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PrimalSoup
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Well said. I do those things, and more recently began my ongoing research into the anomalous physics engendered by psychedelics as well.
What's interesting is, well, how much more interesting it gets the more you're able to repeat it fully.
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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#22272860 - 09/22/15 07:14 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: Well said. I do those things, and more recently began my ongoing research into the anomalous physics engendered by psychedelics as well.
What's interesting is, well, how much more interesting it gets the more you're able to repeat it fully. 
What do you mean by anomalous physics engendered by psychedelics? And i seem to kinda use them strongly during a certain time frame like a summer. Then take a long break. I agree with using them frequently to evolve emotionally and work each and every problem out. Doing it just once a year or so just gives me a glimpse of what I should be working on. In a way, it's like having multiple therapy sessions for a while, then applying what you learned in therapy
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PrimalSoup
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See my journal if you're interested. I'm working at getting it more organized and online at scideus.org but ordinary work has been keeping me from both that and tripping recently.
My summer use is intense, but sadly, it didn't happen this year - failed crops due to biodegradable liners that came with contams...
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Zulu The Most High
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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: wolf8312]
#22279766 - 09/23/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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wolf8312 said: Well for one thing even if you compensate and double your last dose the trip is never as astounding as after waiting a month or so.
For me these are the kind of trips that tend to be warm and welcome me back as an old friend, but I can quickly out stay my welcome.
I think even a week isn't long enough and increases the risk of bad or much darker depressive type trips but of course thats maybe just me.
Dosing too often can for some mean 'chasing it' as with any drug and often people find they are tripping every week just because they lack something to fill the void that would be there if they didnt do so. Like PS said do you think you are able to stop, and why exactly do you feel the need to trip every week anyway? Where does such fidgety impatience come from?
People are often either unable to comprehend or are just not honest with themselves about their true motives for tripping all the time. People who talk about 'sacred learning experiences' are often in actuality just bored silly like everyone else!
When I look back to when I was younger and tripping as much as I could, I can see now that I was in a sense addicted to psychedelics. My motivation for using them evolved over time from actually loving them to using them because thats who I felt I was, and had to continue to be. It got to the point where I was having bad trips each time and yet still continued to trip!
In a way I was day to day, in a state of sanity but already insane at this point repeating the same mistake but expecting different results each time.
Eventually I experienced a psychotic breakdown and was hospitalized...
At the time I had no conscious awareness that my fear of stopping psychedelics was worse even than my growing fear of psychedelics, but it was this inability to stop despite all the warning signs that doomed me to the genuine Hell on earth, that is the psychotic breakdown.. Cannabis too of course!
Examining my own motivations, I was a very lonely and unhappy individual at that time, and was using psychedelics and the astounding experience that they produced to convince myself that it was I myself who was special. It was all part of an identity I created for myself but really was textbook overcompensation.
Without psychedelics I didnt have anything else and was terrified of what I would do or be without them. They were the only thing that made me special and I had this ridiculous image of myself as some kind of far out and misunderstood genius!
At that time I felt I didnt have anybody else, and didnt believe I really had a future. I have no idea where I could possibly of thought I was going back then and at what point had I chosen to choose psychedelic drugs over life itself.
Part of me thinks I chose to continue because the only way to stop the train was to crash it, and to be honest I didnt use psychedlics for a long time after the break.
Its a strange contradiction indeed that someone would for egotistical reasons use an ego attacking drug like LSD in order to somehow escape from reality and his subconcious by facing it head on! The results were predictably disastrous! It does happen quite alot though and I have seen others on the shroomery who fit a similar profile.
Be sure to honestly examine your own life and ask yourself truthfully if you are a happy person and get the hell away from psychdelic drugs if the answer to this question is negative. Its difficult to warn people like this however because they are deluding themselves.
I've said it before but I think its solid advice:- if you are using these substances be sure to take care that you are basing psychedelics around your life, and not basing your life around psychedelics.
Psychedelics do not in any way deserve that level of attention, and if you find yourself thinking about nothing else take stock!
I think I used to spend all my time either reading, writing, talking about, preparing, or actually doing psychedelics. It was just not a healthy mindset!
