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#22258695 - 09/19/15 12:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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"because they messed up" "Because its the law" "because they are stupid"
What mindset do the ones of you have that say that? You honestly approve of the drug war.....you honestly think these peoples life should be ruined over what others have deemed a mistake?
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Bitter Cactus thinks that
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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: Sheekle]
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I mean theres a certain brand of scum bag drug dealers that prob deserve prison yes.
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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: vandago]
#22258715 - 09/19/15 12:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Imprisoning drug offenders does nothing to combat the spread of drugs. The war on drugs is unwinnable anyway.
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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
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WHat constitutes a drug bag scum dealer? Does it depend on the drugs he is selling, or his wreckless behavior? I could understand someone that robs people and hurts people, but they should go to prison for that......not the drugs.
And bitter cactus is just a sad lonely troll.
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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: vandago]
#22258719 - 09/19/15 12:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I would like to put lobbyists for drug companies in jail. Or save the money, just shoot 'em
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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: vandago]
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"DESERVE" Well it depends. If they are selling cocaine/powders and they cut it then they dont truly care about providing a pure clean product and are not severing the people but rather themselves. These people in my opinion dont need to be on the streets causing more , and more harm. I understand people who want the hard drugs will seek them out but the people they buy it from are not concerned with the product they are distributing. They can stay locked up for all i care. Those who do believe in being a better person makes all the difference.
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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: vandago]
#22258721 - 09/19/15 01:04 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The type that do evil things to people and thier community for money. they type that intentionally manipulate the weak the kinda person that strings some one out to milk every dollar they can off the other persons soul. The hurt more people than jus the users infact they riun entire communites of people.
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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#22258763 - 09/19/15 01:35 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Jail sucks. In no way does it teach reform. Its a place where a multitude of all walks of life, get thrown together, innocent and guilty, to get mistreated by corrections officers. Eat crap food. Sleep on shit beds, and not get to see the sun. It blows. Not to mention the system is so over crowded, snd its someones job, they get paid for, to judge peoples lives and reign supreme over it. Alot of people who dont deserve to be there, are there.
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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#22258786 - 09/19/15 01:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: I mean theres a certain brand of scum bag drug dealers that prob deserve prison yes.
If this is the case then they'll get arrested for something else that is worth being arrested for. If not than they're probably juat a shitty person who i will never associate with so they will have absolutely no impact on my life.
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#22259223 - 09/19/15 07:30 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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vandago said: "because they messed up" "Because its the law" "because they are stupid"
What mindset do the ones of you have that say that? You honestly approve of the drug war.....you honestly think these peoples life should be ruined over what others have deemed a mistake?
                          
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#22259246 - 09/19/15 07:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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IMO dealers who misrepresent drugs deserve to go to jail, especially where this deception puts lives at risk. Otherwise no.
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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: vandago]
#22259252 - 09/19/15 07:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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vandago said: "because they messed up" "Because its the law" "because they are stupid"
What mindset do the ones of you have that say that? You honestly approve of the drug war.....you honestly think these peoples life should be ruined over what others have deemed a mistake?
These people are just not informed as you are.
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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#22259275 - 09/19/15 07:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: The type that do evil things to people and thier community for money. they type that intentionally manipulate the weak the kinda person that strings some one out to milk every dollar they can off the other persons soul. The hurt more people than jus the users infact they riun entire communites of people.
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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: vandago]
#22259379 - 09/19/15 08:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Good. Some drug (ab)users can just get arrested and get a free bed, toilet and 3 square meals a day.
Let the taxpayers house them and feed them. Because we don't have more important things to spend money on.
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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: vandago]
#22259398 - 09/19/15 08:55 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I got TWELVE YEARS of probation for sitting in a car that also contained drugs - mdma, ketamine, mushrooms & lsd.
Apparently I could have KILLED someone in Texas and gotten a better deal:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/leticiamiranda/texas-man-gets-10-years-probation-for-death-of-transgender-w#.vy1YYnbvkw

fuck the drug war + all those who contribute to perpetuating the mass incarceration of non-violent drug offenders.
