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Anyone trip this much?
    #22255015 - 09/18/15 08:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So I've kinda turned my shroom trips into a ritual like experience. I grow my own and have a ton. But here's the thing: I've bee. Tripping once a week for like 3 months at least. It's like my weekly spiritual/religious meditative practice. Usually in all dark with mindfold meditating for hours.

Is this unhealthy to be doing this often? I feel great and always very happy afterwards, but I'm concerned I may be overdoing it... yet I don't want to stop doing it lol. Anyone else trip weekly? I also do lsd but that is for very special occasions and not even monthly


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22255022 - 09/18/15 08:20 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The tolerance goes back to nothing after 2 weeks from what i have heard. To each his own, when I have shrooms i want to trip atleast once a week, but when i run out, then i am out for months on end. I tripped 5 out of 7 days one week, and blew a whole oz and half of cubes, the last trip was 10g into a tea, and it was like i took 1.5g, needless to say..i wasnt a happy camper, but i should of knew tolerance builds, but it was a really weak trip for what i used in the tea.


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22255028 - 09/18/15 08:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I used to trip every weekend on all sorts of drugs for almost 2 years, sometimes I'd trip twice a week.  I was fine until I got into potent phenethylamines then I ran into vasoconstriction problems.


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: Zombi3]
    #22255049 - 09/18/15 08:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I eat shrooms once a week but you will notice that the trips get less intense and you need to keep upping the dose for the desired effects. I usually take a 2 week break every 4-6 weeks to let my mind reset lol


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #22255087 - 09/18/15 08:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Don't lose the magic bro:wonka:...I trip every 2 weeks....the max u can trip without tolerance...I mean ...I need a week to integrate. ...then a week to plan the next trip....:shrug:


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #22255486 - 09/18/15 10:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Tolerance builds faster than I'd like it to. I've eaten 3.5g of quality gold caps after tripping recently on the same dosage weeks prior, and was deeply disappointed. I would recommend 3 months after using after only a few times.

Also, your past experience with hallucinogens will dictate your future experiences. I have already achieved a ++++ and since then I have gotten far higher than experiences beforehand. Still, tolerance builds even quicker these days. It would take me 2-3 months just to get a full fledged cannabis trip (yes cannabis can make you trip and hallucinate, especially in my case)


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #22255509 - 09/18/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I wish i could do it once every weekend,
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I eat shrooms once a week but you will notice that the trips get less intense and you need to keep upping the dose for the desired effects. I usually take a 2 week break every 4-6 weeks to let my mind reset lol




How do you like to take your shrooms?, i ate them once every week for one month, my tolerance was on the roof, the effects were very low at the end, lats one  i took 50 grams fresh and i was dissapointed, so yes, i will start doing it once every two weeks at most. or even less to see if its enough
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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22256672 - 09/18/15 03:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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So I've kinda turned my shroom trips into a ritual like experience. I grow my own and have a ton. But here's the thing: I've bee. Tripping once a week for like 3 months at least. It's like my weekly spiritual/religious meditative practice. Usually in all dark with mindfold meditating for hours.






You could probably stretch the interval to every 10 days, but you seem to be taking a respectful attitude toward the process--unlike so many around here who just want to put on the psychedelic shitface for half a day.


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: champinhom]
    #22257112 - 09/18/15 05:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Since I started growing my own I've been thinking about new ways of using mushrooms, and one thing I was pondering was maybe as little as twice a week at .4 grams dosing for meditation facilitation with my wife. 

However this is apparently far too much for her to be comfortable with, and she has told me she doesn't want this or anything like this to be that much a part of my lifestyle.  I don't know how I feel about this revelations. :\


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: Shroomsh]
    #22257146 - 09/18/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That's funny haha when I first got into LSD I tripped every weekend for like 6 months straight. IMO waiting at lest two weeks is better and makes the experiences more magical.


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22257628 - 09/18/15 07:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah it seems I do get a little burnt out on it. Actually other plans take over and I do other stuff and don't have the time for it. Which is good to go out and live besides tripping all the time. It's just so damn easy to spend one night a week tripping balls and having the time of my life with a huge supply for free basically. But naturally, I slow down and kinda forget about it. Get into other hobbies such as art, music and lucid dreaming. Tripping takes a lot of preparation and energy... I still gotta live and be myself. Tripping just shows me who I am, but i have to act upon these insights too. Although I use them spiritually and meditate, it still is somewhat recreational to trip that often.

Besides, I run out eventually lol. And sometimes my brain thanks me for the break and I can integrate better with more time. Kind of like daily weed smoking. Need a break to enjoy the true essence of these substances and integrate the experience into your real life instead of living in a constant hazy dreamlike reality... which can be nice too lol. I guess I like to switch it up a bit. But i am pretty sure I will get bored/exhausted of tripping that much soon just like with weed everyday. Don't lose da magic!!!


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22257993 - 09/18/15 08:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think its ok to trip once a week for a while (like a few months), but I recommend taking breaks to let your mind and body rest and tolerance reset.

I also recommend using aminitas. In my experiences, psilocybin mushrooms are omega while amanitas are alpha. Using aminitas helps balance out your psilocybin trips. If you just eat psilocybin you get spaced out. Aminitas draw your energy back in and ground you. They have helped me deal with many of the side effects of tripping on other psychedelics and shown me when my brain needed a rest. You dont need high doses of aminitas to accomplish this (although high doses are great as well). I experience amazing benefits from just a few grams of aminita.


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22258128 - 09/18/15 09:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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So I've kinda turned my shroom trips into a ritual like experience. I grow my own and have a ton. But here's the thing: I've bee. Tripping once a week for like 3 months at least. It's like my weekly spiritual/religious meditative practice. Usually in all dark with mindfold meditating for hours.

Is this unhealthy to be doing this often? I feel great and always very happy afterwards, but I'm concerned I may be overdoing it... yet I don't want to stop doing it lol. Anyone else trip weekly? I also do lsd but that is for very special occasions and not even monthly




Not in my opinion.  I've tripped more often than that, and for extended periods, though not recently. :lol:

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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: bullshavehorns]
    #22259638 - 09/19/15 10:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Can anyone tell me about their experiences with mushrooms and mdma? What's that like? Just ignore this question if you want since it's not really related to thread


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22259667 - 09/19/15 10:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Think of heaven and then triple it. I like the MDMA and LSD mix more


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22259727 - 09/19/15 11:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Hippy flip > candy flip

IMO

Because the two substances mix better given their similar time lines.


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: Shroomsh]
    #22259825 - 09/19/15 11:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Since I started growing my own I've been thinking about new ways of using mushrooms, and one thing I was pondering was maybe as little as twice a week at .4 grams dosing for meditation facilitation with my wife. 

However this is apparently far too much for her to be comfortable with, and she has told me she doesn't want this or anything like this to be that much a part of my lifestyle.  I don't know how I feel about this revelations. :\





My lady can handle every 2 weeks....more and she gets a little concerned. .:bigyesnod:...she's awesome in general...:mindexpanding:


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #22259949 - 09/19/15 12:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well for one thing even if you compensate and double your last dose the trip is never as astounding as after waiting a month or so.

For me these are the kind of trips that tend to be warm and welcome me back as an old friend, but I can quickly out stay my welcome.   

I think even a week isn't long enough and increases the risk of bad or much darker depressive type trips but of course thats maybe just me.

Dosing too often can for some mean 'chasing it' as with any drug and often people find they are tripping every week just because they lack something to fill the void that would be there if they didnt do so. Like PS said do you think you are able to stop, and why exactly do you feel the need to trip every week anyway? Where does such fidgety impatience come from?

People are often either unable to comprehend or are just not honest with themselves about their true motives for tripping all the time. People who talk about 'sacred learning experiences' are often in actuality just bored silly like everyone else!

When I look back to when I was younger and tripping as much as I could, I can see now that I was in a sense addicted to psychedelics. My motivation for using them evolved over time from actually loving them to using them because thats who I felt I was, and had to continue to be. It got to the point where I was having bad trips each time and yet still continued to trip!

In a way I was day to day, in a state of sanity but already insane at this point repeating the same mistake but expecting different results each time.

Eventually I experienced a psychotic breakdown and was hospitalized...

At the time I had no conscious awareness that my fear of stopping psychedelics was worse even than my growing fear of psychedelics, but it was this inability to stop despite all the warning signs that doomed me to the genuine Hell on earth, that is the psychotic breakdown.. Cannabis too of course!

Examining my own motivations, I was a very lonely and unhappy individual at that time, and was using psychedelics and the astounding experience that they produced to convince myself that it was I myself who was special. It was all part of an identity I created for myself but really was textbook overcompensation.

Without psychedelics I didnt have anything else and was terrified of what I would do or be without them. They were the only thing that made me special and I had this ridiculous image of myself as some kind of far out and misunderstood genius! 

At that time I felt I didnt have anybody else, and didnt believe I really had a future. I have no idea where I could possibly of thought I was going back then and at what point had I chosen to choose psychedelic drugs over life itself.