OK gonna now check if this has anything whatsoever to do with the OP!
Lol damned Kratom rambles!
Thanks for this post.
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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#22281343 - 09/23/15 09:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: See my journal if you're interested. I'm working at getting it more organized and online at scideus.org but ordinary work has been keeping me from both that and tripping recently.
My summer use is intense, but sadly, it didn't happen this year - failed crops due to biodegradable liners that came with contams...
...there are other seasons brother....your time is coming soon!
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PrimalSoup
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Nope, summer rules. Mostly because it's hot and sunny and I don't get the chills from the shrooms during the comeup - and while tripping the heat is much more tolerable for some reason than otherwise. 
Might do some for a couple months this winter though. Storms can be way cool. 
Getting back to PE cult now. Gotta pasturize a mess of sub - I've got like 14 qt jars of PE on rye just waiting for a brand new home.
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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: Zombi3]
#22281581 - 09/23/15 10:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Zombi3 said: Hippy flip > candy flip
IMO
Because the two substances mix better given their similar time lines.
I agree, I think that MDMA transforms mushrooms more positively than it does LSD. I'd love to try mixing MDA with LSD though, that would be fucking supreme.
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wolf8312
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Zulu The Most High said:
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wolf8312 said: Well for one thing even if you compensate and double your last dose the trip is never as astounding as after waiting a month or so.
For me these are the kind of trips that tend to be warm and welcome me back as an old friend, but I can quickly out stay my welcome.
I think even a week isn't long enough and increases the risk of bad or much darker depressive type trips but of course thats maybe just me.
Dosing too often can for some mean 'chasing it' as with any drug and often people find they are tripping every week just because they lack something to fill the void that would be there if they didnt do so. Like PS said do you think you are able to stop, and why exactly do you feel the need to trip every week anyway? Where does such fidgety impatience come from?
People are often either unable to comprehend or are just not honest with themselves about their true motives for tripping all the time. People who talk about 'sacred learning experiences' are often in actuality just bored silly like everyone else!
When I look back to when I was younger and tripping as much as I could, I can see now that I was in a sense addicted to psychedelics. My motivation for using them evolved over time from actually loving them to using them because thats who I felt I was, and had to continue to be. It got to the point where I was having bad trips each time and yet still continued to trip!
In a way I was day to day, in a state of sanity but already insane at this point repeating the same mistake but expecting different results each time.
Eventually I experienced a psychotic breakdown and was hospitalized...
At the time I had no conscious awareness that my fear of stopping psychedelics was worse even than my growing fear of psychedelics, but it was this inability to stop despite all the warning signs that doomed me to the genuine Hell on earth, that is the psychotic breakdown.. Cannabis too of course!
Examining my own motivations, I was a very lonely and unhappy individual at that time, and was using psychedelics and the astounding experience that they produced to convince myself that it was I myself who was special. It was all part of an identity I created for myself but really was textbook overcompensation.
Without psychedelics I didnt have anything else and was terrified of what I would do or be without them. They were the only thing that made me special and I had this ridiculous image of myself as some kind of far out and misunderstood genius!
At that time I felt I didnt have anybody else, and didnt believe I really had a future. I have no idea where I could possibly of thought I was going back then and at what point had I chosen to choose psychedelic drugs over life itself.
Part of me thinks I chose to continue because the only way to stop the train was to crash it, and to be honest I didnt use psychedlics for a long time after the break.
Its a strange contradiction indeed that someone would for egotistical reasons use an ego attacking drug like LSD in order to somehow escape from reality and his subconcious by facing it head on! The results were predictably disastrous! It does happen quite alot though and I have seen others on the shroomery who fit a similar profile.
Be sure to honestly examine your own life and ask yourself truthfully if you are a happy person and get the hell away from psychdelic drugs if the answer to this question is negative. Its difficult to warn people like this however because they are deluding themselves.
I've said it before but I think its solid advice:- if you are using these substances be sure to take care that you are basing psychedelics around your life, and not basing your life around psychedelics.
Psychedelics do not in any way deserve that level of attention, and if you find yourself thinking about nothing else take stock!
I think I used to spend all my time either reading, writing, talking about, preparing, or actually doing psychedelics. It was just not a healthy mindset!
