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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: Patlal]
    #22260098 - 09/19/15 12:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

What details did Obama give?  We are still waiting after 2 terms!!  :rofl2:


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: qman]
    #22260129 - 09/19/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

And the tpp is still secret, no details at all. Do the moonbats complain? No, they still have trust and faith in the lying fool. But they believe nothing out of a conservative. That's why we're in the mess we are in.


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22260301 - 09/19/15 01:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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And the tpp is still secret, no details at all. Do the moonbats complain? No, they still have trust and faith in the lying fool. But they believe nothing out of a conservative. That's why we're in the mess we are in.




Yeah, if we just trusted conservatives, we'd be doing great.

How'd the 70s and 80s turn out?


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: qman]
    #22260427 - 09/19/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Magenta said:


"I hate Trump"




His annoying personality doesn't invalidate any of his positions (tariffs, trade with china, deporting illegal immigrants).




True. It doesn't. But he talks so much wind that is it possible to believe that he will be able to implement a tenth of his "positions?" (Which have changed more than the hair on his ass after implemented as his tupee).


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22260546 - 09/19/15 02:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Libs go entirely on emotion and personality. Every one of their criticisms of trump boil down to those things and the fact they have been trained to hate gop and conservatives even if they push the same ideas as libs.



You love the straw man argument, don't you?  Liberals prefer concrete plans, which Trump is weak on.

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Every conversation with a hard core l leftist, comes down to "I think he is no good, he is rude, blah blah"



I haven't mentioned Trump's personality even once, so that's a false statement.


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: Magenta]
    #22260586 - 09/19/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Same shit different day, they are all idiots. Name one good nominee




That's easy. Bernie Sanders is the only intelligent choice.


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22260602 - 09/19/15 03:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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And the tpp is still secret, no details at all. Do the moonbats complain? No, they still have trust and faith in the lying fool. But they believe nothing out of a conservative. That's why we're in the mess we are in.




Wow. You just run your mouth with garbage 24/7 don't you, Stoney. I can't even read half the mindless dribble you post anymore. All you do is try to get a rise out of people by saying shit you know flies in the face of fact and reason.


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #22260904 - 09/19/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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And the tpp is still secret, no details at all. Do the moonbats complain? No, they still have trust and faith in the lying fool. But they believe nothing out of a conservative. That's why we're in the mess we are in.




Wow. You just run your mouth with garbage 24/7 don't you, Stoney. I can't even read half the mindless dribble you post anymore. All you do is try to get a rise out of people by saying shit you know flies in the face of fact and reason.



I know.  Only 13 democratic senators voted in favor of fast tracking the TPP, compared with 47 republican senators.  TPP is a big corporate give-away, and republicans have demonstrated they are more in the pocket of the corporation than democrats.


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: Patlal]
    #22260947 - 09/19/15 04:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I find it smart that he doesn't give details from the get go like everyone else. It's not an easy decision like chosing what shirt to wear in the morning. All the other candidates seem to have it all figured out... The election is m



 
  If only we were all lucky enough to be considered qualified to do a job even though we dont really know how the fuck it is we are going to do anything . That would be nice.
    I've been building walls all my life , anyone who tells me building the kinda wall he's fantasizing about is easy and your going to make someone else pay for it is either a lying fucking cunt or actually mentally retarded.

 
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What I find so ironic is that the MSM doesn't ever ask any of the other politicians (R's or D's) the "details" of their positions, but somehow Trump is the only one that doesn't provide them.





  Ahh , mean ol media not being fair to your hero ? He's the one making claims people say isn't possible . If he can't back his shit up with big boy talk then fuck him . He's a pathetic liar .


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: psilynut]
    #22260994 - 09/19/15 04:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Wow, lots of Trump hating in this thread, lots of conservatives and liberals hate him, he must be doing something right...

As for the wall, lots of other countries in the world build walls to keep illegal immigrants out, yet somehow the US is incapable of doing so...

Making Mexico pay for it is easy, we give them hundreds of millions of dollars each year, withholding that "aid" should cover a nice fence...

And yes, we should name it "The Great Wall of Trump"


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #22261019 - 09/19/15 04:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Wow, lots of Trump hating in this thread, lots of conservatives and liberals hate him, he must be doing something right...




Some criteria you have. By your measure Justin Bieber would be a top notch candidate!


