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OfflineJanky Tits

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Re: Guns! [Re: Shiithead]
    #22262261 - 09/19/15 09:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

By no means am I submitting myself to the government and  choosing to be a slave to the system and allowing myself to be plugged into the Matrix. I'm wary of the government but overthrowing the government is simply not my purpose in this life and is not what I was meant for. I have other goals in life and I have people I love and care about and I do not want them to face the consequences of any actions I have taken agains the government.

I will however take no shit from them and will die as a freedom fighter before I'm a slave of theirs.


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Re: Guns! [Re: Janky Tits]
    #22262439 - 09/19/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Guns should only be used by women and old people really:shrug:


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Re: Guns! [Re: Konyap]
    #22262457 - 09/19/15 10:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Konyap said:
Guns should only be used by women and old people really:shrug:





Why should I not be able to own a gun to protect myself? Let's say I'm chuck norris and can defend myself against armed bad guys with my hands...why should I not have a gun to shoot for fun (one of my favorite activities btw)?


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Re: Guns! [Re: luvdemboomers]
    #22262496 - 09/19/15 10:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

because murder isn't friendly...
and if you do murder someone in self defense you basically make yourself a target to be murdered lol


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Re: Guns! [Re: Konyap]
    #22262557 - 09/19/15 10:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Konyap said:
Guns should only be used by women and old people really:shrug:




???

Phil Hartman was killed by his wife.


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Re: Guns! [Re: Shiithead]
    #22262560 - 09/19/15 10:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

guns r fun


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Re: Guns! [Re: Konyap]
    #22262575 - 09/19/15 10:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Konyap said:
because murder isn't friendly...
and if you do murder someone in self defense you basically make yourself a target to be murdered lol




why are you talking about murder?


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Re: Guns! [Re: koods]
    #22263132 - 09/20/15 01:21 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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koods said:
Quote:

makaveli8x8 said:
guns are the only thing to give any chance at all if the gov went total crazy.  Drinking the koolaid is the difference between being able to stand up, and bending over and taking it up the ass.

also its not excuses, its logic, and you've repeatedly been shown to not have any, at some point you should come to realize your better off not having an opinion because if your laws got wrote you wouldn't be able to have one anyway



It's just laughable when people think the founders ever considered the second amendment to be a remedy for a tyrannical US government. It was intended to arm the citizens to defend against foreign invasion - specially British attempts to retake its colonies.

If the founders wanted the citizens to have the ability to rise up against the U.S. Government, do you really think they would have made doing such a thing the ONLY crime specifically mentioned within the document? Taking up arms against the uS is called treason. Do you really think they would have made rising up against the government the only legitimate reason to strip citizens of their constitutional rights? Sedition is justification for suspension of habeus corpus.

If you actually read the constitution instead of falling for NRA PR campaigns, you would realize that the founders went out of their way to make sure citizens COULD NOT take up arms against the government.




funny your so quick to not give a shit about all the rest of the constitution, but when it comes to guns and treason all the sudden you care?  Also its only treason if its still the US, if its corrupted then its not really the US is it?


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Re: Guns! [Re: koods]
    #22263589 - 09/20/15 06:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

koods said:
It's just laughable when people think the founders ever considered the second amendment to be a remedy for a tyrannical US government.




What's laughable is your display of ignorance.

"To disarm the people...s the most effectual way to enslave them."
- George Mason, referencing advice given to the British Parliament by Pennsylvania governor Sir William Keith, The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adooption of the Federal Constitution, June 14, 1788

"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops."
- Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, October 10, 1787

"Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of."
- James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788

"...the ultimate authority, wherever the derivative may be found, resides in the people alone..."
- James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788

"What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty .... Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins."
- Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, I Annals of Congress 750, August 17, 1789

"If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state. In a single state, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair."
- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28

"f circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little, if at all, inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow-citizens. This appears to me the only substitute that can be devised for a standing army, and the best possible security against it, if it should exist."
- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28, January 10, 1788

"As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms."
- Tench Coxe, Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789


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Re: Guns! [Re: Janky Tits]
    #22264511 - 09/20/15 12:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Janky Tits said:
I hate violence and it is never the answer but I don't think banning guns is ok. Apparently gun prohibition works out ok in Europe but regardless I don't think going around taking peoples guns is alright. I never plan on killing anyone or plan on trying to use a gun for violence but I plan on owning one just in case and to protect my family and in case some shit ever goes down with the government.





the US has more and more guns in the public's hands each year and our violent crime rate is falling

europe has fewer guns in the public's hands and their violent crime rates are on the rise


which is 'working out OK'


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Re: Guns! [Re: Konyap] * 1
    #22264522 - 09/20/15 12:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Konyap said:
because murder isn't friendly...
and if you do murder someone in self defense you basically make yourself a target to be murdered lol





you cannot murder someone in self defense


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Re: Guns! [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22264596 - 09/20/15 12:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

luvdemshrooms said:
Quote:

koods said:
It's just laughable when people think the founders ever considered the second amendment to be a remedy for a tyrannical US government.




