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People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. * 1
    #22258695 - 09/19/15 12:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

"because they messed up" "Because its the law" "because they are stupid"


What mindset do the ones of you have that say that?  You honestly approve of the drug war.....you honestly think these peoples life should be ruined over what others have deemed a mistake?


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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: vandago] * 2
    #22258699 - 09/19/15 12:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Bitter Cactus thinks that


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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: Sheekle]
    #22258707 - 09/19/15 12:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I mean theres a certain brand of scum bag drug dealers that prob deserve prison yes.


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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: vandago]
    #22258715 - 09/19/15 12:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Imprisoning drug offenders does nothing to combat the spread of drugs. The war on drugs is unwinnable anyway.


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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22258716 - 09/19/15 12:30 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

WHat constitutes a drug bag scum dealer?  Does it depend on the drugs he is selling, or his wreckless behavior? I could understand someone that robs people and hurts people, but they should go to prison for that......not the drugs.

And bitter cactus is just a sad lonely troll.


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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: vandago]
    #22258719 - 09/19/15 12:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I would like to put lobbyists for drug companies in jail.  Or save the money, just shoot 'em :sadyes:


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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: vandago]
    #22258720 - 09/19/15 01:03 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

"DESERVE" Well it depends. If they are selling cocaine/powders and they cut it then they dont truly care about providing a pure clean product and are not severing the people but rather themselves. These people in my opinion dont need to be on the streets causing more , and more harm. I understand people who want the hard drugs will seek them out but the people they buy it from are not concerned with the product they are distributing. They can stay locked up for all i care. Those who do believe in being a better person makes all the difference.


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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: vandago]
    #22258721 - 09/19/15 01:04 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The type that do evil things to people and thier community for money. they type that intentionally manipulate the weak the kinda person that strings some one out to milk every dollar they can off the other persons soul. The hurt more people than jus the users infact they riun entire communites of people.


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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22258763 - 09/19/15 01:35 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Jail sucks. In no way does it teach reform. Its a place where a multitude of all walks of life, get thrown together, innocent and guilty, to get mistreated by corrections officers. Eat crap food. Sleep on shit beds, and not get to see the sun. It blows. Not to mention the system is so over crowded, snd its someones job, they get paid for, to judge peoples lives and reign supreme over it. Alot of people who dont deserve to be there, are there.


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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22258786 - 09/19/15 01:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
I mean theres a certain brand of scum bag drug dealers that prob deserve prison yes.



If this is the case then they'll get arrested for something else that is worth being arrested for. If not than they're probably juat a shitty person who i will never associate with so they will have absolutely no impact on my life.:shrug:


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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: vandago] * 1
    #22259223 - 09/19/15 07:30 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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vandago said:
"because they messed up" "Because its the law" "because they are stupid"


What mindset do the ones of you have that say that?  You honestly approve of the drug war.....you honestly think these peoples life should be ruined over what others have deemed a mistake?



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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: vandago] * 4
    #22259246 - 09/19/15 07:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

IMO dealers who misrepresent drugs deserve to go to jail, especially where this deception puts lives at risk. Otherwise no.


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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: vandago]
    #22259252 - 09/19/15 07:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

vandago said:
"because they messed up" "Because its the law" "because they are stupid"


What mindset do the ones of you have that say that?  You honestly approve of the drug war.....you honestly think these peoples life should be ruined over what others have deemed a mistake?




These people are just not informed as you are.


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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #22259275 - 09/19/15 07:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

CHeifM4sterDiezL said:
The type that do evil things to people and thier community for money. they type that intentionally manipulate the weak the kinda person that strings some one out to milk every dollar they can off the other persons soul. The hurt more people than jus the users infact they riun entire communites of people.




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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: vandago]
    #22259379 - 09/19/15 08:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Good. Some drug (ab)users can just get arrested and get a free bed, toilet and 3 square meals a day.

Let the taxpayers house them and feed them. Because we don't have more important things to spend money on. :rolleyes:


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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: vandago]
    #22259398 - 09/19/15 08:55 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I got TWELVE YEARS of probation for sitting in a car that also contained drugs - mdma, ketamine, mushrooms & lsd.

Apparently I could have KILLED someone in Texas and gotten a better deal:


http://www.buzzfeed.com/leticiamiranda/texas-man-gets-10-years-probation-for-death-of-transgender-w#.vy1YYnbvkw

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fuck the drug war + all those who contribute to perpetuating the mass incarceration of non-violent drug offenders.


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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: vandago]
    #22259466 - 09/19/15 09:27 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'm with you brother. I know we have a mutual friend who is looking at some time and that shit sucks.

And yes BC is a sad troll.


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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: vandago] * 4
    #22259516 - 09/19/15 09:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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vandago said:
WHat constitutes a drug bag scum dealer?  Does it depend on the drugs he is selling, or his wreckless behavior? I could understand someone that robs people and hurts people, but they should go to prison for that......not the drugs.

And bitter cactus is just a sad lonely troll.




Labeling.  If you put fentanyl in the dope tell the customer.  Tell them what strengh it is.  Truth in marketing.  People die when they don't get accurate labeling information.


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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #22259547 - 09/19/15 10:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

nah dewd people brand bags everyone noes what the strong stamps are. :shrug: Theres alot worse things than selling strong drugs.


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Re: People that honestly think people DESERVE to go to prison for anything drug related. [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22259552 - 09/19/15 10:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

with the law and order crowd who think it's justifiable to send drug users to prison simply because they are breaking the law, the key question is this:

is a law good because it is a law or because it is good?

from there it's generally pretty easy to demonstrate that drug laws are bad and therefore punishing people under bad laws is bad too.

with the crowd who think drug usage of any kind carries some sort of implicit negative moral value, the burden of proof is on them to demonstrate why that is. usually this involves bringing the problem of addiction (and everything that follows from addiction) into the discussion. it's easy to point out that they are conflating regular usage with addiction and that the two are not the same, and then start comparing various other sorts of legalized drug usage (alcohol, caffeine, nicotine, otc sleep aids etc.) with illegal drug usage in order to keep the burden of proving why regular usage of illegal drugs is implicitly bad in comparison with legal drug usage, which most usually view as either morally good (because it is legal) or morally neutral, on them. this can be a bit trickier of a conversation, but once you separate addiction from usage it becomes hard to defend the "drugs usage is immoral" point of view. but even with keeping the problem of addiction in the picture, it's fairly easy to demonstrate why locking up addicts and stigmatizing them is a poor strategy for dealing with it.


Edited by millzy (09/19/15 10:08 AM)


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