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: psilynut]
    #22261033 - 09/19/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I find it smart that he doesn't give details from the get go like everyone else. It's not an easy decision like chosing what shirt to wear in the morning. All the other candidates seem to have it all figured out... The election is m



 
  If only we were all lucky enough to be considered qualified to do a job even though we dont really know how the fuck it is we are going to do anything . That would be nice.
    I've been building walls all my life , anyone who tells me building the kinda wall he's fantasizing about is easy and your going to make someone else pay for it is either a lying fucking cunt or actually mentally retarded.

 
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What I find so ironic is that the MSM doesn't ever ask any of the other politicians (R's or D's) the "details" of their positions, but somehow Trump is the only one that doesn't provide them.





  Ahh , mean ol media not being fair to your hero ? He's the one making claims people say isn't possible . If he can't back his shit up with big boy talk then fuck him . He's a pathetic liar .




When Obama promised access to health care for everyone, who claimed it was impossible?  Not many.  Now that we know Obama's promises never materialized, he is a "pathetic liar"?


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: qman]
    #22261071 - 09/19/15 04:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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When Obama promised access to health care for everyone, who claimed it was impossible?  Not many.  Now that we know Obama's promises never materialized, he is a "pathetic liar"?



Are you saying you're upset that illegal immigrants didn't get coverage?  If not, what are you upset didn't happen???


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #22261077 - 09/19/15 04:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

>Only 13 democratic senators voted in favor of fast tracking the TPP, compared with 47 republican senators.  TPP is a big corporate give-away, and republicans have demonstrated they are more in the pocket of the corporation than democrats

And yet without those 13 dems it would not have happened. What difference does it make how many crossed over? If they only needed one, one would have crossed. If they needed 25, that's how many they would have gotten.

You have been taken in by the pro wrestling style theatrics of good guys vs bad guys. They pretend to hate each other but always come together when the big money people say "pass it"

My solution as always is to do away with legalized bribery. Stop that in all its forms and no more votes will be bought. There will still be log rolling, vote trading but not outright selling of votes. Big money will no longer rule the day.


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #22261085 - 09/19/15 04:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

>Are you saying you're upset that illegal immigrants didn't get coverage?

He is angry that the bum let them in and did not throw them out. In fact he encouraged illegals by talking about amnesty and by not strictly and vigorously enforcing the law.

The last thing we need to do is give more free services to those illegal bums. Did you know that the majority of those here legally do not want them either?


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #22261131 - 09/19/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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When Obama promised access to health care for everyone, who claimed it was impossible?  Not many.  Now that we know Obama's promises never materialized, he is a "pathetic liar"?



Are you saying you're upset that illegal immigrants didn't get coverage?  If not, what are you upset didn't happen???




Yeah, I cry myself to sleep every night stressing on how illegal immigrants don't get enough freebies.  :rofl2:

Are you suggesting that Obama made good of his health care promises?  Because we all can see he didn't.


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: Stonehenge]
    #22261143 - 09/19/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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You have been taken in by the pro wrestling style theatrics of good guys vs bad guys. They pretend to hate each other but always come together when the big money people say "pass it"



Wrong.  I'm the one saying there should be political spending limits.

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My solution as always is to do away with legalized bribery. Stop that in all its forms and no more votes will be bought.



Great, we're in agreement again.


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: qman]
    #22261150 - 09/19/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Are you suggesting that Obama made good of his health care promises?  Because we all can see he didn't.



I'm asking what promise you're upset about?


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: qman]
    #22261156 - 09/19/15 05:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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My solution as always is to do away with legalized bribery. Stop that in all its forms and no more votes will be bought. There will still be log rolling, vote trading but not outright selling of votes. Big money will no longer rule the day.




If that was your solution you'd be a Sanders guy. He is trying to make campaigns publicly funded.

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When Obama promised access to health care for everyone, who claimed it was impossible?  Not many.  Now that we know Obama's promises never materialized, he is a "pathetic liar"?



Are you saying you're upset that illegal immigrants didn't get coverage?  If not, what are you upset didn't happen???




Yeah, I cry myself to sleep every night stressing on how illegal immigrants don't get enough freebies.  :rofl2:

Are you suggesting that Obama made good of his health care promises?  Because we all can see he didn't.




You have an impressive level of disdain for immigrants.

Obama did make good on his promise. Just not as good as we would have liked. Everyone does have access to healthcare.


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Re: The Trump Phenomenon [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #22261158 - 09/19/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Are you suggesting that Obama made good of his health care promises?  Because we all can see he didn't.



I'm asking what promise you're upset about?




"Affordable".


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