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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: vandago]
#22259466 - 09/19/15 09:27 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm with you brother. I know we have a mutual friend who is looking at some time and that shit sucks.
And yes BC is a sad troll.
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vandago said: WHat constitutes a drug bag scum dealer? Does it depend on the drugs he is selling, or his wreckless behavior? I could understand someone that robs people and hurts people, but they should go to prison for that......not the drugs.
And bitter cactus is just a sad lonely troll.
Labeling. If you put fentanyl in the dope tell the customer. Tell them what strengh it is. Truth in marketing. People die when they don't get accurate labeling information.
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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: zappaisgod]
#22259547 - 09/19/15 10:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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nah dewd people brand bags everyone noes what the strong stamps are. Theres alot worse things than selling strong drugs.
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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: nicechrisman]
#22259552 - 09/19/15 10:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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with the law and order crowd who think it's justifiable to send drug users to prison simply because they are breaking the law, the key question is this:
is a law good because it is a law or because it is good?
from there it's generally pretty easy to demonstrate that drug laws are bad and therefore punishing people under bad laws is bad too.
with the crowd who think drug usage of any kind carries some sort of implicit negative moral value, the burden of proof is on them to demonstrate why that is. usually this involves bringing the problem of addiction (and everything that follows from addiction) into the discussion. it's easy to point out that they are conflating regular usage with addiction and that the two are not the same, and then start comparing various other sorts of legalized drug usage (alcohol, caffeine, nicotine, otc sleep aids etc.) with illegal drug usage in order to keep the burden of proving why regular usage of illegal drugs is implicitly bad in comparison with legal drug usage, which most usually view as either morally good (because it is legal) or morally neutral, on them. this can be a bit trickier of a conversation, but once you separate addiction from usage it becomes hard to defend the "drugs usage is immoral" point of view. but even with keeping the problem of addiction in the picture, it's fairly easy to demonstrate why locking up addicts and stigmatizing them is a poor strategy for dealing with it.
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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
#22260020 - 09/19/15 12:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: nah dewd people brand bags everyone noes what the strong stamps are. Theres alot worse things than selling strong drugs.
Then how come so many of them are ODing these days?
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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: zappaisgod]
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been listening to this and about to take some bong rips
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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: zappaisgod]
#22260524 - 09/19/15 02:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said:
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: nah dewd people brand bags everyone noes what the strong stamps are. Theres alot worse things than selling strong drugs.
Then how come so many of them are ODing these days?
Fentanyl analog cuts from China. It devastated a lot of CT, NY, and NJ. Articles are posted in the News Service subforum. Something like 80 deaths in 2 months in Willimantic CT.
There is the underlying factor of personal responsibility. No one holds a gun to another person's head and makes the burgle and rob innocent people for his or her addiction(s).
If violence is involved then yes, send them away. I've personally only encountered two firearms during marijuana transactions and they were pea shooting 22's and never used.
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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: Peachette]
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Puritan values man, everything goes back to puritan values...
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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: Konyap]
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Konyap said: Puritan values man, everything goes back to puritan values...
and racism.
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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: moonrockmushy]
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I'm pretty convinced the numbers are fudged for racial profiling. It happens a lot, lot more in my experience and I've lived in 9 different states in affluent areas and poverty stricken areas. It's pretty common to see a white guy in impoverished areas at 2am getting popped because he "doesn't belong amongst those people".
But surely a black man at any time of day is going to get stopped even if he was Jesus Christ reborn saving a kid from a fire while disarming terrorists.
Edited by Peachette (09/19/15 08:50 PM)
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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: Peachette]
#22262190 - 09/19/15 09:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah you're probably racist.
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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: moonrockmushy]
#22262427 - 09/19/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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people will take a mature drug dealer over a immature nerd almost any day
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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: moonrockmushy]
#22262508 - 09/19/15 10:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: Yeah you're probably racist.
The message I was conveying is that I'm sure numbers are fudged in favor of racist cops. With current events being what they are, it's painfully obvious racist cops abound and we are all educated enough to know whites use a lot more drugs than other "races" and get away with it. Whether it is incarceration or harassment or killing innocent people.
It's a damn shame. 