Part of me thinks I chose to continue because the only way to stop the train was to crash it, and to be honest I didnt use psychedlics for a long time after the break.

Its a strange contradiction indeed that someone would for egotistical reasons use an ego attacking drug like LSD in order to somehow escape from reality and his subconcious by facing it head on! The results were predictably disastrous! It does happen quite alot though and I have seen others on the shroomery who fit a similar profile.

Be sure to honestly examine your own life and ask yourself truthfully if you are a happy person and get the hell away from psychdelic drugs if the answer to this question is negative. Its difficult to warn people like this however because they are deluding themselves.

I've said it before but I think its solid advice:- if you are using these substances be sure to take care that you are basing psychedelics around your life, and not basing your life around psychedelics.

Psychedelics do not in any way deserve that level of attention, and if you find yourself thinking about nothing else take stock!

I think I used to spend all my time either reading, writing, talking about, preparing, or actually doing psychedelics. It was just not a healthy mindset!

OK gonna now check if this has anything whatsoever to do with the OP!

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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: wolf8312]
    #22260017 - 09/19/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Eat em till you feel right. Eventually your desire to trip so often will wane. Then eat them less.


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: wolf8312]
    #22260596 - 09/19/15 02:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Well for one thing even if you compensate and double your last dose the trip is never as astounding as after waiting a month or so.





One word - tea.

Didn't read the rest. :wink:


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #22260901 - 09/19/15 04:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I always use tea!

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wolf8312 said:
Well for one thing even if you compensate and double your last dose the trip is never as astounding as after waiting a month or so.





One word - tea.

Didn't read the rest. :wink:




I doubt anyone did, bunch of stoned slackers!


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: wolf8312]
    #22261142 - 09/19/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

People say that tolerance takes 2 weeks to go, but I saw this chart once (no idea how accurate but looks like it was part of a study) that showed that probably 80% of that tolerance is gone within the first 3/4 days, and then it slowly goes down over the next week or whatever.


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: wolf8312]
    #22263575 - 09/20/15 06:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Well for one thing even if you compensate and double your last dose the trip is never as astounding as after waiting a month or so.

For me these are the kind of trips that tend to be warm and welcome me back as an old friend, but I can quickly out stay my welcome.   

I think even a week isn't long enough and increases the risk of bad or much darker depressive type trips but of course thats maybe just me.

Dosing too often can for some mean 'chasing it' as with any drug and often people find they are tripping every week just because they lack something to fill the void that would be there if they didnt do so. Like PS said do you think you are able to stop, and why exactly do you feel the need to trip every week anyway? Where does such fidgety impatience come from?

People are often either unable to comprehend or are just not honest with themselves about their true motives for tripping all the time. People who talk about 'sacred learning experiences' are often in actuality just bored silly like everyone else!

When I look back to when I was younger and tripping as much as I could, I can see now that I was in a sense addicted to psychedelics. My motivation for using them evolved over time from actually loving them to using them because thats who I felt I was, and had to continue to be. It got to the point where I was having bad trips each time and yet still continued to trip!

In a way I was day to day, in a state of sanity but already insane at this point repeating the same mistake but expecting different results each time.

Eventually I experienced a psychotic breakdown and was hospitalized...

At the time I had no conscious awareness that my fear of stopping psychedelics was worse even than my growing fear of psychedelics, but it was this inability to stop despite all the warning signs that doomed me to the genuine Hell on earth, that is the psychotic breakdown.. Cannabis too of course!

Examining my own motivations, I was a very lonely and unhappy individual at that time, and was using psychedelics and the astounding experience that they produced to convince myself that it was I myself who was special. It was all part of an identity I created for myself but really was textbook overcompensation.

Without psychedelics I didnt have anything else and was terrified of what I would do or be without them. They were the only thing that made me special and I had this ridiculous image of myself as some kind of far out and misunderstood genius! 

At that time I felt I didnt have anybody else, and didnt believe I really had a future. I have no idea where I could possibly of thought I was going back then and at what point had I chosen to choose psychedelic drugs over life itself.

Part of me thinks I chose to continue because the only way to stop the train was to crash it, and to be honest I didnt use psychedlics for a long time after the break.

Its a strange contradiction indeed that someone would for egotistical reasons use an ego attacking drug like LSD in order to somehow escape from reality and his subconcious by facing it head on! The results were predictably disastrous! It does happen quite alot though and I have seen others on the shroomery who fit a similar profile.

Be sure to honestly examine your own life and ask yourself truthfully if you are a happy person and get the hell away from psychdelic drugs if the answer to this question is negative. Its difficult to warn people like this however because they are deluding themselves.

I've said it before but I think its solid advice:- if you are using these substances be sure to take care that you are basing psychedelics around your life, and not basing your life around psychedelics.

Psychedelics do not in any way deserve that level of attention, and if you find yourself thinking about nothing else take stock!

I think I used to spend all my time either reading, writing, talking about, preparing, or actually doing psychedelics. It was just not a healthy mindset!

OK gonna now check if this has anything whatsoever to do with the OP!

Lol damned Kratom rambles!




Haha thanks for your story. Its scary how similar our stories kinda are. I've been in a situation abusing lsd so I know how that goes. Gotta show them respect and not use out of boredom. I've grown out of obsessing about it so much, and use them as tools more so these days, but obviously still are probably too big a part in my life at the moment. I still have a full filling life with other interests and hobbies, but tripping that often takes a lot of preparation and energy on its own, which gets in the way of other more productive habits in life. I'm sure I'll lay off the weekly/bi-weekly trips here soon. I still have a blast each time, but i can sense the change in the magic. Nice to have a break of clarity anyways. I have my best times tripping once a month. Perhaps it is my immaturity/addictive nature and young age that keeps me bored and somewhat addicted to the experience. But I've already seen the darker sides to using too often. I think i agree using weekly that long is abuse in a way. But i kinda wait for the trips to tell me when I need a break and to live life soberly for awhile.

And very true, the desire does die down. It's when you force a trip anyways out of habit, when it can become darker and not as fun anymore. They will let you know... or should I say your subconscious will let you know when it needs a break.

As for hippy vs candy flipping, I think lsd and mdma would be fun at low doses, especially lsd. Hippy flipping sounds even more fun since shrooms can kinda make me lethargic and not want to move or do anything except meditate haha. One day thoufh... one day

I guess my main point of this post was to discern whether I will do damage over time to myself tripping minimum once a month. Psychologically I feel that it can help my depression and motivation to become who psychedelics show who I really am. But it also seems that over time, my mind has become better acquainted with tripping and I can handle anything thrown at me at this point. So chances for psychosis or a mental break are down since I'm used to using them in a meditative fashion. But since there isn't much research yet, it's hard to say if I'm doing brain/nerve damage or anything long term really. I mean I'd love to be a guy who trips into his older years without any problems, but it seems quite uncommon as people generally grow up and move onto other things. Obviously I wouldn't be tripping nearly as much as I get older though.I did take 3 years off in college and a couple more years of only tripping a couple times each. But aince i graduated and have the time, mktivstion and love for psychedelics (and grow), this lifestyle has bloomed into  easycto maintain as desired.
I did take 3 years off in college and a couple more years of only tripping a couple times each. But aince i graduated and have the time, mktivstion and love for psychedelics (and grow), this lifestyle bloomed into a habit that is easycto maintain as desired.

But for now, I shall keep my spiritual rituals of tripping at least once a month ish. The best form of therapy and "worship" in my opinion. Sometimes I'll just meditate soberly and start seeing trippy visions and such. I kinda feel like I've restructured new neural pathways that are becoming more permanent from tripping so often. Or perhaps it has just enhanced the cognitive abilities that are fired during meditation. Has made lucid dreaming and meditation seem to flow more naturally like my brain has gone through a form of epigenetics and neuroplasticity and restructured possibly permanently. Research does show the brain activity is similar during tripping and meditation so this makes sense. In that line of thought, I would think it is healthy to have these "enhanced cognitive abilities," if you would even call it that. Or perhaps I'm delusional. Either way, I'm a happier, calmer, healthier, more creative and active since I've dived into the psychonaut world at the age of 18, now almost 25.  This all could also be related to the fact that I am aging and maturing naturally anyways and psychedelics have little to do with my perceptions. Perhaps i am giving them too much credit instead of to myself for growing into who I am. Hard to say what I would be like without all these experiences.


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22264085 - 09/20/15 10:20 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Exactly man. I was tripping every week religiously but now I see waiting is the best option


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    #22264270 - 09/20/15 11:05 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I usually trip whenever I feel like it. Sometimes that can mean only a week, but now it's ever 2-3 weeks minimum. Although if I feel like I wanna trip, I still will.


