - 10/23/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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In the future, i want to cheese grate a PF cake over some prepped coir then put a layer of prepped coir on top of that, to make a mini-mono tray.
That works right?
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#22424075 - 10/23/15 06:03 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, bUT if I was going to do it... I'd figure a 1:3 ratio probably...then mix in the grated cakes evenly throughout the sub...same exact way you would spawn to bulk with grains... side note...I would do this right at 100% colonization, you don't want the cake to consolidate before you use it.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#22424092 - 10/23/15 06:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: Should coir be boiled before using it for casings?
Seen some discussion about untreated coir being better for casing material. Cooking it makes the mycelium like digesting it better, so if you don't cook it, the chances of mycelium taking it over, or other shit germinating on it, are lower.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: LocN9ne]
#22427218 - 10/24/15 01:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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My cakes are very much consolidated.
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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: Imthepoop]
#22427277 - 10/24/15 01:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Imthepoop said:
 Cake has possible contams when birthed so after dunk i decided to isolate it. Will this work? Reminds me of soda bottle Tek so IDK if I need holes in it or not?
That container needs more perlite and drill some holes (as you already know).
Ive done a single cake "terrarium". Works pretty good. I put polyfill in two large holes.

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Re: Is this single Brf cake chamber OK? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#22429007 - 10/24/15 07:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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 Well... Sadly the single cake that began this thread has finally failed. It was only in the egg terrarium for 2 days before it joined the others in sgfc. It was penis envy, other 5 in sgfc golden teacher. Golden teacher all fruited and on 3rd flush. Like a week ago finally PE started to turn white like it would begin pinning soon. 2 days ago I started noticing these big really white spots on cake, I thought it was just places it was getting ready to pin first. This morning I went to fan and mist and found the big white spots turned green. I immediately removed it from sgfc cuz one of the other cakes is pinning but was in a hurry and set it back in egg terrarium until I could be sure it was garbage and there was no saving it. From everything I've read, I don't think there is any saving it. Kinda bummed cuz its been a long 2 months from inoc to now, and never once saw a pin. I know now from research I guess it's almost impossible to grow envy on Brf cake. Hopefully when I crumble other 5 brf cakes in mono tub maybe something will happen. Do I need to dunk after birthing for 24hrs before crumbling into mono? Since I only have 5 cakes, would it be possible to make a cple very small tubs to maybe increase chances of getting something out of em incase it contams. Then if I had 1 contam,id still have a shot with other tub. Or is 5 cakes not enough to even bother with trying to make 1 to begin with. I still have 10cc of penis envy and 10cc of b+. I'm gona try to go about both of them differently. No sgfc. So now it's just figuring out what's best for each strain.
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