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Shroomtrooper
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Disappointing experimental process.
#22259258 - 09/19/15 07:49 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hi guys, first Shroomtrooper want to say hi & thanks for all the info & comments on this site it really makes it a great place to kick back & read.
Star-date 252.15 Shroomtrooper, after a twenty year hiatus he wanted to go on some journeys. Without having a scale a dosage was calculated from nickels, coat-hanger & some rough looking fresh Hawaiian mushies. A pile estimated at 40gr was consumed. It was a great xp. He guess's he would call it a L2. He kicked back & watched psy music & really got into the visuals on screen.
Star-date 260-15 Shroomtrooper, set up to have another journey. He was tired, had a lot on his mind but was looking forward to it. After removing a new shiny postal scale, he weighed out a big pile of mushies. He was doing some research on eating versus drinking & how fast & long they hit you. He read where it had the intake staggered over a 20 minute period. Supposedly you can ingest a larger amount without getting slammed coming up. Since he had a scale he wanted to measure doses & not over do since he is alone in the woods.
He wanted to start where the calculator estimated at & work up from there. Now Shroomtrooper is 270lbs of awesomeness & not sure how much that effects the dosage. He had weighed out 43grs. which is double what the calc says. 7:45 10gr 7:52 13gr 7:59 7gr 8:30 13gr He turned on some pys music & kicked back in the theater seating watching the visuals video. He was tired & had started to clear his mind of negative thoughts. He kept waiting to feel something & it never really happened. after a while He got up to check the time & it was about 10:30 & He was kind of bored with no buzz. He debated eating more but decided not to since He wasn't buzzing for some reason. About 11:30 He just went to sleep.
A. these are from a first grow & look like shit. B. tired / stressed C. lower quality harvest
Who in shroomland has thoughts & xp on conditions related to this. It will be at least 2 weeks before I can journey again.
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Re: Disappointing experimental process. [Re: Shroomtrooper]
#22259343 - 09/19/15 08:32 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wet or dry?
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Shroomtrooper
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Re: Disappointing experimental process. [Re: Bumbaa]
#22260744 - 09/19/15 03:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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wet Hawaiians
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Bumbaa
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Re: Disappointing experimental process. [Re: Shroomtrooper]
#22266870 - 09/20/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think 42 gram wet is about equivalent to 4 gram dry. I don't know about the weight of your friend requiring him to take more, but in my opinion I don't think weight is affecting the quantity he must take to get a decent effect. This is a thread i quickly google about the weight and if it affects tolerance:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4063708#4063708
They mostly agree that weight has little or nothing to do with the quantity you must take. What makes a difference in how fast you come up,how hard it hits you is basically what you have in your stomach the moment you ingest the psilocybin mushroom. It is recommended that you do it on a empty stomach. You can always do the Lemon tek,I've never done it but heard it works very well;
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4714757/fpart/1/vc/1
You should of definitely felt much much more with 40g of wet mushroom; maybe since it is your first grow something went wrong and their potency just dramatically decreased.
This is up for debate but you shouldn't eat mushroom over the course of X amount of time,you should eat them all at once. Don't do it when you are tired or stressed and do not, I repeat, do not stay in front of a computer screen all the time,you must free your mind and the computer is a very strong stimuli. Try to have an objecting when you are high,even if it is the most trivial quest, it will keep you entertained for a while.
Enjoy!
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Re: Disappointing experimental process. [Re: Bumbaa] 1
#22267328 - 09/20/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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You need to take the entire dose all at once. Your tolerance sky rockets after the first hour of ingesting mushrooms so anything that you take after the first hour of ingesting the initial dose is going to be a waste.
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champinhom
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Re: Disappointing experimental process. [Re: Shroomtrooper]
#22267361 - 09/20/15 10:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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maybe you could make it clearer how long the interval was between the two trips. The star date stuff is lost on most of us, so maybe just use conventional calendar values. If you didn't wait long enough between trips, that is going to bring you down. Also, if you were tired, that will certainly have a negative effect.
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Edited by champinhom (09/20/15 10:14 PM)
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Achillita
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Re: Disappointing experimental process. [Re: champinhom]
#22267604 - 09/20/15 11:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have no idea about star date stuff at all. But I'm guessing that it is based off of the number of days in a year and the year.