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I trip like once every 3-6 months, can't see myself doing it weekly, I would have no reason to


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    #22264576 - 09/20/15 12:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I could never wait that long haha I wait like 3 weeks to a month max. Usually smoke dmt In between my mushroom and LSD trips


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    #22264616 - 09/20/15 12:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Something about them just makes me want to keep the experience extremely special, I have only ever had a breakthrough experience once when I took 3.5g dried and achieved total loss of ego, its a very emotional and moving process for me I don't really seek out all too often.. I still don't feel up to taking that much again even after over a year now, I trip on 2.5g - 3g max every 3-6 months though just for fun, don't get any visuals or anything or any deep thought patterns/headspace of a trip like 3.5g, just general mind stimulation which I enjoy, maybe someday I will go for an ego death experience again :mushroom2: but it's something you really only need to experience once, it's a very powerful and moving experience that I don't feel like having again for some reason, maybe some day, it's definitely not a "fun" experience in anyway, it's a moving personal and spiritual lesson every time, more like a lecture from the gods for me :lol:


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    #22264626 - 09/20/15 12:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I feel that for sure man. I don't eat heroic doses that often but I do trip pretty hard when I do. I only seek out ego death experiences maybe 2-3 times a year


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    #22264649 - 09/20/15 12:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I go through 2 oz a month myself and my girl goes through 16 grams. We love em, id rather trip on booms than get all drunk. I love heroic doses though. 12-14 grams is my normal dose every week for 4-6 weeks then I'll take a couple weeks off.


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22265064 - 09/20/15 01:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I guess my main point of this post was to discern whether I will do damage over time to myself tripping minimum once a month.




Once a year, once a month, once a week, no, not at all.  Mushrooms are one of the most innocuous substances in that regard.  :Awemush:


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    #22267313 - 09/20/15 10:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I was tripping about every week for a summer until i had a really gnarly, not so comfortable, existential crisis but not bad trip. Although i wasn't respecting the mushrooms too much at the time like you were, i was just tripping sack with friends or just alone with music in my room. I'd do it over again though, I'd say just listen to your body/mind and trip. After that gnarly one though i only trip like once every month to get a good perspective/overview of my life.


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    #22267342 - 09/20/15 10:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I guess my main point of this post was to discern whether I will do damage over time to myself tripping minimum once a month.




Once a year, once a month, once a week, no, not at all.  Mushrooms are one of the most innocuous substances in that regard.  :Awemush:




Just to be clear I never said that!

Hard to say Heisencybin. Some people do indeed come to grief when they start using psychedelics on a habitual basis. Like I was saying in the other post, I think you gotta carefully analyze your own mental state and work out if you are stable enough to be doing psychedelics at this point in your life. How are the trips themselves? When you trip do you feel somethings telling you not to continue?

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Perhaps i am giving them too much credit instead of to myself for growing into who I am. Hard to say what I would be like without all these experiences.





Yeah alot of people talk about being changed forever by psychedelics but I feel looking back the only trip that had any significant life-changing effects was my psychotic break but that is something quite different than a trip anyhow with cannabis playing I think the biggest role.

Otherwise with good trips, and bad, its pretty hard to determine if they affected me either positively or negatively really. I know mushrooms have me feeling great for about a week afterwards but other than that life goes on, and I forget all about them.

You can use them every week without any physical problems but I still say longer breaks are much better and healthier mentally or at least they certainly are for me anyway.

Trips I find after a long break, are almost always ecstatic, as if the spirits themselves are so much kinder, rolling out the red carpet, to welcome me back as someone they are curious to see!

These wondeful experiences can get me back to doing them every week again until eventually I have a really bad one, and the wounded beast once more slouches back off into his caves to sleep!

Its more a spiritual position than scientific but I got the feeling over the years that we are supposed to go away after our journeys, and let them sink in.

In any case, IMOE, if I start tripping too much things soon start to get ugly!


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I guess my main point of this post was to discern whether I will do damage over time to myself tripping minimum once a month.




Once a year, once a month, once a week, no, not at all.  Mushrooms are one of the most innocuous substances in that regard.  :Awemush:




Just to be clear I never said that!




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    #22267567 - 09/20/15 11:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Trips I find after a long break, are almost always ecstatic, as if the spirits themselves are so much kinder, rolling out the red carpet, to welcome me back as someone they are curious to see!





I get that too, but for me the trips that are the most useful/meaningful/productive are the ones I get into after a few days of straight tripping (allowing always for tolerance).  There's this stripping away of the superficial ego layers that occurs with the first trip after a break, and some people like that to the exclusion of the deeper journey you can take after that preliminary work is done.  There's a reason why when you go on a meditation retreat it doesn't last just one day. :thumbup:  *disclaimer - not that I've ever done that - the inner work with mushrooms has proved totally satisfactory to me so far.*


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    #22268325 - 09/21/15 07:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks guys. I agree with waiting at least 2-3 weeks in between trips. Longer for lsd, for me at least. My trips have been mostly positive but can get a little down if used every week for a month or longer. I think as we psychonauts age, those neural pathways created from psychedelics may become permanent due to neuroplasticity and won't need or really desire to trip since you can meditate and basically have very similar visions. This is just my opinion though. Like I said before, I already have this skill when I'm sober meditating and through my dreams.

It's easy for new, younger psychonauts to abuse these substances recreationally,  but the message becomes quite clear through experience and wisdom that they are to be used as tools, not drugs to dull emotional dissatisfaction.  I've learned this the hard way, as I'm sure many have


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22268335 - 09/21/15 07:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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    #22271453 - 09/21/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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    #22271630 - 09/21/15 09:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Trips I find after a long break, are almost always ecstatic, as if the spirits themselves are so much kinder, rolling out the red carpet, to welcome me back as someone they are curious to see!





I get that too, but for me the trips that are the most useful/meaningful/productive are the ones I get into after a few days of straight tripping (allowing always for tolerance).  There's this stripping away of the superficial ego layers that occurs with the first trip after a break, and some people like that to the exclusion of the deeper journey you can take after that preliminary work is done.  There's a reason why when you go on a meditation retreat it doesn't last just one day. :thumbup:  *disclaimer - not that I've ever done that - the inner work with mushrooms has proved totally satisfactory to me so far.*





I agree with this completely. I pretty much advocate periods of concentrated usage, followed by breaks and increasingly infrequent usage.

If you are like these people who only trip once every few months and want it to be all "special", then yes, you will most likely have a very awesome experience. But I am more interested in how psychedelics can help to heal spiritually and emotionally and evolve as a being, rather than just having the most awesome trip. With very infrequent tripping, you just peel back the most superficial ego layers as you said, and then they have plenty of time to grow back before your next trip if you wait 2 months or so.

When you trip frequently, the experience certainly isn't as magical but that doesn't necessarily mean you can't accomplish real growth and healing with it. What you take away from a trip is not measured by how "magical" the trip was.


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: Peyote Road]
    #22271711 - 09/21/15 09:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well said.  I do those things, and more recently began my ongoing research into the anomalous physics engendered by psychedelics as well.

What's interesting is, well, how much more interesting it gets the more you're able to repeat it fully. :awesomenod:


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Well said.  I do those things, and more recently began my ongoing research into the anomalous physics engendered by psychedelics as well.

What's interesting is, well, how much more interesting it gets the more you're able to repeat it fully. :awesomenod:



What do you mean by anomalous physics engendered by psychedelics? And i seem to kinda use them strongly during a certain time frame like a summer. Then take a long break. I agree with using them frequently to evolve emotionally and work each and every problem out. Doing it just once a year or so just gives me a glimpse of what I should be working on. In a way, it's like having multiple therapy sessions for a while, then applying what you learned in therapy


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22274021 - 09/22/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

See my journal if you're interested.  I'm working at getting it more organized and online at scideus.org but ordinary work has been keeping me from both that and tripping recently.

My summer use is intense, but sadly, it didn't happen this year - failed crops due to biodegradable liners that came with contams...


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: wolf8312]
    #22279766 - 09/23/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Well for one thing even if you compensate and double your last dose the trip is never as astounding as after waiting a month or so.

For me these are the kind of trips that tend to be warm and welcome me back as an old friend, but I can quickly out stay my welcome.   

I think even a week isn't long enough and increases the risk of bad or much darker depressive type trips but of course thats maybe just me.

Dosing too often can for some mean 'chasing it' as with any drug and often people find they are tripping every week just because they lack something to fill the void that would be there if they didnt do so. Like PS said do you think you are able to stop, and why exactly do you feel the need to trip every week anyway? Where does such fidgety impatience come from?

People are often either unable to comprehend or are just not honest with themselves about their true motives for tripping all the time. People who talk about 'sacred learning experiences' are often in actuality just bored silly like everyone else!

When I look back to when I was younger and tripping as much as I could, I can see now that I was in a sense addicted to psychedelics. My motivation for using them evolved over time from actually loving them to using them because thats who I felt I was, and had to continue to be. It got to the point where I was having bad trips each time and yet still continued to trip!

In a way I was day to day, in a state of sanity but already insane at this point repeating the same mistake but expecting different results each time.

Eventually I experienced a psychotic breakdown and was hospitalized...