What's laughable is your display of ignorance.

"To disarm the people...s the most effectual way to enslave them."
- George Mason, referencing advice given to the British Parliament by Pennsylvania governor Sir William Keith, The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adooption of the Federal Constitution, June 14, 1788

"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops."
- Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, October 10, 1787

"Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of."
- James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788

"...the ultimate authority, wherever the derivative may be found, resides in the people alone..."
- James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788

"What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty .... Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins."
- Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, I Annals of Congress 750, August 17, 1789

"If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state. In a single state, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair."
- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28

"f circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little, if at all, inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow-citizens. This appears to me the only substitute that can be devised for a standing army, and the best possible security against it, if it should exist."
- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28, January 10, 1788

"As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms."
- Tench Coxe, Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789




Cool. We have plenty of nuts around now too. These guys didn't win the argument.

Seriously, explain to me why the constitution gives congress the right to strip away a citizens right to freedom in the case of sedition?

se·di·tion
səˈdiSH(ə)n/
noun
conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or monarch.


Also, CLOSE YOUR DAMN ITALICS TAGS


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Re: Guns! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #22264603 - 09/20/15 12:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)


My musket, :lol: Guns are cool.


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Re: Guns! [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22264628 - 09/20/15 12:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

makaveli8x8 said:
Quote:

koods said:
Quote:

makaveli8x8 said:
guns are the only thing to give any chance at all if the gov went total crazy.  Drinking the koolaid is the difference between being able to stand up, and bending over and taking it up the ass.

also its not excuses, its logic, and you've repeatedly been shown to not have any, at some point you should come to realize your better off not having an opinion because if your laws got wrote you wouldn't be able to have one anyway



It's just laughable when people think the founders ever considered the second amendment to be a remedy for a tyrannical US government. It was intended to arm the citizens to defend against foreign invasion - specially British attempts to retake its colonies.

If the founders wanted the citizens to have the ability to rise up against the U.S. Government, do you really think they would have made doing such a thing the ONLY crime specifically mentioned within the document? Taking up arms against the uS is called treason. Do you really think they would have made rising up against the government the only legitimate reason to strip citizens of their constitutional rights? Sedition is justification for suspension of habeus corpus.

If you actually read the constitution instead of falling for NRA PR campaigns, you would realize that the founders went out of their way to make sure citizens COULD NOT take up arms against the government.




funny your so quick to not give a shit about all the rest of the constitution, but when it comes to guns and treason all the sudden you care?  Also its only treason if its still the US, if its corrupted then its not really the US is it?




If it's corrupted and not really the US, the constitution doesn't rally matter, does it?


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Re: Guns! [Re: koods]
    #22264648 - 09/20/15 12:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

exactly so either way I win:obama:


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Re: Guns! [Re: koods]
    #22264677 - 09/20/15 12:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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koods said:
Seriously, explain to me why the constitution gives congress the right to strip away a citizens right to freedom in the case of sedition?

se·di·tion
səˈdiSH(ə)n/
noun
conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or monarch.




I'd suggest you look into it, but that'd be expecting too much from the same guy who thought the 2nd had nothing to do with an over-bearing government. Fuck, you say some stupid things.


Quote:

Also, CLOSE YOUR DAMN ITALICS TAGS




Go fuck yourself. Or is there some rule now that a butthurt mod who knows little about history can tell people which tag to use?


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Re: Guns! [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #22264713 - 09/20/15 12:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

FYI: This forum is much better with koods on ignore


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Re: Guns! [Re: luvdemboomers] * 1
    #22264722 - 09/20/15 12:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:blah:


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Re: Guns! [Re: luvdemboomers] * 1
    #22264725 - 09/20/15 12:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

lol wtf puppet account?


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Re: Guns! [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #22264739 - 09/20/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:lol: just noticed that.


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