OK gonna now check if this has anything whatsoever to do with the OP!
Lol damned Kratom rambles!
Thanks for this post.
Thanks for the thanks dude!
Please dont thank me for thanking you for the thanks, as I would then have to thank you for thanking me for the thanks, and it could get messy!
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PsyMindz86
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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: nwalker248]
#22374942 - 10/13/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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nwalker248 said: People say that tolerance takes 2 weeks to go, but I saw this chart once (no idea how accurate but looks like it was part of a study) that showed that probably 80% of that tolerance is gone within the first 3/4 days, and then it slowly goes down over the next week or whatever.
this.... 2 to 4 days for me...........
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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: PsyMindz86]
#22375418 - 10/13/15 07:58 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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When I first started tripping I would dose weekly and sometimes even twice a week. A few times I tripped 3 times in one week then I decided that I was doing it too often. I would trip on shroom, acid, 4-aco-dmt and mescaline once or twice. I don't think I can go back to doing that again. Mostly because the end of that period was due to a bitch slap the mushrooms gave me.
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Bigfeely123
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I was tripping every week for over a year. My last trip was about a month and a week ago. I feel that tripping this often can only take a toll on your mind. The thoughts and realizations that you believe (wether they are true or not) you have come to understand are just too much.. for me at least. I know that everyone is different and drugs effects everyone differently but me personally, now more than ever, I am depressed almost all the time. I'm not 100% sure that the frequent psychedelic use contributed to me feeling severely depressed all the time but it just seems that it is more than a coincidence. I could very well be wrong though... Like I said, I'm not 100% sure. Nonetheless, frequent psychedelic use will skyrocket your tolerance and you will only have to keep ingesting more and more to achieve the same desired effects. And I know this has been said countless times on this forum but the "magic" does get lost. After a while it just seems like you're in a familiar place and I, personally, used to really enjoy and be amazed at how foreign and alien a psychedelic trip was. I am taking a break from all drugs in general in order to try to improve my mental health. That's not to say that I won't ever use psychedelics in the future. Psychedelics have become a part of my life and who I am. OP, maybe try to take a little break for you wallet but more importantly your mental wellbeing. Take care.
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Heisencybin
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Yeah I learned pretty quickly this is not a smart move as I was bitch slapped by the mushroom gods as well. I think my mind can handle 2-3 times a month on shrooms. Acid is harder on me so once a month max for that. I evwn cut back smoking to 1-3 times a weekend instead of daily. But if I'm really actually tripping this often, there still are big gaps of time where I fade away for a little while. Even months. Good to give your brain a break and contemplate/utilize what you have learned. Actually in the middle of an extended break right now. I want to wait another month or two, get a regular shroom trip in, then prepare to try mescaline for the first time...
Moderation is key in life
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FRAID SO - what with society we live in now... the two dont gel wel together... shame
what the dmt said to me... dont loose the magic of this place in your perception keep it far in far between... in otherwords... trip hard once a month not every other day....
weed i seriously need to cut down... why i turned to psilocybin to help me off it..
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Edited by PsyMindz86 (10/14/15 08:58 AM)
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Bigfeely123
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"Moderation is key in life"
That is something that I am just starting to assimilate now at this point of my life. I haven't smoked nor tripped in over a month now (a month and about a week) and my mind feels more out of "out of whack", for a lack of a better term, then ever. Before this intermission, I was smoking every day 2-4 times a day, maybe missing a handful of days out of the year, for close to a decade-about 7 years or so. And tripping every week for over a year (I never tripped more than once in one week). It astounds me when I think about how much money I've spent especially when I consider myself pretty darn cheap-I wont even spend over $50 on a pair of shoes. I would estimate I've spent somewhere in between $7000-8000 altogether (weed and psychedelics included). Do I fully regret it? In some warped sense of thinking, no... not totally.
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Bigfeely123
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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: PsyMindz86]
#22377515 - 10/14/15 09:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hi PsyMindz86, how are you doing?