At the time I had no conscious awareness that my fear of stopping psychedelics was worse even than my growing fear of psychedelics, but it was this inability to stop despite all the warning signs that doomed me to the genuine Hell on earth, that is the psychotic breakdown.. Cannabis too of course!

Examining my own motivations, I was a very lonely and unhappy individual at that time, and was using psychedelics and the astounding experience that they produced to convince myself that it was I myself who was special. It was all part of an identity I created for myself but really was textbook overcompensation.

Without psychedelics I didnt have anything else and was terrified of what I would do or be without them. They were the only thing that made me special and I had this ridiculous image of myself as some kind of far out and misunderstood genius! 

At that time I felt I didnt have anybody else, and didnt believe I really had a future. I have no idea where I could possibly of thought I was going back then and at what point had I chosen to choose psychedelic drugs over life itself.

Part of me thinks I chose to continue because the only way to stop the train was to crash it, and to be honest I didnt use psychedlics for a long time after the break.

Its a strange contradiction indeed that someone would for egotistical reasons use an ego attacking drug like LSD in order to somehow escape from reality and his subconcious by facing it head on! The results were predictably disastrous! It does happen quite alot though and I have seen others on the shroomery who fit a similar profile.

Be sure to honestly examine your own life and ask yourself truthfully if you are a happy person and get the hell away from psychdelic drugs if the answer to this question is negative. Its difficult to warn people like this however because they are deluding themselves.

I've said it before but I think its solid advice:- if you are using these substances be sure to take care that you are basing psychedelics around your life, and not basing your life around psychedelics.

Psychedelics do not in any way deserve that level of attention, and if you find yourself thinking about nothing else take stock!

I think I used to spend all my time either reading, writing, talking about, preparing, or actually doing psychedelics. It was just not a healthy mindset!

OK gonna now check if this has anything whatsoever to do with the OP!

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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: PrimalSoup]
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See my journal if you're interested.  I'm working at getting it more organized and online at scideus.org but ordinary work has been keeping me from both that and tripping recently.

My summer use is intense, but sadly, it didn't happen this year - failed crops due to biodegradable liners that came with contams...




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    #22281531 - 09/23/15 10:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Nope, summer rules.  Mostly because it's hot and sunny and I don't get the chills from the shrooms during the comeup - and while tripping the heat is much more tolerable for some reason than otherwise. :lol:

Might do some for a couple months this winter though. Storms can be way cool. :Awemush:

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    #22281581 - 09/23/15 10:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Hippy flip > candy flip

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Because the two substances mix better given their similar time lines.



I agree, I think that MDMA transforms mushrooms more positively than it does LSD.  I'd love to try mixing MDA with LSD though, that would be fucking supreme. 
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Well for one thing even if you compensate and double your last dose the trip is never as astounding as after waiting a month or so.

For me these are the kind of trips that tend to be warm and welcome me back as an old friend, but I can quickly out stay my welcome.   

I think even a week isn't long enough and increases the risk of bad or much darker depressive type trips but of course thats maybe just me.

Dosing too often can for some mean 'chasing it' as with any drug and often people find they are tripping every week just because they lack something to fill the void that would be there if they didnt do so. Like PS said do you think you are able to stop, and why exactly do you feel the need to trip every week anyway? Where does such fidgety impatience come from?

People are often either unable to comprehend or are just not honest with themselves about their true motives for tripping all the time. People who talk about 'sacred learning experiences' are often in actuality just bored silly like everyone else!

When I look back to when I was younger and tripping as much as I could, I can see now that I was in a sense addicted to psychedelics. My motivation for using them evolved over time from actually loving them to using them because thats who I felt I was, and had to continue to be. It got to the point where I was having bad trips each time and yet still continued to trip!

In a way I was day to day, in a state of sanity but already insane at this point repeating the same mistake but expecting different results each time.

Eventually I experienced a psychotic breakdown and was hospitalized...

At the time I had no conscious awareness that my fear of stopping psychedelics was worse even than my growing fear of psychedelics, but it was this inability to stop despite all the warning signs that doomed me to the genuine Hell on earth, that is the psychotic breakdown.. Cannabis too of course!

Examining my own motivations, I was a very lonely and unhappy individual at that time, and was using psychedelics and the astounding experience that they produced to convince myself that it was I myself who was special. It was all part of an identity I created for myself but really was textbook overcompensation.

Without psychedelics I didnt have anything else and was terrified of what I would do or be without them. They were the only thing that made me special and I had this ridiculous image of myself as some kind of far out and misunderstood genius! 

At that time I felt I didnt have anybody else, and didnt believe I really had a future. I have no idea where I could possibly of thought I was going back then and at what point had I chosen to choose psychedelic drugs over life itself.

Part of me thinks I chose to continue because the only way to stop the train was to crash it, and to be honest I didnt use psychedlics for a long time after the break.

Its a strange contradiction indeed that someone would for egotistical reasons use an ego attacking drug like LSD in order to somehow escape from reality and his subconcious by facing it head on! The results were predictably disastrous! It does happen quite alot though and I have seen others on the shroomery who fit a similar profile.

Be sure to honestly examine your own life and ask yourself truthfully if you are a happy person and get the hell away from psychdelic drugs if the answer to this question is negative. Its difficult to warn people like this however because they are deluding themselves.

I've said it before but I think its solid advice:- if you are using these substances be sure to take care that you are basing psychedelics around your life, and not basing your life around psychedelics.

Psychedelics do not in any way deserve that level of attention, and if you find yourself thinking about nothing else take stock!

I think I used to spend all my time either reading, writing, talking about, preparing, or actually doing psychedelics. It was just not a healthy mindset!

OK gonna now check if this has anything whatsoever to do with the OP!

Lol damned Kratom rambles!




Thanks for this post.




Thanks for the thanks dude!

Please dont thank me for thanking you for the thanks, as I would then have to thank you for thanking me for the thanks, and it could get messy! :grin:


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: nwalker248]
    #22374942 - 10/13/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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People say that tolerance takes 2 weeks to go, but I saw this chart once (no idea how accurate but looks like it was part of a study) that showed that probably 80% of that tolerance is gone within the first 3/4 days, and then it slowly goes down over the next week or whatever.




this.... 2 to 4 days for me...........


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    #22375418 - 10/13/15 07:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

When I first started tripping I would dose weekly and sometimes even twice a week. A few times I tripped 3 times in one week then I decided that I was doing it too often. I would trip on shroom, acid, 4-aco-dmt and mescaline once or twice. I don't think I can go back to doing that again. Mostly because the end of that period was due to a bitch slap the mushrooms gave me.


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    #22376349 - 10/13/15 10:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I was tripping every week for over a year. My last trip was about a month and a week ago. I feel that tripping this often can only take a toll on your mind. The thoughts and realizations that you believe (wether they are true or not) you have come to understand are just too much.. for me at least. I know that everyone is different and drugs effects everyone differently but me personally, now more than ever, I am depressed almost all the time. I'm not 100% sure that the frequent psychedelic use contributed to me feeling severely depressed all the time but it just seems that it is more than a coincidence. I could very well be wrong though... Like I said, I'm not 100% sure. Nonetheless, frequent psychedelic use will skyrocket your tolerance and you will only have to keep ingesting more and more to achieve the same desired effects. And I know this has been said countless times on this forum but the "magic" does get lost. After a while it just seems like you're in a familiar place and I, personally, used to really enjoy and be amazed at how foreign and alien a psychedelic trip was. I am taking a break from all drugs in general in order to try to improve my mental health. That's not to say that I won't ever use psychedelics in the future. Psychedelics have become a part of my life and who I am. OP, maybe try to take a little break for you wallet but more importantly your mental wellbeing. Take care.

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    #22377396 - 10/14/15 08:24 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I learned pretty quickly this is not a smart move as I was bitch slapped by the mushroom gods as well. I think my mind can handle 2-3 times a month on shrooms. Acid is harder on me so once a month max for that. I evwn cut back smoking to 1-3 times a weekend instead of daily. But if I'm really actually tripping this often, there still are big gaps of time where I fade away for a little while. Even months. Good to give your brain a break and contemplate/utilize what you have learned. Actually in the middle of an extended break right now. I want to wait another month or two, get a regular shroom trip in, then prepare to try mescaline for the first time...

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    #22377486 - 10/14/15 08:55 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

FRAID SO - what with society we live in now... the two dont gel wel together... shame

what the dmt said to me... dont loose the magic of this place in your perception keep it far in far between... in otherwords... trip hard once a month not every other day....

weed i seriously need to cut down... why i turned to psilocybin to help me off it..


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    #22377506 - 10/14/15 09:01 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

"Moderation is key in life"

That is something that I am just starting to assimilate now at this point of my life. I haven't smoked nor tripped in over a month now (a month and about a week) and my mind feels more out of "out of whack", for a lack of a better term, then ever. Before this intermission, I was smoking every day 2-4 times a day, maybe missing a handful of days out of the year, for close to a decade-about 7 years or so. And tripping every week for over a year (I never tripped more than once in one week). It astounds me when I think about how much money I've spent especially when I consider myself pretty darn cheap-I wont even spend over $50 on a pair of shoes. I would estimate I've spent somewhere in between $7000-8000 altogether (weed and psychedelics included). Do I fully regret it? In some warped sense of thinking, no... not totally.


