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quick advice for fruiting PF cakes in a monotub
    #22260577 - 09/19/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I've used SGFC with much success. I have four pints of mycellium, fully colonized and dunked now. While I had six and planned to spawn to bulk, I think my mono is too large for four measly pints. I still want to get comfortable with the monotub for my next grow!

After doing some searching, I see that using a mono is totally feasible, but I do recognize that the environment will be different from a typical SGFC and was wondering what, if any temporary alterations I may need to make to better suit the cakes?

I am going to build the mono tonight (no pictures yet), but I had envisioned everything as normal, but just using perlite and foil on the bottom. Most of my searches seem to suggest this is OK, but most of my findings are from years ago.

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Re: quick advice for fruiting PF cakes in a monotub [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
    #22260592 - 09/19/15 02:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You don't use perlite in monotubs, monotubs are for spawning to a bulk substrate (CVG, manure, straw, etc) if you are just going to fruit the cakes as cakes then you are going to want to stick to your SGFC.


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Re: quick advice for fruiting PF cakes in a monotub [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22260603 - 09/19/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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You don't use perlite in monotubs, monotubs are for spawning to a bulk substrate (CVG, manure, straw, etc) if you are just going to fruit the cakes as cakes then you are going to want to stick to your SGFC.



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Re: quick advice for fruiting PF cakes in a monotub [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22260606 - 09/19/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

because the monotub would not have adequate FAE, or something?

My SGFC would require a lot of fine tuning from the last grow and I'd rather just invest that time into a mono... Is that just not going to work? :sad:

Pardon my skepticism, but I've seen success (pictures) in some threads around here, where people fruited cakes in a mono. It looked like perlite and foil... I'm a noob though, so it's monkey see monkey do on my end.


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Re: quick advice for fruiting PF cakes in a monotub [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
    #22260620 - 09/19/15 03:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i mean if you really wanna put perlite in a mono go for it but if youve got a SGFC thats your better bet. otherwise youll just be cleaning out a mess b4 you spawn. whats the problem with your other SGFC? and youve got holes in the bottom of the tub right?


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Re: quick advice for fruiting PF cakes in a monotub [Re: aerow.thefox]
    #22260635 - 09/19/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

My SGFC had too much FAE, so I had to spray/fan like 8 times a day :lol: I guess I can just buy more poly and make it happen :shrug: I was just hoping to build/test a mono to get the ball rolling in my education.

I've yet to construct the mono and I don't have my notes to post a picture of, but yes. I planned 8 holes; two sides; two top, two bottom on each side.

I have measurements and stuff, but it's a big ass box, so I was *thinking* about putting an extra (small) hole in the center of the third and fourth (long) sides, to break up the oxygen/FAE gradient. While I have your attention, what do you think about that??? THe box is probably 3'"x1'10"x2'6" complete guesses.

EDIT: I can just come back with my notes/box measurements too, if you'd like!


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Re: quick advice for fruiting PF cakes in a monotub [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
    #22260651 - 09/19/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You can use a monotub for cakes, just fill it up and dial it in as you would do for a bulk substrate. No perlite is needed, fruit in the jar with a casing layer. :thumbup:


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Re: quick advice for fruiting PF cakes in a monotub [Re: Yerow]
    #22260668 - 09/19/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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fruit in the jar with a casing layer. :thumbup:



AHHHHH!!!!!!! I've always wanted to try that, too! I've done no research on the benefits/risks though. Any good known teks/discussions out there for fruiting in the jars? Second opinion, lol?


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Re: quick advice for fruiting PF cakes in a monotub [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
    #22260706 - 09/19/15 03:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Check my grow...its not PF cakes, but should be the same. Just pasteurize or sterilize some coir/verm and cover the cake, pushing gently, mainly towards the sides of jar. Cover with alu foil, poke a few holes and wait 2-3 days till it colonizes thru the casing. Then remove the foil and fruit.


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Re: quick advice for fruiting PF cakes in a monotub [Re: jcop]
    #22260726 - 09/19/15 03:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Simple as pie cakes.

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Re: quick advice for fruiting PF cakes in a monotub [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
    #22260745 - 09/19/15 03:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Simple as pie cakes.

Prepare yourself for the peeping of a lifetime! Thanks, man :highfive:




Exactly, I was pleasantly surprised. Btw I used straight coir. I just soak it and cook it in a pan for like 10-15 mins, cover and let cool, then case. No probs with contams :shrug::goodluck:

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EDIT: Casing height should be approx. 1/4 of a cake height.


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Re: quick advice for fruiting PF cakes in a monotub [Re: jcop]
    #22260748 - 09/19/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Why don't you just crumble your cakes, then spawn them to a bulk substrate in your monotub... I think that would be your best bet if you are hell bent on using a monotub...4 cakes in a monotub is just asking for dried cakes.


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Re: quick advice for fruiting PF cakes in a monotub [Re: Yerow]
    #22260767 - 09/19/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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with a casing layer. :thumbup:



pffft. i didnt even think of that. i was afraid theyd dry out. good lookin:thumbup:


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Re: quick advice for fruiting PF cakes in a monotub [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22260772 - 09/19/15 03:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Ahh, so a mono won't be able to maintain the correct humidity without all that substrate? Good to know. I liked the idea of burying them in a jar/casing to maintain moisture, but I'm not really hell bent on anything tbh. These four jars were an investment I'd like to see succeed.

But the main reason is that I had heard that four, pint sized jars, just aren't enough to spawn to bulk (without using less substrate and a smaller box).

Btw, I should mention that I sliced them all in half to make 8 1/2 pint cakes.


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Re: quick advice for fruiting PF cakes in a monotub [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
    #22260782 - 09/19/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I've gotten a LOT of good info and always anticipate/appreciate more, but if this thread has run its course, I just wanted to thank you all for your time and attention!

I love you guys! :heart:


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Re: quick advice for fruiting PF cakes in a monotub [Re: Giftofdeprivation]
    #22260807 - 09/19/15 03:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

There are just so many styles of growing, one can never stop experimenting if he so wishes, right?

If you choose to do the casing though, I would also recommend SGFC over mono.

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