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Ezuma
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You're clearly far more enlightened than me good sir. What gives you the impression my argument is unfounded? Enough with your 'read a history book' rhetoric. What worked 100 years ago won't necessarily work now. People tend to have an emotional attachment to their ideological stances, and so far that's what you've demonstrated to me, not a logical or well grounded argument at all. I don't even care that much about gun control, but in all honesty I don't trust the average citizen anymore than I do the government. What's so wrong with assessing who is and is not fit to own a lethal weapon anyway? The same is done for cars.
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Prisoner#1
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Shiithead said: Should they be outlawed??
I vote yes just because it makes you cry
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T-Funkadelic
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Even if guns were outlawed, it would just make me buy more of them, even though I own a lot of them anyway. I need more guns.
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ManianFH
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me too. got some serious firepower within 25 feet of me.
i have in incase of mongooses
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koods
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Bitter Cactus said: I'm from Canada and have never seen anyone with a gun. I don't think I have actually seen any guns besides on police officers and stuff like that.
No thugs I have hung with had guns.
Aside from cops, I've never seen anyone with a gun before either. They just aren't that common around here, and people that do have them have better sense to carry them around with them.
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MkUltra117
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Say we outlaw guns. Now your average law abiding, trained, armed citizen with registered firearms cant carry a firearm, but you still have all these lowlife criminals with illegal black market unregistered firearms still causing havoc robbing and killing, with no way to trace the gun back to who committed the crime.
Also how is said law abiding citizen suppose to defend themselves, say going into a bad neighborhood say in Detroit to do a delivery to a client or construction work or whatever?
Sooo im still trying to figure out how this is solving a problem. People will always find a way around laws ecspecially for illegal reasons...
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Shiithead
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nicechrisman
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I don't think anyone is talking about taking away guns from the average citizen. What we are talking about is accountability for said guns in the form of licensing and enhanced background checks to make sure that dangerous people don't get their hands on them.
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Konyap

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 Yeah fucking rite dude
either everyone get's access to guns or no one does
that's how the political system works!
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luvdemboomers
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nicechrisman said: I don't think anyone is talking about taking away guns from the average citizen. What we are talking about is accountability for said guns in the form of licensing and enhanced background checks to make sure that dangerous people don't get their hands on them.
You already are breaking federal law if you smoke marijuana and own firearms. What other restrictions should we ad to keep potheads and other lowlifes from owning them?
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T-Funkadelic
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Really doesn't matter what gun laws they make. They'll just be broken like the rest of all the other laws lol. Make something illegal, it just makes a bigger demand for it and that will just lead to more violence.
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nicechrisman
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Gun laws can't make it completely impossible for someone to get a gun, but what they can do is make it a lot less likely for unfit people to be able to impulsively get one.
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MkUltra117
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Ya look at prohibition. It didnt solve anything
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nicechrisman
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Nobody is talking about prohibiting guns. We are talking about making greater accountability for those who own them, and making it more difficult for mentally ill and violent people to buy them.
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Re: Guns! [Re: koods]
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koods said:
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Bitter Cactus said: I'm from Canada and have never seen anyone with a gun. I don't think I have actually seen any guns besides on police officers and stuff like that.
No thugs I have hung with had guns.
Aside from cops, I've never seen anyone with a gun before either.
how do you know... the point behind concealed carry is to be discrete, to make it look like you arent carrying because when you carry concealed you dont feel like alarming the more delicate members of the general pubic
I know a guy that is always open carry, no one pays him any attention around here
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Janky Tits

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I hate violence and it is never the answer but I don't think banning guns is ok. Apparently gun prohibition works out ok in Europe but regardless I don't think going around taking peoples guns is alright. I never plan on killing anyone or plan on trying to use a gun for violence but I plan on owning one just in case and to protect my family and in case some shit ever goes down with the government.
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nicechrisman
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In case you are ever in the position to commit treason against the United States?
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T-Funkadelic
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I conceal carry with a permit in my state, and if guns were outlawed I would just be an outlaw packing heat as usual.
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Janky Tits

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nicechrisman said: In case you are ever in the position to commit treason against the United States?
For a while now I've been convinced the government is evil and plans on having authoritarian control over us so I thought if some sort of regime tries to take power and control us all and if enough citizens have guns we might be able to pick a fight with them and be able to over throw them.
However I'm a peace loving person and rather not involve myself in any anarchy related activities. I'm a libertarian for the most part and despise the government, establishments, and our culture but I don't think in my life time I would try to overthrow the government or support some violent plot to do so. If something like that were to happen however I would go out and put up a fight against the Government. But despite knowing our Government is fucked up I just rather not deal with that. I want to live my life out in peace with my friends and the people I love. I'm not really a fighter.
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Shiithead
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Janky Tits said:
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nicechrisman said: In case you are ever in the position to commit treason against the United States?
For a while now I've been convinced the government is evil and plans on having authoritarian control over us so I thought if some sort of regime tries to take power and control us all and if enough citizens have guns we might be able to pick a fight with them and be able to over throw them.
However I'm a peace loving person and rather not involve myself in any anarchy related activities. I'm a libertarian for the most part and despise the government, establishments, and our culture but I don't think in my life time I would try to overthrow the government or support some violent plot to do so. If something like that were to happen however I would go out and put up a fight against the Government. But despite knowing our Government is fucked up I just rather not deal with that. I want to live my life out in peace with my friends and the people I love. I'm not really a fighter.
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