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    #22377515 - 10/14/15 09:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Hi PsyMindz86, how are you doing?

Just so I can fully comprehend your comment I would like to ask you what you meant or were replying to when you said "FRAID SO - what with society we live in now... the two don't gel wel together... shame"


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    #22377628 - 10/14/15 09:43 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

The most often I've ever tripped was twice in a month spread out 2 weeks and that's the only time. And it was both a low dose, 2g of cubes. I could never trip weekly or once every 2 weeks for that matter for me it ranges from once every 3-5 months in general depending on the dose I stick to 2-3g of cubes.

They're just too moving and powerful for me to ever want to get "use" to that type of experience. Once a week or 2 just seems too damn close, I want to have a trip, integrate it into my life, work on my self, forget about the trip then whenever I feel like im ready to trip again I do, in my case 2-5 months for a standard 2-3g dose and once a year at my rate for ego death experiences. I just cant see enjoying using them 1-2 times a week or 2, they would become more of an abuse in my eyes, something doing out of habit or for reasons unknown. It's a very sacred and meaningful time for me when I take mushrooms, on any dose and it's usually to find out something inside of me, perspective change, immersion of thought patterns and sometimes just for fun, I feel like I would start believing more of what I feel think and see in the mushroom world than actual reality, might become a problem. I like to stay in reality for awhile then have my perspective smashed and changed once every couple months everyone's different :mushroom2: there's a lot worse things you could be doing than using a natural fungus once a week honestly, one would be acid :lol:


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    #22377649 - 10/14/15 09:49 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah I learned pretty quickly this is not a smart move as I was bitch slapped by the mushroom gods as well. I think my mind can handle 2-3 times a month on shrooms. Acid is harder on me so once a month max for that. I evwn cut back smoking to 1-3 times a weekend instead of daily. But if I'm really actually tripping this often, there still are big gaps of time where I fade away for a little while. Even months. Good to give your brain a break and contemplate/utilize what you have learned. Actually in the middle of an extended break right now. I want to wait another month or two, get a regular shroom trip in, then prepare to try mescaline for the first time...

Moderation is key in life




With mescaline and acid I love the actual trip and have more of a fun and recreational experience while tripping but the come down or that period when the peak is over can be excruciating and I dont think I can bear it any more now I'm getting older. There's very little value to the torturously repetitive thought processes at that point either intellectually or ascetically and I feel like I want to scream because I cant sleep.

I also get alot of guilt and feelings that I should grow up and try to focus on my life more and stop putting myself and my wife at risk no matter how small the chances of apprehension are.

Flushed my entire stash this week and although I am bitterly regretting it now sober, I wont get locked into a collection like that any more as I trip only a couple of times a year and yet had copious amounts of all kinds of shit!

Tripping when you have mescaline and cactus, DMT and bark, as well as mushrooms and a shit load of growing materials is just horrible.

Isnt the first time I have flushed my stash when tripping though! It actually felt like they were coming and even if not why was I taking the risk?

Doh! Could have at least saved something! Pretty fucking costly trip huh? 

I'm thinking it was for the best though!


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: wolf8312]
    #22377702 - 10/14/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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With mescaline and acid I love the actual trip and have more of a fun and recreational experience while tripping but the come down or that period when the peak is over can be excruciating and I dont think I can bear it any more now I'm getting older. There's very little value to the torturously repetitive thought processes at that point either intellectually or ascetically and I feel like I want to scream because I cant sleep.




Dude, just get some benzos.  Bypass the entire comedown period completely and fall asleep.  Once you're old and have obligations in the morning and can't afford to be hungover and useless, tripping early, then popping a benzo at the end of a trip is an elegant solution to avoid any uncomfortable period of feeling strung out, nasty and worried about falling asleep.  Wake up in the morning relatively refreshed. 

Sucks about the stash, I've had trips where I get all guilty and paranoid about grows and shit but I've never dumped everything like that.  :lol:


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    #22377718 - 10/14/15 10:07 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Benzos during a trip? :sad:

edit: To each his own. I, personally, would only use benzos in a fight or flight situation during a bad trio. Not saying you're way of ending a trip is the right or wrong way.


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    #22377769 - 10/14/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Benzos during a trip? :sad:

edit: To each his own. I, personally, would only use benzos in a fight or flight situation during a bad trio. Not saying you're way of ending a trip is the right or wrong way.



No fool, benzos when the trip is over and you can't sleep and are feeling empty, shitty and burnt out.


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    #22377778 - 10/14/15 10:18 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Benzos during a trip? :sad:

edit: To each his own. I, personally, would only use benzos in a fight or flight situation during a bad trio. Not saying you're way of ending a trip is the right or wrong way.





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    #22377799 - 10/14/15 10:23 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Man up by staying awake all night sober, jittery and feeling empty?  Sure, have fun with that.  I like sleeping when it's bed time and waking up refreshed. 
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    #22377818 - 10/14/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Really, you're going to resort to name calling..? Haha. How childish. I fully understand what you meant. By ending a trip I meant THE END of a trip. Maybe my wording was a little confusing but still... :rolleyes:


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    #22377821 - 10/14/15 10:26 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

In all honesty, I can't imagine having so much free time in life to be able to do psychs as much as some here do. My weekends are so tied up with positive normal things like going to kids/ grandkids soccer games, baseball games or having dinner with family or friends. Doing yardwork, reading, playing guitar...just normal fun life stuff. When I trip, i make it a whole day or night when I can pay attention to nothing but where the psychs take me...with little or no interference from outside sources....this time is sacred to me.
I just can't imagine that tripping every single weekend or even more-often (not sure how that could be accomplished with a full time job or school) can be good for your overall psyche. It takes balance and integration into real life circumstance....not meant to overrule normal healthy life. I think tripping that often is just setting yourself up for depression at least on some scale.

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    #22377894 - 10/14/15 10:41 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah dude, I agree.  At my busiest I may go 6 months without a trip, at best I can sneak a trip in once a month.  Even then, I don't necessarily have time to spend 12+ hours high so If I take acid in the early evening I'll have to cut it short with a benzo to sleep by 2am so I can function with the family and continue to be a productive member of society.  All the 20 something party animal unemployed bachelors who trip all the time can boast about how they'd never end a trip early all they want, if they stick with the hobby for another 10-20 years they'll be singing another song when old age hits, lack of sleep tears you up and real life gets in the way of tripping time.  :lol:


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    #22377907 - 10/14/15 10:44 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah dude, I agree.  At my busiest I may go 6 months without a trip, at best I can sneak a trip in once a month.  Even then, I don't necessarily have time to spend 12+ hours high so If I take acid in the early evening I'll have to cut it short with a benzo to sleep by 2am so I can function with the family and continue to be a productive member of society.  All the 20 something party animal unemployed bachelors who trip all the time can boast about how they'd never end a trip early all they want, if they stick with the hobby for another 10-20 years they'll be singing another song when old age hits, lack of sleep tears you up and real life gets in the way of tripping time.  :lol:



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    #22377911 - 10/14/15 10:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I don't think anyone here is boasting..? If anything most folks here are saying moderation is key and have learned that through experience. Get off your high horse pal.


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    #22377973 - 10/14/15 11:02 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah dude, I agree.  At my busiest I may go 6 months without a trip, at best I can sneak a trip in once a month.  Even then, I don't necessarily have time to spend 12+ hours high so If I take acid in the early evening I'll have to cut it short with a benzo to sleep by 2am so I can function with the family and continue to be a productive member of society.  All the 20 something party animal unemployed bachelors who trip all the time can boast about how they'd never end a trip early all they want, if they stick with the hobby for another 10-20 years they'll be singing another song when old age hits, lack of sleep tears you up and real life gets in the way of tripping time.  :lol:




...bro...I'm fucking 43!....I trip harder and go more all out than any kid!:wonka:

...tripped 7g lemon tek in the cascades last night....huge meadow with lava flows and golden grasses!....kiss the sky!...ride the steel breeze!...tons of chronic weed....Santana and Jean luc pony just cranking out the stereo....

....enveloped in Wilderness...WILD!

...LOL...THESE 2 younger guys half my age just couldn't hang with the big dogs!.....hiked in...tripped...hiked out..move home...in bed 2 am...up at 6....waffles and bacon....trimming a shit load of weed and killing it right now!

...no benzo required...:firstladyofapproval:

...sorry dude. ..pharmacy is SHIT!