So it'd be 8 days, which is a reasonable waiting period.(but that's if I'm right)
But if you ate 43 grams fresh, and didn't trip at least decently hard, then it was most likely due to genetics of the mushrooms. And that 8 day wating period(depending on how you stored them) could have lost some of the potency.
However do you take any sort of medication?
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Re: Disappointing experimental process. [Re: Achillita]
#22268100 - 09/21/15 04:51 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's in calendar days.
There was 8 days between the ingestion.
Edit: No meds
They were from a first grow & were stunted & ugly, so I will assume some potency loss from that.
I would have to assume besides tired that not consuming all at once was a strong factor.
Storage should of been fine in a baggie in fridge. They were still very fresh.
I dried the other 70grs & we'll check them out in time.
I'm working on getting better results from my FC. Like everything else gain some knowledge & things get better.
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Edited by Shroomtrooper (09/21/15 04:52 AM)
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Bigfeely123
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Re: Disappointing experimental process. [Re: Shroomtrooper]
#22268250 - 09/21/15 07:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fix your dates to regular calendar dates if you want more help. No one here understands star dates. Mutations ("ugly mushrooms") don't effect potency. By "baggie" I assume you mean a sandwich baggie/plastic baggie. Don't store fresh mushrooms in a plastic bag. Use a brown paper bag. Make sure you dry the rest of the mushrooms under a fan for at the very least 24 hours, 2 days would be better. Then make a desiccant chamber with silica gel packets & store them in there for a few days. After they are CRACKER DRY then you can store them in a plastic baggie with a couple food safe silica gel packets. & Then put the baggie containing the now cracker dried mushrooms inside a glass canning jar for proper storage.
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Shroomtrooper
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Re: Disappointing experimental process. [Re: Shroomtrooper] 1
#22735301 - 01/04/16 10:25 AM (8 years, 27 days ago) |
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Update: I had done some experimenting with 10g -17g dry & got a little buzz but not much. I got frustrated & weighed out what I had left & was 25g dry. I made a lemon tek tea & took all 25g. OMFG it was awesome, it was like a 3-D laser light show with reality melting, my body & mind was blown away. That was my strongest trip ever. Can't wait to go there again.
I have been doing more reading & going to try grain & proper drying tek instead of dehydrator. tks guys
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Re: Disappointing experimental process. [Re: Shroomtrooper]
#22735340 - 01/04/16 10:32 AM (8 years, 27 days ago) |
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Damn dude!
10-17 dry grams barely felt anything?
You either have an insane tolerance or your cubenis are borderline portabellos! 
Or maybe a combo of both.
maybe u missed a decimal point?
I just cant believe it....
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Shroomtrooper
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Re: Disappointing experimental process. [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#22736227 - 01/04/16 03:51 PM (8 years, 27 days ago) |
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I don't understand it either I figure some is I'm 270lbs & used a dehydrator. I have another batch cakes growing of different variety, also going to air dry them this time. I'll start with a low dose & go from there. It's puzzling that 5g is suppose to be massive.
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Re: Disappointing experimental process. [Re: Shroomtrooper]
#22736664 - 01/04/16 05:57 PM (8 years, 26 days ago) |
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Quote:
Shroomtrooper said: different variety

if you grow from multispore long enough you'll have a weak batch, hard pill to swallow.
if you use agar you can isolate strong healthy growth. when you see a fruit you want to clone (early 1st flush cluster) clone it to agar, then eat the rest of the cluster when it matures to test it's potency. if it's bunk then throw that clone out, if it blows your mind then you have a good clone to work with (predictably good potency).
dehydrator drying at 160*F is the most legit way to dry. ~12 hours.
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Edited by filthyknees (01/04/16 06:13 PM)
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Shroomtrooper
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Re: Disappointing experimental process. [Re: filthyknees]
#22737149 - 01/04/16 08:25 PM (8 years, 26 days ago) |
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I have been reading up on agar & it seems awesome way to isolate & start batches. I found some petris, etc online just haven't made the order yet. I also want to get some filter bags & make poo substrate since it's available.
My dehydrator is not adjustable, sometime I will do a temp check. I probably could make an extension with a air-bleed to control temp.
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