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Re: I am going straight edge [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22262376 - 09/19/15 09:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

BC already said prescriptions don't count... so..... :shrug:


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Re: I am going straight edge [Re: Detached]
    #22262377 - 09/19/15 09:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

http://sxeworldwide.tumblr.com/Edge-FAQ

^ best straight edge guideline I could find



Just read the new reply.

If you are abusing your prescribed meds you will run into problems. If you follow your doctors instructions that is really the best line of action for your health. Your dad lost his house for taking his opiate script as prescribed? Also, snorting meds is not taking as prescribed.


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Re: I am going straight edge [Re: Bitter Cactus] * 1
    #22262385 - 09/19/15 09:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Straight edge is a youth movement and community based around the values of punk culture. What we have in common is a life-long commitment to live without drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, and abusive / addictive sexuality.

That is pretty punk.. :rolleyes:


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Re: I am going straight edge [Re: Detached]
    #22262402 - 09/19/15 09:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

"Can Straight Edge kids have sex?
Every day if they want to. But lot’s of people use Straight Edge as an excuse to not have sex, and that’s not healthy"


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Re: I am going straight edge [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22262423 - 09/19/15 10:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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If you are abusing your prescribed meds you will run into problems. If you follow your doctors instructions that is really the best line of action for your health. Your dad lost his house for taking his opiate script as prescribed? Also, snorting meds is not taking as prescribed.





So your doctor is cool with you skipping days of taking your meds so that other days they are "more effective" (or so you actually get a buzz?)


I doubt it. I'm certain you are prescribed "x amount per day at x time"


You are seriously in denial bud.


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Re: I am going straight edge [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22262429 - 09/19/15 10:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Your dad lost his house for taking his opiate script as prescribed?



Yup. His doctor was later sued by nearly a dozen other patients of his; the doctor later committed suicide...

Just because it's prescribed doesn't make it not a drug, and it doesn't make you not a drug user, and it doesn't make you not an addict. And it sure as hell doesn't make you fucking "straight-edge" lol




Sounds like a corrupt doctor.

That doctor does not mean all are bad. That line of thinking is flawed.



I do not skip days for a buzz.

You get tolerance over time taking meds, I give my tolerance a break so it is more effective from my ADD. Like I said if I wanted to tweak I would have to take my entire month script and it would be fucking lame. If I wanted to tweak I would take a fifteen minute walk from my school and score.

I am not interested in getting high. I want long term management of my symptoms and taking days off is a good thing. I rarely do it though cause I have a full course load, but over winter break I might.



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Re: I am going straight edge [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22262435 - 09/19/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So your script tells you to skip days so that you can mantain lower tolerance and ultimately have more effective medicine?

Or are you full of shit and contradicting what your doctor said, and actually are not "taking it as prescribed"


I bet the latter...whats your script amount and schedule?


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Re: I am going straight edge [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #22262442 - 09/19/15 10:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Taking less then prescribed is always a good thing.

If you get a xanax script that says take it every day and you take it less and only as needed, props to you.


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Re: I am going straight edge [Re: Bitter Cactus] * 1
    #22262463 - 09/19/15 10:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Taking less then prescribed is always a good thing.

If you get a xanax script that says take it every day and you take it less and only as needed, props to you.





That is not following your prescription. You also blatantly ignored my questions. Keep living in denial and altering your thoughts and words to please your own actions.

You also said you don't believe in ADD, but are now a fully diagnosed ADD patient. Coincidentally, it is after you stopped your meth addiction that this suddenly became your reality.

:loldongs:


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Re: I am going straight edge [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22262464 - 09/19/15 10:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

There is no physical dependence on stims tho.

Psychologically maybe to get my homework done, but then again I could not get anything done when I had ADD and was not diagnosed.


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Re: I am going straight edge [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22262466 - 09/19/15 10:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:lol: tell that to my doctor.

With controlled drugs you can definitely lose access to your script if you are taking it not as prescribed.  That is an issue because it encourages diversion as well as a definite "high" that would be less likely to occur if you were stable on those meds, as other people have said.

If you bottle says "As needed" then you can take it as you like.  If you bottle says, "take X tablet(s) daily" then you are going against your doctors orders to do otherwise.