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    #22378026 - 10/14/15 11:13 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Man up on your trip...or don't fucking do it.....jeezus dude:facepalm3:



This sounds pretty boastful, IMO.  I take my trips seriously, dose high take it like a champ and honestly at least on acid I am still having fun when I take my benzo and could easily keep going, it's just that sometimes duty calls and real world obligations are always more important than drugs.  I don't need to hear some kids saying it's a cop out or bad form to do what I want and need to enjoy my trip. :shrug: 

I actually like voodoo but he has a major problem with getting on the "my drugs are better than yours" highhorse and I've heard his line of bullshit a few too many times to care much for the chestpounding bravado that accompany his diatribes against the evils of mixing other drugs with his sacred mushrooms and will always take a stand against that kind new age hippie dogma.  :lol: 

Reading back your post wasn't offensive, but if you get butthurt of someone jokingly calling you foo in a harmless idiomatic expression then good luck with that.  Maybe your screen name should be hurtfeelers.

Oh and voodoo, really?  43?  You talk like a drunken frat guy, I always assumed you were just an immature kid.  :lol: 

Oh well, to each is own.  May we all enjoy our high horses. 
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    #22378065 - 10/14/15 11:26 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

blah blah woof woof...

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    #22378166 - 10/14/15 11:49 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Man up on your trip...or don't fucking do it.....jeezus dude:facepalm3:



This sounds pretty boastful, IMO.  I take my trips seriously, dose high take it like a champ and honestly at least on acid I am still having fun when I take my benzo and could easily keep going, it's just that sometimes duty calls and real world obligations are always more important than drugs.  I don't need to hear some kids saying it's a cop out or bad form to do what I want and need to enjoy my trip. :shrug: 

I actually like voodoo but he has a major problem with getting on the "my drugs are better than yours" highhorse and I've heard his line of bullshit a few too many times to care much for the chestpounding bravado that accompany his diatribes against the evils of mixing other drugs with his sacred mushrooms and will always take a stand against that kind new age hippie dogma.  :lol: 

Reading back your post wasn't offensive, but if you get butthurt of someone jokingly calling you foo in a harmless idiomatic expression then good luck with that.  Maybe your screen name should be hurtfeelers.

Oh and voodoo, really?  43?  You talk like a drunken frat guy, I always assumed you were just an immature kid.  :lol: 

Oh well, to each is own.  May we all enjoy our high horses. 
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...I l8ke u too bro!.... in my personal experience I have just seen all this pill popping lead to nothing but absolute b*******. People stumbling through life all hazy headed or even worse getting totally addicted and committing crimes or destroying their life.

... I have always kind of felt this way and have never been a pill popper personally. Also those pharmaceutical companies are the absolute scum of the earth and in my opinion not something that conscientious people should be involved with.

... I'm here to research and learn as well as hopefully make some good personal connections with people I can trip with and hang out :-)! Honestly though bro, I just really can't hang out around those people! They just come off as kind of negative like they're not taking care of themselves or approaching life in a positive and respectful manner!

...dogma?...or common sense?...pretty subjective....

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All I know is in my Commun with mushrooms and the wilderness I was affirmed in my thoughts and feelings!

... I'm not going to overlook common sense and good judgment to try to be quote en quote "open minded"....that seems ignorant...:shrug:

...honestly... it seems like most of the people claiming open minded are just in denial about their own lame drug usage!

...chest thumping?....come on dude... so many people on here clearly leading some kind of f***** up lives!...addiction...depression...ect...:llamastare:

... my mind was open, I saw how f***** up it was, and made a common sense and rational conclusion that is the kind of stuff that I don't want in my life personally and overall s*** that people don't need in their lives! and society doesn't need whack drugs and junkies ripping them off and destroying familys....I mean. ..Duh!

... you can take it or leave it and I'm not going to waste a bunch of time on shroomery going into eloquent detailed write ups because I have like a million things going on and also I'm extremely intelligent but can also come from the street and tell people what's up Playboy:bigyesnod:

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TRUST MY INTELLECT IS SUPER STONG!

... I do psychedelic experience is to make myself a better person and to live my life in a holistic and positive manner.

... in my honest opinion a bunch of people are acting like junkies and truly f****** up how society views psychedelics in general. That's not what we need going on! We need to show society that this is Psychological Medicine and has a place in people's lives and in our society!:mindexpanding:

...THAT'S WHAT'S UP!

....THINK WHAT U WANT!

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    #22378170 - 10/14/15 11:49 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I honestly want to see people just be f****** healthy and positive:shrug:


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22378262 - 10/14/15 12:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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So I've kinda turned my shroom trips into a ritual like experience. I grow my own and have a ton. But here's the thing: I've bee. Tripping once a week for like 3 months at least. It's like my weekly spiritual/religious meditative practice. Usually in all dark with mindfold meditating for hours.

Is this unhealthy to be doing this often? I feel great and always very happy afterwards, but I'm concerned I may be overdoing it... yet I don't want to stop doing it lol. Anyone else trip weekly? I also do lsd but that is for very special occasions and not even monthly




I think that the way you're using mushrooms is pretty much perfect and it sounds like you're integrating just fine as a result, it's very wise that you are trying to make sure this is safe though. Comparing something as powerful as psilocybin to alcohol is perhaps being a bit short sighted but still, physically speaking psilocybin is 100 times less toxic than alcohol and many people drink every weekend without thinking about it twice (apart from maybe the next day), so if you enjoy taking psilocybin once a week and you can handle it psychologically then why not?

Throughout most of my history with entheogens i've mostly used cubensis mushrooms once every few months, sometimes going well over 6 months without taking anything, especially after a heavy dose. I've also gone through a period where i tripped every week for a year with no negative consequences, of course this can vary from person to person, some people believe that just one trip has ruined their psychological health. I actually only started tripping so frequently after quitting psychedelics for a significant period and focusing on meditation, i honestly don't think i'd be able to trip so often without first having a decent understanding of myself.

One thing i have noticed is that even though it seems physical tolerance is reset after a week, having a week or two off does make it that much more mind blowing when you return. I believe these substances are self-regulating, meaning not only are they non-addictive but also that only you know when you have had enough, nobody else can rightly tell you that it's wrong.


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: Swarupa]
    #22378574 - 10/14/15 01:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

No response? ...yeah, I figured:wonka:...open minded...blah blah....some truths are universal!.....Immature frat boy?:canthelpbutlaugh:.....just one seriously real MF!......THATS WHATS UP!:wonka:

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    #22378595 - 10/14/15 01:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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In all honesty, I can't imagine having so much free time in life to be able to do psychs as much as some here do. My weekends are so tied up with positive normal things like going to kids/ grandkids soccer games, baseball games or having dinner with family or friends. Doing yardwork, reading, playing guitar...just normal fun life stuff. When I trip, i make it a whole day or night when I can pay attention to nothing but where the psychs take me...with little or no interference from outside sources....this time is sacred to me.
I just can't imagine that tripping every single weekend or even more-often (not sure how that could be accomplished with a full time job or school) can be good for your overall psyche. It takes balance and integration into real life circumstance....not meant to overrule normal healthy life. I think tripping that often is just setting yourself up for depression at least on some scale.

I don't mean to sound condescending, but there is more to life.:sunny::peace:




No kidding.  But sometimes tripping IS my day job, so circumstances and people vary considerably.


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #22378666 - 10/14/15 01:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'd love to trip like every two weeks but shrooms are just too expensive for me atm :frown:


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    #22378691 - 10/14/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

For a minimum of $100, give or take (most likely you'll spend more than $100 though) you can grow all the mushrooms your heart desires. My guess is that living circumstances are holding you back though. :mushroomgrow:


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    #22378849 - 10/14/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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    #22379026 - 10/14/15 02:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I'd love to trip like every two weeks but shrooms are just too expensive for me atm :frown:




find a different dealer? Or buy more at once, if you're just buying 1/8ths its probably around 20-30 yeah? Should try to get an ounce or something, bulk dealers around here do ounces for 80


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    #22379270 - 10/14/15 03:34 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I honestly want to see people just be f****** healthy and positive:shrug:



I hear that homie.  Respect.  No response cause I was out mushroom hunting.  I don't personally understand how people get hooked on benzos.  They just make me sleepy and have very little euphoria, not anything I would ever take but for the express purpose of easing back into the stratosphere upon re-entry from hyperspace.  IMO you really have to hate your life to want to pop so many that you black out and go through life a pilled up zombie.  :shrug:


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    #22379426 - 10/14/15 04:00 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

More a man than me. I have the courage for Psilocybin about 5 times a year. Acid on the other hand is a whole different story.


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    #22379574 - 10/14/15 04:33 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

lol...
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No kidding.  But sometimes tripping IS my day job, so circumstances and people vary considerably.


....not many peeps can claim that for an occupation Primal...keep up the good work!:hatsoff:


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    #22379765 - 10/14/15 05:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

^ i'm just wondering if it pays well :smile:

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    #22380137 - 10/14/15 06:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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No kidding.  But sometimes tripping IS my day job, so circumstances and people vary considerably.


....not many peeps can claim that for an occupation Primal...keep up the good work!:hatsoff:





If I could write it off on my taxes (assuming I paid taxes) I would consider it excellent. :lol:  Not that it costs much to grow. :shrug:

And anyway, I've used them extensively for writing.  It can be fucking amazing, and there's nothing else I've ever found like it (and I've tried a lot of stuff).