I'm on 8 hours of sleep in the last 72 hours and new to mobile posting. My apologies that it came off the wrong way. I did not mean to offend and I hope it didn't upset you.
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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: Peachette]
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Naw I just like calling people racist. It's one of my hobbies. No sweat.
appreciate you clearing it up and not getting defensive you're probably not racist
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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: moonrockmushy]
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As a Native American, you wouldn't believe all the questions I get.
A short summary of FAQ's.
"Do you all have long black hair?"
"How can you be Native American if you have blue eyes?"
"Are you all that tan?"
"I saw a pale skinned Indian. Is that the albino kind?"
"What's the difference between you people and people from India?"
"Do they make you stay on reservations?"
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"Which casino pays you to still be alive?"
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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: Peachette]
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Haruko Haruhara said: As a Native American, you wouldn't believe all the questions I get.
A short summary of FAQ's.
"Do you all have long black hair?"
"How can you be Native American if you have blue eyes?"
"Are you all that tan?"
"I saw a pale skinned Indian. Is that the albino kind?"
"What's the difference between you people and people from India?"
"Do they make you stay on reservations?"
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"Which casino pays you to still be alive?"

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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: psi]
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psi said: IMO dealers who misrepresent drugs deserve to go to jail, especially where this deception puts lives at risk. Otherwise no.
Ok this 100%. But I think there should be a harsher charge then drug trafficking for this. people who sell bath salts as molly or 25 i as LSD should be charged with something similar to manslaughter. Maybe "potential manslaughter" Because those kind of drugs taken on the wrong meds, or taken by the wrong person can KILL them.
When I say a drug dealer. I mean someone who is legit. Quality stuff, Treats their customers with respect, doesn't boast and treat the lesser like shit. Doesn't price gouge or cut his shit. Your random college kid who told too many people about his mushroom grow......or like someone who gets pulled over at 3 am with drugs.
Those kinds of people do not deserve the harsh sentences they get.
Some people make mistakes.....like keeping drugs in their purse......but drugs should be ALLOWED to be kept in your purse.....it shouldn't matter.
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Sheekle said: Bitter Cactus thinks that
I've grown fond of cactus. I use to think he was a douche but he is chill.
I think Cactus' view point was shaped by him being a meth addict or whatever and he is just really careful and weary of drugs. Can't blame him.
I learned yesterday from the mushrooms that you don't really need drugs to be the best you can be. Drugs definitively help us but the most important thing is our initiative and drive to make things happen and at the end of the day it's up to us to make our lives better. More then half the time it is us who is stopping us from making ourselves better and it's not a magic pill that's going to fix all that. The mushrooms aren't a magic pill, they show you what you are doing wrong and help you explore ways to fix it but it is up to us to make it happen.
Sorry I got carried away in this long ass speech but I just needed to get that off my chest.
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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: Peachette]
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Haruko Haruhara said: As a Native American, you wouldn't believe all the questions I get.
A short summary of FAQ's.
"Do you all have long black hair?"
"How can you be Native American if you have blue eyes?"
"Are you all that tan?"
"I saw a pale skinned Indian. Is that the albino kind?"
"What's the difference between you people and people from India?"
"Do they make you stay on reservations?"
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"Which casino pays you to still be alive?"

Oh I believe it. I thought you were saying that cops target white people more, but I probably could have taken more time to actually read what you said. Sorry for jumping to conclusions.
There's a couple really outspoken people here who think that white people are the biggest victims of racism in America, and I get called racist because I disagree with that. I do my best to promote basic human equality, but sometimes I put my foot in my mouth too I guess 
From what I've read in my studies I believe that racism played a huge role in prohibition being instituted, and to this day I think it still plays a huge part.
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How can america claim to be the 'land of the free'
yet its citizens get thrown in cells all the time for simply possessing certain substances that they would have liked to consume?
Not even free enough to choose what goes into your own body
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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: MilkdudTitties]
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MilkdudTitties said: How can america claim to be the 'land of the free'
yet its citizens get thrown in cells all the time for simply possessing certain substances that they would have liked to consume?
Not even free enough to choose what goes into your own body
Freedom isn't free. It costs a shit load of freedom.
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