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Re: California drought [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22253529 - 09/17/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Once we start moving water from California,  thats water that will never come back.




Good lord. I can't even imagine how your brain conceptualizes the way the world works, because this is just beyond absurd


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Re: California drought [Re: WhyDidiDoThis]
    #22253535 - 09/17/15 09:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah but in order to have things like rain and regular humidity you've got to have fertile soil and greenery, and modern farms are eager to use chemicals that both pollute the existing water supply and burn out the soil's ability to sustain the complex ecosystems that once existed there.  Getting rid of the natural ecosystem is more of a problem than bottling water, which is just a drop in the bucket.  We are seeing this impact all over the planet, with wildlife and people who depend on the natural landscape taking the brunt of the damage but sooner or later we will likely suffer as well.


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Re: California drought [Re: koods] * 1
    #22253551 - 09/17/15 09:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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koods said:
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Once we start moving water from California,  thats water that will never come back.




Good lord. I can't even imagine how your brain conceptualizes the way the world works, because this is just beyond absurd




I dont understand you.
It makes perfect sense. Bottle our water. Give it to new york. Its now new yorks water. Not californias. Which could be used however California would like to use it.


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Re: California drought [Re: WhyDidiDoThis]
    #22253584 - 09/17/15 09:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Wanna see why your idea that bottled water is what is causing the drought is absurd? I'm not an expert but I just did some Googling to look at the numbers. Your idea really is astronomically absurd.

General bottle of water is about 16 ozs, sold in 24 packs, that's 3 gallons. In one acre foot of water, there are over 325,000 gallons of water. The largest reservoir of water in California is over 4.5 million acre feet. So do the math. Do you realize how much damn bottled water it'd take to even make a dent in that? That is only ONE reservoir.


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Re: California drought [Re: WhyDidiDoThis]
    #22253608 - 09/17/15 10:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well California chose to use that water for financial benefit.  Nobody is really having a hard time accessing drinking water right now, and that isn't around the corner as long as fossil fuels hold out, I think the more imminent danger is desertification caused by drought, which results in less food, less revenue from food, as well as potentially irreversible danger to the environment.  We always could just clean out ocean water to drink, and that would be enough, but that is completely unsustainable for the needs of farms.

I mean the real losers here are Mexico if you're going to talk about stealing water, but nobody seems to care too much about their rivers drying up.

Realistically running out of drinking water isn't as much of a problem as inflation of food prices caused by drought, at least for the near future.


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Re: California drought [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22253689 - 09/17/15 10:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Wanna see why your idea that bottled water is what is causing the drought is absurd? I'm not an expert but I just did some Googling to look at the numbers. Your idea really is astronomically absurd.

General bottle of water is about 16 ozs, sold in 24 packs, that's 3 gallons. In one acre foot of water, there are over 325,000 gallons of water. The largest reservoir of water in California is over 4.5 million acre feet. So do the math. Do you realize how much damn bottled water it'd take to even make a dent in that? That is only ONE reservoir.



I understand. But its enough to make a dent in springs and creeks, enough so they have to chsnge locations for better water output. Among all of the water used, it mainly comes back to nature. One way or another. Through the evaporation cycle, or defecation. Citys drink their piss. Fact. Sewage goes through a distillation process, and is further treated. Farmlands reuse the water. Indirectly. Due to evaporation, or underground watereays, which are everywhere. All the massive quantities of water comeback. But when we ship water out of state, that water, leaves the state. For good. Think of an oil leak. It leaks oil, doesnt run out too fast. But you have to put more in. And the cycle is complete once you put more oil in. But your still losing some oil all of forever. Instead of all the oily goodness lubricanting the gears for eternity. Now the oil leak, is our bottling comapines. We will only get water back through rain, snowpack, or sewage. Fact. If we have been having a drought for he last 1000 years not getting efficient rain fall, its only a matter of time before things dry up. And shipping water in the cycle, out of state mskes process harder.

So what if you are a millionaire. If you lost a quarter every minute, youd have enough money not to sweat it, but eventually,  you will be out of money.


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Re: California drought [Re: WhyDidiDoThis]
    #22254005 - 09/17/15 11:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

While we're thinking of oil, they're a huge polluter of water.  The fact is that next to industry all the people in the country's drinking doesn't begin to compare.



All that should be scrubland.  If it were, the soil would hold more water, and that water would be usable.  They are turning that land into desert.


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Re: California drought [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #22254198 - 09/18/15 12:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

bottle water industry takes off, drought starts, coincidence? I think not.  Farm water, even golf course water, goes back down into the earth, its about the water table level.  Large tree's have deep roots that gain access to some of the water table, and soil in contact with it also transfers a small amount of it back top.  When you lower the water table too low your cutting off what would have kept grass n shit alive for another week or two without a rain.  Plants use each other to live, that's why large tree's are important, that's why the water table is important.  Bottled water and maybe some dams n shit is 100% the reason this is happening.  It also benefits the bottled water industry because if they can pull enough water to cause a drought guess what happens to bottled water prices.

if bottled water isn't causing it, ask yourself why if theirs a drought and they want people to limit their water usage, they havn't said a single word to the bottled water people to stop.........ding ding ding


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