Once you get past the first five hundred or so trips it changes quite a bit IME.

Hard to explain, but it becomse less like someplace you go sometimes and more like someplace you actually used to live, but for some reason lost - and can regain. :Awemush:


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    #22380813 - 10/14/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Well after these recent months, I've clearly answered my own question. This question can only be answered by oneself anyways since everyone's different. Now this has only been the last year or so of me frequently tripping. I seemed to have become attached with curiousity and wonder, but i couldn't tell you if I'll keep this habit or this frequency for there are priorities in life and the mind craves psychedelics only if it is beneficial and acceptable in that individual's eyes in that moment of time and space. Who knows... maybe one day you can meditate or lucid dream yourself into a trip.

I liked tripping weekly for awhile. Acid turned on me first. Then mushrooms became a little rough. All about the anxiety that was putting a damper on my trips. Im pretty sure it even caused a sciatica flareup. I wasn't tripping weekly during the summer months, but stuck to low doses when I did.

The past month or so, I tried using kratom and/or valium before or during the trip and holy shit, I could fly higher than ever before. Like way high doses and redoses of mushrooms. Same with L a few months ago actually. I think tripping that often put my body in a semi constant fight or flight mode previously. I became concerned and distracted by my health even while sober, hence the thread. I know it is kinda like cheating using anxiolytics for a psychedelic trip unless in case of emergency,  but even just using them as a precursor seemed to let me break that barrier and go where I never trusted myself to go that far. I kniw some will frown upon this comnbination, but as someone who likes to trip usually 2-4 times a month ish, it helps me get more out of the experience. For example, I would get anxiety at certain points in the trip before which would focus my attention on my health and serve as a distraction to what I really use it for. I like to use it as a tool and ask the deepest questions and look within while meditating. And it's hard to do that when your skin is crawling and all you can do is worry sometimes. I can't have a bad trip if I've taken an anxiolytic.

I do take extended breaks and try to keep my priorities in check... like when I run out lol. But as I've grown up, I have realized the potential therapeutic qualities rather than just for recreational amusement. Moderation is key in life though and always listen to your body.


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    #22380907 - 10/14/15 09:16 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah dude, I don't recommend tripping at all if you need a xannie just to deal.  One of the most healing aspects is learning to deal with fear, let go of the fear and conquer that anxiety.  Popping benzos and opioids to avoid that is cheating yourself of the ability to rise to the challenge, to conquer that weak part of yourself.  It really is diminishing the experience at that point, making it less about growth and more about diversion and escape. 

Diversion and escape are alright every once in a while, but that's the path to addiction and abuse if it becomes a regular, frequent raison d'etre kind of thing.  Other than a sleeping pill when the trip is over and I'm ready to crash, I try to only use some kind of adulterant every 3rd or 4th trip, otherwise you forget how to deal and you get lazy and I personally find the trips get flat, boring and lose the magic.  They're colorful and splashy but you just don't get any learning or divinity from your trips when you run away from the fear. 

If you do take something like MDMA, kratom or morphine at the beginning alongside your psychs, IMO it should be as a change of pace, special occasion deal or to explore new territories, not to hide from the negative aspects of the trip and ensure a light, happy party time every weekend. 

You can conquer the fear on your own dude, and if you can't, then you should take a break for a few months and start over real slow until you're back in the saddle.  I like hippy flips and I've enjoyed mixing morphine and mushrooms, but I make sure to still dose hard and deal with whatever comes my way the majority of the time I trip.  IMO, nothing beats taking a long absence then taking a pure unadulterated heroic dose of mushrooms and having a religious experience. :lol:


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    #22381279 - 10/14/15 10:45 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I can respect that. And i can admit I probably should take an extended break. I've definitely been in the process of building my life together and it's been a hectic year in general outside of tripping. But there is still a tradeoff.

Sometomes it's worth it IMO. It can be very therapeutic to be able to relax and trip while meditating with no anxiety whatsoever a couple times a month. Keep in mind, this is still a mind expanding and relatively safe experience. I guess you could say I don't want a ground shaking experience that makes me question whether I'm dying or not right now, but more of therapeutic  meditation session. It's good to have both and not abuse the experience. Physically, it's safe and mentally it's beneficial if you can keep your anxiety/fears from spiraling out of control.

You may not learn and grow as much from a trip with an anxiolytic, but it's definitely more beneficial than a bad trip that leaves you feeling worse afterwards. I'll know when I'm ready to ride without training wheels again, but is it perverted to alter the natural trip? Is it even natural for a human being to alter the mind to such abstract extents this often? To glimpse the other side that often with or without the use of other drugs? Probably not. Once you get the message, walk away? Or does the mind adapt and learn to crave the experience in some mutual relationship between man and mushroom that tricks the mind into thinking it's normal? Or is just an act of addictive behavior between man and inebriation?


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    #22381347 - 10/14/15 11:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I've been tripping on average every two weeks for the last three and a half years, and that's not even including drugs like kratom, weed, GHB, etc. I tend to trip the most during the summer, sometimes even as often as 1-3 times per week for months at a time.

I always type up a trip report for myself after every experience and have so far written 150+ pages. Perhaps someday I'll publish some of them into a psychedelic memoir.

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    #22381458 - 10/14/15 11:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'm so glad people trip as often as I do :lol: I thought I was the minority hearing about people only tripping like once or twice a year lol


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    #22381611 - 10/15/15 12:35 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Is it even natural for a human being to alter the mind to such abstract extents this often?




Well now, that's a pretty good question, and it kind of goes to the heart of the other question people rarely ask, which is "What the fuck is really going on with this stuff?" - one of my favorites. But I'm not going to tackle that one here though. :lol:

Is it natural?  Hmm.  Tripping often feels like regaining a lost memory of something ancestral and innately human.  Not in the sense of our modern limited linear world with all of its shitstorms of useless affectations, but rather in the fundamental sense of "these are human capacities."  Maybe they were lost or de-emphasized somewhere along the way and these sort of drugs restore the balance.  The capacity is still there, what you might choose to use it for is your freedom.

Because, once you get PAST the superficial aspects of tripping, IME you start finding something that really stands alone - or in select company - something that actually counts for more than the superficiality we're all generally spoon fed from birth.

I guess you could ask "Is it even natural for a human being to never alter their mind?" 

IME it's not about some sort of craving.  It's about what's actually out there, on what you might think is the "other side" - except that there are no sides there.  :thumbup:


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    #22381981 - 10/15/15 05:18 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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In all honesty, I can't imagine having so much free time in life to be able to do psychs as much as some here do. My weekends are so tied up with positive normal things like going to kids/ grandkids soccer games, baseball games or having dinner with family or friends. Doing yardwork, reading, playing guitar...just normal fun life stuff. When I trip, i make it a whole day or night when I can pay attention to nothing but where the psychs take me...with little or no interference from outside sources....this time is sacred to me.
I just can't imagine that tripping every single weekend or even more-often (not sure how that could be accomplished with a full time job or school) can be good for your overall psyche. It takes balance and integration into real life circumstance....not meant to overrule normal healthy life. I think tripping that often is just setting yourself up for depression at least on some scale.

I don't mean to sound condescending, but there is more to life.:sunny::peace:




No kidding.  But sometimes tripping IS my day job, so circumstances and people vary considerably.




Do you mean like some John Hopkins study or something where they pay volunteers to eat shrooms for research?


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    #22382413 - 10/15/15 08:32 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Do you mean like some John Hopkins study or something where they pay volunteers to eat shrooms for research?





No...Primal is researching all sorts of quantum theories and fascinating conjecture utilizing these enthogens as a catalyst to unlock some of the barriers that exist in a sober mind.....he is writing a book. If you want to know more about him...check out his journals.....most of what he talks about is above my intellect.lol


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No kidding.  But sometimes tripping IS my day job, so circumstances and people vary considerably.


....not many peeps can claim that for an occupation Primal...keep up the good work!:hatsoff:





If I could write it off on my taxes (assuming I paid taxes) I would consider it excellent. :lol:  Not that it costs much to grow. :shrug:

And anyway, I've used them extensively for writing.  It can be fucking amazing, and there's nothing else I've ever found like it (and I've tried a lot of stuff).

Once you get past the first five hundred or so trips it changes quite a bit IME.

Hard to explain, but it becomse less like someplace you go sometimes and more like someplace you actually used to live, but for some reason lost - and can regain. :Awemush:




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    #22382642 - 10/15/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Do you mean like some John Hopkins study or something where they pay volunteers to eat shrooms for research?





No...Primal is researching all sorts of quantum theories and fascinating conjecture utilizing these enthogens as a catalyst to unlock some of the barriers that exist in a sober mind.....he is writing a book. If you want to know more about him...check out his journals.....most of what he talks about is above my intellect.lol




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    #22383460 - 10/15/15 01:23 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Do you mean like some John Hopkins study or something where they pay volunteers to eat shrooms for research?