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Re: I am going straight edge [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22262469 - 09/19/15 10:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Okay boys I'll just take it daily then jeeze! Any more questions or concerns?


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Re: I am going straight edge [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22262482 - 09/19/15 10:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I have one more question.  Do you have any connection to the punk music from which straight edge originated?  Seems you're more into stoner rock.


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Re: I am going straight edge [Re: Bitter Cactus] * 1
    #22262488 - 09/19/15 10:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I have a question.

Do you think you'll ever come down off that high horse?


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Re: I am going straight edge [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
    #22262529 - 09/19/15 10:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I already said I was excited about my decision and was gonna strut my feathers a little bit.

Now I am done with that. I am who I am and this is what is best for me, it is not gonna be what is best for you. We all make choices and they all have consequences. I just want to share mutual respect with everyone here.


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Re: I am going straight edge [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22262543 - 09/19/15 10:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:goodluckwiththat2:


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Re: I am going straight edge [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
    #22262568 - 09/19/15 10:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

BC, I really hope you continue your success with your addiction recovery process. But I've noticed that people who feel like they are most entitled to speak on these issues with addiction and righteousness are usually the first ones to relapse


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Re: I am going straight edge [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22262587 - 09/19/15 10:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think there is potential for another 20 pages


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Re: I am going straight edge [Re: Detached]
    #22262614 - 09/19/15 10:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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BC, I really hope you continue your success with your addiction recovery process. But I've noticed that people who feel like they are most entitled to speak on these issues with addiction and righteousness are usually the first ones to relapse




Yeah I had that experience when I got off opiates.  I thought I was the shit and could just go out and manhandle the world, which I did for a while, but then when that didn't work out like planned I ended up breaking down.  I was actually clean too, for 18 months.

Like what happens if his doctor decides that BC is doing well enough that he can start to taper down or switch to something less addictive?  That happens all the time, at least with "good" doctors.  He is essentially self-diagnosed and just found a doctor that would cooperate with his self-medication desires, but that could change.  I don't think BC will be so into his doctor when that happens.

Maybe it will be something else, and maybe he will make it work and go on to be happy and successful, but he seems totally ignorant that he is still under the influence of addictive drugs and would suffer some amount of fallout if he was cut off.

Also psychosis is always a risk, and we might even be seeing some symptoms of underlying illness being agitated by the ADD meds here.  Definitely seems kinda delusional and manic.  Some people seriously break down from too much caffiene, but with amphetamines and it's analogues the likelihood of that and the potential risks are much higher.

Say his doctor notices high blood pressure and decides to take him off his meds.  What then?  Could he hack it?  I almost hope that he sticks around so that we can find out, but I am a drama whore with a cold and bitter heart.


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Re: I am going straight edge [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22262635 - 09/19/15 10:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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BC, I really hope you continue your success with your addiction recovery process. But I've noticed that people who feel like they are most entitled to speak on these issues with addiction and righteousness are usually the first ones to relapse




Yeah I had that experience when I got off opiates.  I thought I was the shit and could just go out and manhandle the world, which I did for a while, but then when that didn't work out like planned I ended up breaking down.  I was actually clean too, for 18 months.

Like what happens if his doctor decides that BC is doing well enough that he can start to taper down or switch to something less addictive?  That happens all the time, at least with "good" doctors.  He is essentially self-diagnosed and just found a doctor that would cooperate with his self-medication desires, but that could change.  I don't think BC will be so into his doctor when that happens.

Maybe it will be something else, and maybe he will make it work and go on to be happy and successful, but he seems totally ignorant that he is still under the influence of addictive drugs and would suffer some amount of fallout if he was cut off.

Also psychosis is always a risk, and we might even be seeing some symptoms of underlying illness being agitated by the ADD meds here.  Definitely seems kinda delusional and manic.  Some people seriously break down from too much caffiene, but with amphetamines and it's analogues the likelihood of that and the potential risks are much higher.

Say his doctor notices high blood pressure and decides to take him off his meds.  What then?  Could he hack it?  I almost hope that he sticks around so that we can find out, but I am a drama whore with a cold and bitter heart.




I know everyone is waiting for my fall, but each day I am sober I am proving them wrong.

Fuck the doubters, fuck the haters, I am staying sober and I am serious about it.


I know you guys would just get a sick pleasure from me relapsing though. :thumbdown:


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