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Re: Intensive/Extensive marine aquaculture pond(s) [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #22291111 - 09/25/15 11:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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also the main issue with the "sea" is all the fertilizers and what not that is concentrated in there. and well, east/south valley in general.




it is this very agricultural runoff that my plan takes advantage of. Giant Kelp(Macrocystis pyrifera) grows super fast, and is restricted in range by water temp.  except that its not the temp that causes the restriction per se, but rather the lower nutrient levels associated with warmer waters in the ocean.  That being said, i feel like temp is the variable i'm not sure how to account for yet.  on the one hand, we're talking about a body of water in the hot ass desert sun.  On the other hand, there would be constant cycle of pumped groundwater entering the system, and its likely to be a stable cool temp.  i'm not sure where the sweet spot would lay.

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M. pyrifera has been utilized for many years as a food source;[18][19] it also contains many compounds such as iodine, potassium, other minerals vitamins and carbohydrates and thus has also used as a dietary supplement.[20][21] In the beginning of the 20th century California kelp beds were harvested as a source for soda ash.[18][22][23] With commercial interest increasing significantly during the 1970s and the 1980s this was primarily due to the production of alginates, and also for biomass production for animal feed due to the energy crisis during that period.[22][23][24] However the commercial production of M. pyrifera never became reality. With the end of the energy crisis and the decline in prices of alginates, the research into farming Macrocystis also declined.[19]

The demand for M. pyrifera is increasing due to the newfound uses of these plants such as fertilizers, cultivation for bioremediation purposes, abalone and sea urchin feed.[19][25] There is current research going into utilizing M. pyrifera as feed for other aquaculture species such as shrimps.[25][26] Recently, M. pyrifera has been examined as a possible feedstock for conversion into ethanol for biofuel use.[27]




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Re: Intensive/Extensive marine aquaculture pond(s) [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22291978 - 09/26/15 06:41 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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ARGH! thats the opposite of tearing the idea a new asshole. :crankey: try again!




Well, I'm not gonna pretend I know what I'm talking about  either...


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Re: Tear this idea a new asshole [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22292125 - 09/26/15 07:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I like the idea and I like intelligent posts in the pub.

I won't pick it apart just give a thumbs up not only for thinking but for asking it to be picked apart.  This sort of thinking is what we need to move forward in this world.  If this is what I think it is, Self sustainable eco friendly solutions to mankinds problems then I can only praise you.


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Re: Intensive/Extensive marine aquaculture pond(s) [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22292133 - 09/26/15 07:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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:bumpthread: for great justice





For great justice :makesmecry:


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Re: Intensive/Extensive marine aquaculture pond(s) [Re: Asante]
    #22292392 - 09/26/15 09:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

awesome, i have convinced strangers on the internet.  now i have to convince the gov't, a bank or two, and a university.


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Re: Intensive/Extensive marine aquaculture pond(s) [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22292654 - 09/26/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I dunno anything about the aquaponics, but I distinctly recall seeing a similar setup on Doomsday Preppers a long time ago that seemed like it was pretty effective. :lol: It was pretty much one of the only reasonably intelligent preppers I've ever seen on that show. I'm fairly certain it was this guy.


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Re: Intensive/Extensive marine aquaculture pond(s) [Re: Cj-B]
    #22302464 - 09/28/15 11:49 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i've thought about renting pool/yard space from old folk around LA to use as modular aquaponic farms.  It would be a good deal for everyone really.  Most people pay someone to maintain their pool, but never actually go for a swim (especially older people) People on fixed incomes could actually use their pool and yard space to generate some income while eliminating gardening and pool maintenance bills.


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Re: Intensive/Extensive marine aquaculture pond(s) [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22302470 - 09/28/15 11:51 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I thought about something different. Aquaponic gardens with trout in the water.


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Re: Intensive/Extensive marine aquaculture pond(s) [Re: Roostertail]
    #22302504 - 09/28/15 11:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

trout could be done, but they require low water temps.  in some places thats easy to do, in other places you would have to run massive chillers to cool the water.  also, trout require pretty good current.


