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What drugs will likely be legalized after Marijuana?
    #22260660 - 09/19/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Eventually, Marijuana will be legal throughout most of the United States.  Will there be a push to legalize other drugs?  What drug of drugs will be next to be legalized?  My opinion is that it will likely be natural drugs like mushrooms or peyote.  MDMA or LSD are synthetic compounds not found naturally in nature, so people may have less of a favorable opinion of them, making their legalization less likely in the near future.


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Re: What drugs will likely be legalized after Marijuana? [Re: uninc4life2010]
    #22260735 - 09/19/15 03:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I doubt there will be a push outside of ending the drug war.

MDMA should be rescheduled around 2021.  I expect psilocybin and its cousins will be next followed by the rest of the classical psychedelics.  No idea on the timeline, I haven't heard of any phase two trials for anything but MDMA.

This won't make them legal for recreation.  But they should be usable as an adjunct to therapy fairly soon.


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Re: What drugs will likely be legalized after Marijuana? [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22263023 - 09/20/15 12:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think other states will eventually follow suit with the legalization of marijuana after seeing what Colorado has brought in from taxes. It's right in everyone's face and would be a far better choice than raising and adding taxes left and right that will never go back down once started. Illinois is in some deep shit and now they're talking about taxing sugary drinks and an additional garbage fee in Chicago. As if people weren't pissed off enough with all the red light cameras. :mad2: Legalizing marijuana could be a golden ticket of sorts for states with a major debt problem.     


Colorado Just Became The First State In History To Collect More Taxes From Marijuana Than Alcohol


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No state has ever generated more tax revenue from marijuana than alcohol—until now.
The Colorado Department of Revenue, according to recently released figures, just brought in $70 million in taxes relating to marijuana, compared to less than $42 million for alcohol taxes, over the course of a year.




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Re: What drugs will likely be legalized after Marijuana? [Re: uninc4life2010]
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Re: What drugs will likely be legalized after Marijuana? [Re: Douglas Howard]
    #22263959 - 09/20/15 09:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The marijuana legalization movement has a lot of momentum at the moment, and virtually everyone can agree that the drug war has been a complete disaster, but what I'm asking is which drug will likely be the next candidate for legalization?  What will the movement look like after marijuana becomes legal nationally?


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Re: What drugs will likely be legalized after Marijuana? [Re: uninc4life2010]
    #22264022 - 09/20/15 10:05 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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The marijuana legalization movement has a lot of momentum at the moment, and virtually everyone can agree that the drug war has been a complete disaster, but what I'm asking is which drug will likely be the next candidate for legalization?  What will the movement look like after marijuana becomes legal nationally?




It won't look like anything.  A lot of people smoke weed that don't regularly use other illegal substances.  In other words there's just not a lot of motivation to change things in relation to specific other drugs.

Psychiatry and wide scale drug policy reform are where we'll see further drug law change.  Not in individual legalization of psychedelics for recreational use.


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Re: What drugs will likely be legalized after Marijuana? [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22265777 - 09/20/15 04:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Psilocybin. Magic mushrooms will be the next thing to legalize. Its already considered very low priority.


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Re: What drugs will likely be legalized after Marijuana? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22266068 - 09/20/15 05:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Psilocybin. Magic mushrooms will be the next thing to legalize. Its already considered very low priority.




Exactly, something you can't get hooked on and can only do every couple weeks, I fail to see the logic in keeping them illegal...


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Re: What drugs will likely be legalized after Marijuana? [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22266077 - 09/20/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

There's no logic in it but no motivation to change policy outside of large scale reform and psychiatric research.


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Re: What drugs will likely be legalized after Marijuana? [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22267199 - 09/20/15 09:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

probably none, especially psychedelics as they aren't very profitable, they make us think too much and there isn't enough push to make them a mainstream topic. Honestly aside from bud, i think all other schedule one drugs, even the good ones (Acid, Mushrooms, DMT, Peyote, etc), are going to be illegal for a long, long time.  The only reason weed is probably going to be legalized is because its the most commonly used illegal drug worldwide and its effects are relatively mild compared to other psychedelics and schedule 1 drugs. If tons of people are pushing for a cause its only so long the gov't/lawmakers can keep something illegal. i think the only chance is if we could just end "the war on drugs". As long as there is "a war on drugs" the gov't can say whatever they want and have most people believe it without question, also it gives all drugs especially beneficial ones like psychedelics a negative connotation, e.g. heroin, meth and crack are just as bad as weed, acid, DMT, mushrooms. The only reason weed isn't seen by the majority to be akin to other schedule ones is because TONS of people are demanding change.


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Re: What drugs will likely be legalized after Marijuana? [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #22270877 - 09/21/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I would be surprised if cannabis is ever legalized - I know that seems strange given all the momentum that has built up over just the last year.

It just seems if it ever does come close to being legalized by a majority of states some official will swoop in and put a stop to it.