No...Primal is researching all sorts of quantum theories and fascinating conjecture utilizing these enthogens as a catalyst to unlock some of the barriers that exist in a sober mind.....he is writing a book. If you want to know more about him...check out his journals.....most of what he talks about is above my intellect.lol





Yeah, well, somebody has to do it.  :lol:  :peak:  :asianofapproval: 


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    #22383581 - 10/15/15 01:49 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

:sad:...I wanna trip with Primal....:firstladyofapproval:


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    #22383651 - 10/15/15 02:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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:sad:...I wanna trip with Primal....:firstladyofapproval:




Yeah, Primal is one of my favorite posters down here.

To the OP, if you're still around (this is an old thread after all), I trip about 2-4 times a month and have been doing so now for a few years.  I've learned a lot about myself and probably come away with more questions than absolute answers.  I think the biggest take away for me right now is learning to be okay with uncertainty.

Anyway I love to trip and as long as I don't take it too seriously I don't think it's been bad for my mental health or anything.


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    #22383657 - 10/15/15 02:11 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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:sad:...I wanna trip with Primal....:firstladyofapproval:



me too




...he only trips solo....I invited him!:bigyesnod:

...C'mon Primal!...coast trip in 2 weeks!:aweyeah::smugjerry:

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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #22383691 - 10/15/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I kinda figured him for a solo tripper.  I can relate.  Sometimes I dose when we have company over and it's alright but it's not quite the same as my solo trips.  Hard to lose myself when I'm trying to follow a conversation :rofl:


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22383728 - 10/15/15 02:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I kinda figured him for a solo tripper.  I can relate.  Sometimes I dose when we have company over and it's alright but it's not quite the same as my solo trips.  Hard to lose myself when I'm trying to follow a conversation :rofl:




I really like having other experienced psychonauts to trip with...I like that camaraderie!.... I feel synergy..lots of laughs!...We trip on location in the wilderness a lot and a group feels more safe! :trippnballs:

  I have been wanting to do a solo trip at home sometime soon and get a little more of that experience under my belt:awethumb:


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #22383767 - 10/15/15 02:38 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, out in the wilderness with good friends sounds fun.  Planning something like that with my dad and brother once my dad retires.

One of my favorite things is to just kick back and stare at the ceiling high as fuck.  It's like indoor cloud watching.


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22383838 - 10/15/15 03:02 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Yeah, out in the wilderness with good friends sounds fun.  Planning something like that with my dad and brother once my dad retires.

One of my favorite things is to just kick back and stare at the ceiling high as fuck.  It's like indoor cloud watching.




....ikr?... I've been trying to get my dad to trip! He's almost 65 and a little reluctant. He did a lot when he was younger but not for a long long time now! Keep me posted on that bro it sounds like an awesome experience if you can get them all together! I tripped with my son and it was a profound experience!:inlove3:

.. I really enjoy sitting on the couch in the sweet spot for the stereo with some awesome music cranked and a loaded bong in my lap!:mindexpanding:


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #22383877 - 10/15/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

My dad took a lot of acid and peyote when he was younger.  His eyes still light up when he talks about it.  Unfortunately he can get UAd at work pretty much whenever.  I don't think he's actually ever been UAd but it's a lot to risk his retirement on.

Him and me will for sure do it assuming nothing crazy happens to either of us in the next couple of years.  We've been talking about it for awhile now :laugh:

My brother and I live in separate states and haven't seen each other in 5 years.  I'm pretty sure he'd be down to join us but it might be a bit harder to get us all together.

Can't wait to trip with my kids!  Hopefully they're down when they get older.  Was that your son's first time?


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22383903 - 10/15/15 03:18 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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My dad took a lot of acid and peyote when he was younger.  His eyes still light up when he talks about it.  Unfortunately he can get UAd at work pretty much whenever.  I don't think he's actually ever been UAd but it's a lot to risk his retirement on.

Him and me will for sure do it assuming nothing crazy happens to either of us in the next couple of years.  We've been talking about it for awhile now :laugh:

My brother and I live in separate states and haven't seen each other in 5 years.  I'm pretty sure he'd be down to join us but it might be a bit harder to get us all together.

Can't wait to trip with my kids!  Hopefully they're down when they get older.  Was that your son's first time?




...maybe his 3rd time...was awesome!...remote beach...full moon...bonfire...Floyd!...trying to guide these kids right!.... the second time we took together was up in the Cascades and he had a bit of a weird time and spent most of his trip in his tent! He was fine but had kind of a weird experience I think:trippnballs:

...The Miles Davis was 2 much 4 him:canthelpbutlaugh:

.... trying to get together with my oldest and go have a trip!....soon:firstladyofapproval:


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22383911 - 10/15/15 03:20 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

UA's don't test for psolocin/psilocybin.

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    #22383923 - 10/15/15 03:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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UA's don't test for psolocin/psilocybin.

:vibin:



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    #22384088 - 10/15/15 03:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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UA's don't test for psolocin/psilocybin.

:vibin:




Yeah, psilocybin is rarely tested for and is pissed out pretty quick, it would be a negligible risk.  On the off chance my dad loses his shit, runs naked down the road, gets arrested, and gets fired...  I don't want to be the one explaining to my step mom what just happened to their retirement fund.

Plus right after retiring when you haven't dosed in 30 years sounds like a pretty nice set.  I think it'll be worth the wait.


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #22384415 - 10/15/15 04:59 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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I kinda figured him for a solo tripper.  I can relate.  Sometimes I dose when we have company over and it's alright but it's not quite the same as my solo trips.  Hard to lose myself when I'm trying to follow a conversation :rofl:




I really like having other experienced psychonauts to trip with...I like that camaraderie!.... I feel synergy..lots of laughs!...We trip on location in the wilderness a lot and a group feels more safe! :trippnballs:

  I have been wanting to do a solo trip at home sometime soon and get a little more of that experience under my belt:awethumb:




I've done the group thing in the past but not for a long time.  For where I've been taking this stuff the set and setting is hard enough to manage when there's just me - I can't imagine what it would be like with other people, frankly. :shrug:

What'll be cool is if other people can replicate some of the stuff on their own.  When time is fracturing and space isn't far behind the last thing I want to have to do is think, especially about baseline stuff.  I once spent about 15 minutes staring into a dresser drawer, trying to figure out how clothes worked... :laugh2:


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    #22389790 - 10/16/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Primal, can you link to your journals that people are referencing?

Thanks in advance


I'm going to trip tonight after about a 5-6 weeks hiatus. Anybody else? Im thinking of doing Syrian Rue along with it to save some fruits for later


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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: Zulu The Most High]
    #22389896 - 10/16/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Sure, journals

Probably look at more along the lines of superposition effects and the observer  and Learned from tripping and the "screaming ghosts" positive finding re superposition

I try to put cross links in those post, likely there are better ways to read it though, gotta sort all that out someday for www.scideus.org

The "tripping point" post isn't in the journals it's a trip report (which I hardly ever write) but I like it 'cause that's really what finally got me started (and if you want to talk about totally fucking weird shit it's got it in spades):  Primal's Tripping Point

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    #22390061 - 10/16/15 07:29 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah shrooms are much more for solo tripping IME. Acid can be more recreational and sociable though. I've become a lot more experienced in my opinion this past year with tripping that I feel more comfortable tripping as desirable, but if I feel reluctant, it's a no go. Never force the habit. I learned the hard way and only with the mushrooms permission will I fly :laugh:

Also, if I do shroom with anyone, it's usually one or two close friends and I make it mandatory now since I'm the most experienced that we all meditate in the dark in silence during the comeup and peak. Nature sounds in the background. This has become mandatory for all solo and group shroom trips. Just gets too hectic with distractions otherwise. I have yet to have a full out trip in the forest or camping like, but will eventually. I just feel so comfy in a pile of blankets and pillows haha. Baby steps...

Im in the middle of a short break here, but have no problem tripping 2-4 times a month shroomwise. Once a month or less if I take acid. Still have some experimenting to do with other psychs such as mescaline and smokeable dmt though. This is my calling at least for this chapter in my life and am so grateful for these experiences. I have felt the grip of illusory death many many times and truly see myswlf apart of the many LIVING grateful dead family. :wink:


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    #22390146 - 10/16/15 07:46 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I will have to check out your journals, etc Primal. You're a cool dood my friend, nice to see a mature group of regulars that I can/have learned a lot from. I have a feeling I'll be around for awhile too :smile:


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    #22390263 - 10/16/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks.  Having a cynical kind of day so shit like that helps. :thumbup:

I'm still capable of having my head completely taken off by the mushrooms, but you know, it always manages to reattach. :lol:


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    #22392510 - 10/17/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

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Thanks.  Having a cynical kind of day so shit like that helps. :thumbup:

I'm still capable of having my head completely taken off by the mushrooms, but you know, it always manages to reattach. :lol:




...where IS my head:confused:


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