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Re: Intensive/Extensive marine aquaculture pond(s) [Re: Patlal]
    #22302542 - 09/28/15 12:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I am not sufficiently competent and educated in that field to know if this is a good or bad idea.

You used big words and drew up something, therefore it must be realistic.




Lol this^^

OP is this something that you can see becoming profitable in the long run or would this just be like a hobby/experiment/...? I think 99.9% of people starting their own business are looking to make a profit in the long run, or at least break even when all is said and done. Even the CEO's and employees of "non profit organizations" still get payed one way or another.
15% sure that the CEO's of such organizations actually don't keep some of the profits to themselves.


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Re: Intensive/Extensive marine aquaculture pond(s) [Re: Roostertail]
    #22302606 - 09/28/15 12:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I thought about something different. Aquaponic gardens with trout in the water.




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Re: Intensive/Extensive marine aquaculture pond(s) [Re: lets drive around] * 1
    #22302658 - 09/28/15 12:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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OP is this something that you can see becoming profitable in the long run or would this just be like a hobby/experiment/...? I think 99.9% of people starting their own business are looking to make a profit in the long run, or at least break even when all is said and done.




If the experiment was successful, and i could establish something resembling my hypothetical ecosystem, there is no doubt in my mind about the long term profitablility of this project.  After initial investment, there is very little input cost.  Thats the whole point. Low input, high output farming of desirable bio materials (fish, shrimp, and kelp).  If i had initial success, there is no reason that i couldn't expand into oyster and/or abalone production as well. (except perhaps temperature restrictions, i would have to research that a bit)


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Re: Intensive/Extensive marine aquaculture pond(s) [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22302948 - 09/28/15 01:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Right on brother! Sounds like you have a semi plan going. Possibly a very good one too. I say go with it, if you can get the funds for a start up.

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Re: Intensive/Extensive marine aquaculture pond(s) [Re: lets drive around]
    #22305444 - 09/28/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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if you can get the funds for a start up.





One day! That's why i'm going to school.  I figure having credentials might give me some credibility with banks, or at least with the dept of agriculture(gotta get those ag grants son!)


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Re: Intensive/Extensive marine aquaculture pond(s) [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22308115 - 09/29/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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if you can get the funds for a start up.





One day! That's why i'm going to school.  I figure having credentials might give me some credibility with banks, or at least with the dept of agriculture(gotta get those ag grants son!)




Having credentials/education is great but that won't get you a loan man.

What will get you a loan is having good credit. I'm sure you already know that, but if you don't that's the most important part when trying to qualify to borrow any sort of money from a bank.

I'm sure you could possibly quallify for grants, which will help but the initial start up cost of any small business is a decent chunk of money.

My dad has his own business, and it's a lot different than what you are trying to do (its a machine shop). I don't know the exact figures, but I would say him and his business partner borrowed around 100k to start up, and that was back in 89.

How good is your credit OP?


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Re: Intensive/Extensive marine aquaculture pond(s) [Re: lets drive around]
    #22309709 - 09/29/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Not good enough.  certainly not good enough for the 10 million or more i would need to build this facility.  It won't happen unless i can partner with a university and get some big Ag Grants/Research Grants


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Re: Intensive/Extensive marine aquaculture pond(s) [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22453417 - 10/30/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

bumping for advice on attracting investment


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Re: Intensive/Extensive marine aquaculture pond(s) [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22453595 - 10/30/15 01:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Kickstarter, Patreon, dedicate a website on it, get on facebook/twitter and follow other companies/people who are interested

I did this with programming, development, gaming and it's absurd the job offers & free shit I get.

You reap what you sow.


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Re: Intensive/Extensive marine aquaculture pond(s) [Re: Beanhead]
    #22453663 - 10/30/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Help me improve on this concept [Re: ballsalsa]
    #22453822 - 10/30/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds fesiable.

how are u going to fund this huge project?

All the drilling and exacating is going to cost a shit ton of money.

I think you might run into issues of the main pond being underfilled or overfilled from the well and likely from evaporation.

Also, what if the well dries up? You would be pretty screwed at that point.

and is there predatory birds nearby? Might wanna train some hawks too.

Other than those things, u are good to go! :thumbup:


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