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Re: What drugs will likely be legalized after Marijuana? [Re: Atreyu]
    #22270939 - 09/21/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I would be surprised if cannabis is ever legalized - I know that seems strange given all the momentum that has built up over just the last year.

It just seems if it ever does come close to being legalized by a majority of states some official will swoop in and put a stop to it.




Once it becomes legal and there is a large economic market that employs tens of thousands of people, it isn't going anywhere easily.  I think that there probably will be a few hold outs, like Utah and Mississippi that may not legalize due to deep conservative and religious roots, but I'm fairly confident that within a decade, the majority of states will have legal pot.  There are still dry counties, so there probably will be small areas of the countries that will ban the sale of marijuana locally.


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Re: What drugs will likely be legalized after Marijuana? [Re: uninc4life2010]
    #22277331 - 09/23/15 02:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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  What drug of drugs will be next to be legalized?  My opinion is that it will likely be natural drugs like mushrooms or peyote.





No way. Mushrooms are never going to be legal. Cocaine heroin and meth will all be legal one day because even people who don't do those drugs are effected by the prohibition. A junkie has to commit crime to afford 300 dollar a day habit, it makes no sense not to put him on some opiate script. Crack too, crack heads wouldnt be committing crimes if crack was a 15 dollar a day habit. Legalization of hard drugs can make the users of these drugs invisible, instead of homeless addicts stealing and begging and whoring. Mushroom users are not normally visible at all. We don't steal for it, not addictive etc. Only one problem.
Psychedelics have a bad habit of making about one of every 100 or 1000 people freak out and when that happens it sets us back years. A negative LSD story is worth about 10 thousand negative alcohol stories. It will never be legal because it's too unpredictable. Even Netherlands banned mushrooms because some high profile freak outs among tourists. It doesn't matter if its one in 10 thousand trips, that is what makes the news. 
People who had bad experience with this class of drugs tend to be very anti psychedelic. And they fucking for sure do not want their kids trying it. You are never going to beat societies prejudice on this one. People quit these types of drugs and never give another fuck, most former users probably support prohibition. LSD scares people.


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Re: What drugs will likely be legalized after Marijuana? [Re: my3rdeye]
    #22278404 - 09/23/15 11:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Psychedelics are also way less understood than opiates, amphetamines, etc. Even without the negative stigma that they've attained and the freakout stories they can make people stop caring about social norms, just look at the 60's. Nixon and Reagan (the gov't) were scared shitless that a "drug" could have such an effect on the masses. Yeah i don't see any psychedelics becoming legal even medicinally anytime in the near or distant future


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Re: What drugs will likely be legalized after Marijuana? [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #22280327 - 09/23/15 07:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I definately think that mushrooms will be legal, probably before any other drugs. Mushrooms really don't have the stigma attached to them that LSD does.

Even if you read the anti drug websites, it's almost always saying how bad LSD addiction is, or you'll go insane or something like that. With mushrooms it's just "you might have a bad trip or flashbacks" most of the time.

Even just bringing up mushrooms in any sort of discussion(other than button mushrooms) almost always leads to some sort of discussion about psychedelic mushrooms. Peyote also has a similar stance amongst most people.

LSD definately has the worst rap about it among psyches, and the most propaganda.


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Re: What drugs will likely be legalized after Marijuana? [Re: Achillita]
    #22281426 - 09/23/15 09:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I really hope so but idk i can't see it happening soon, i really wish they were at least medicinally available, bud and mushies are the only drugs i like and im lucky weeds medical where im at but mushrooms can still get you in some trouble. Hopefully we can get enough people behind the cause though then it'd change. but the people who like mushrooms are a pretty small subculture typically unlike weed


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Re: What drugs will likely be legalized after Marijuana? [Re: MysticMoteToter]
    #22282501 - 09/24/15 08:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

the next huge step would be decriminalization of everything else. i'm not sure if they'll ever legalize other things, but they might stop locking up people for possessing small quantities of other things than marijuana.


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Re: What drugs will likely be legalized after Marijuana? [Re: millzy]
    #22282516 - 09/24/15 08:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If mushrooms become legal (again - they were in my youth) I'm throwing a party. So should the whole shroomery. I'd fly in for that.


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Re: What drugs will likely be legalized after Marijuana? [Re: uninc4life2010]
    #22291502 - 09/26/15 01:34 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

All drugs will be legalized eventually.... (Not for recreation IE. Meth is legal right now but only prescribed meth).


So far we have alcohol, tobacco, and soon cannabis as recreational.

What other drug has mass-appeal and perceiving low consequences? I'm betting coke (natural but extracted) because of the low numbers of people (relatively) who enjoy hallucinogens like shrooms, peyote, and LSD.


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Re: What drugs will likely be legalized after Marijuana? [Re: burgerbrain]
    #22326208 - 10/02/15 10:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

drugs will probably only be legalized if there are corporations making profit from it.  it is very well know where a large majority of the drugs come from(cocaine and heroin) but there are a lot of jobs at risk if the trafficking comes to an end(amongst other things).


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