Just so I can fully comprehend your comment I would like to ask you what you meant or were replying to when you said "FRAID SO - what with society we live in now... the two don't gel wel together... shame"
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The most often I've ever tripped was twice in a month spread out 2 weeks and that's the only time. And it was both a low dose, 2g of cubes. I could never trip weekly or once every 2 weeks for that matter for me it ranges from once every 3-5 months in general depending on the dose I stick to 2-3g of cubes.
They're just too moving and powerful for me to ever want to get "use" to that type of experience. Once a week or 2 just seems too damn close, I want to have a trip, integrate it into my life, work on my self, forget about the trip then whenever I feel like im ready to trip again I do, in my case 2-5 months for a standard 2-3g dose and once a year at my rate for ego death experiences. I just cant see enjoying using them 1-2 times a week or 2, they would become more of an abuse in my eyes, something doing out of habit or for reasons unknown. It's a very sacred and meaningful time for me when I take mushrooms, on any dose and it's usually to find out something inside of me, perspective change, immersion of thought patterns and sometimes just for fun, I feel like I would start believing more of what I feel think and see in the mushroom world than actual reality, might become a problem. I like to stay in reality for awhile then have my perspective smashed and changed once every couple months everyone's different there's a lot worse things you could be doing than using a natural fungus once a week honestly, one would be acid
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wolf8312
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Heisencybin said: Yeah I learned pretty quickly this is not a smart move as I was bitch slapped by the mushroom gods as well. I think my mind can handle 2-3 times a month on shrooms. Acid is harder on me so once a month max for that. I evwn cut back smoking to 1-3 times a weekend instead of daily. But if I'm really actually tripping this often, there still are big gaps of time where I fade away for a little while. Even months. Good to give your brain a break and contemplate/utilize what you have learned. Actually in the middle of an extended break right now. I want to wait another month or two, get a regular shroom trip in, then prepare to try mescaline for the first time...
Moderation is key in life
With mescaline and acid I love the actual trip and have more of a fun and recreational experience while tripping but the come down or that period when the peak is over can be excruciating and I dont think I can bear it any more now I'm getting older. There's very little value to the torturously repetitive thought processes at that point either intellectually or ascetically and I feel like I want to scream because I cant sleep.
I also get alot of guilt and feelings that I should grow up and try to focus on my life more and stop putting myself and my wife at risk no matter how small the chances of apprehension are.
Flushed my entire stash this week and although I am bitterly regretting it now sober, I wont get locked into a collection like that any more as I trip only a couple of times a year and yet had copious amounts of all kinds of shit!
Tripping when you have mescaline and cactus, DMT and bark, as well as mushrooms and a shit load of growing materials is just horrible.
Isnt the first time I have flushed my stash when tripping though! It actually felt like they were coming and even if not why was I taking the risk?
Doh! Could have at least saved something! Pretty fucking costly trip huh?
I'm thinking it was for the best though!
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Re: Anyone trip this much? [Re: wolf8312]
#22377702 - 10/14/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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wolf8312 said: With mescaline and acid I love the actual trip and have more of a fun and recreational experience while tripping but the come down or that period when the peak is over can be excruciating and I dont think I can bear it any more now I'm getting older. There's very little value to the torturously repetitive thought processes at that point either intellectually or ascetically and I feel like I want to scream because I cant sleep.
Dude, just get some benzos. Bypass the entire comedown period completely and fall asleep. Once you're old and have obligations in the morning and can't afford to be hungover and useless, tripping early, then popping a benzo at the end of a trip is an elegant solution to avoid any uncomfortable period of feeling strung out, nasty and worried about falling asleep. Wake up in the morning relatively refreshed.
Sucks about the stash, I've had trips where I get all guilty and paranoid about grows and shit but I've never dumped everything like that.
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Benzos during a trip? 
edit: To each his own. I, personally, would only use benzos in a fight or flight situation during a bad trio. Not saying you're way of ending a trip is the right or wrong way.
Edited by Bigfeely123 (10/14/15 10:09 AM)
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P.Zappatecorum
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Bigfeely123 said: Benzos during a trip? 
edit: To each his own. I, personally, would only use benzos in a fight or flight situation during a bad trio. Not saying you're way of ending a trip is the right or wrong way.
No fool, benzos when the trip is over and you can't sleep and are feeling empty, shitty and burnt out.
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