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California drought
#22253267 - 09/17/15 08:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Did everyone in California forget they have the fucking ocean right by their side? Why don't they just setup big ass water filtering shits and shit? They have like, literally all the water in the world.
Bill Gates can turn poop into drinkable water & yet nobody in California can filter salt out of water?
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And the drought isnt caused by lack of rainfall. Its the bottle watering companys. They bottle up all the water, and ship it all over the US. Now sll the hippies in my hometown arent even educated, when they bitch at people using ater. Like, stop bitchin at the people, snd start boycotting the damn water companies. Real.
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Because it's expensive to do that.
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Re: California drought [Re: 404]
#22253330 - 09/17/15 08:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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i'm not an authority on this, but i dont know why they dont desalinate water.
Dubai gets practically all of their water via desalination, yet it has half of the GDP per capita that california has
so i dont think the issue is that desalination is too expensive.
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Re: California drought [Re: Adolin]
#22253344 - 09/17/15 08:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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TORCUTT said: And the drought isnt caused by lack of rainfall. Its the bottle watering companys. They bottle up all the water, and ship it all over the US. Now sll the hippies in my hometown arent even educated, when they bitch at people using ater. Like, stop bitchin at the people, snd start boycotting the damn water companies. Real.
I think you're joking, but I'm pretty sure agriculture and livestock expanding into the desert are the main culprits, along with the soil/landscape erosion that goes along with modern farming techniques.
Permaculture and holistic farming are the answer. You could dump the whole ocean onto the land but if the water doesn't retain there's no point, it'll just wash it out even more.
Think someone posted this in another thread recently:
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Re: California drought [Re: Adolin] 2
#22253381 - 09/17/15 09:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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TORCUTT said: And the drought isnt caused by lack of rainfall. Its the bottle watering companys. They bottle up all the water, and ship it all over the US. Now sll the hippies in my hometown arent even educated, when they bitch at people using ater. Like, stop bitchin at the people, snd start boycotting the damn water companies. Real.
What? You're joking right? It takes more water to irrigate one large farm for a year than is bottled in the entire state. The scale of the drought is by orders if magnitude larger than bottled waters impact.
Seriously, where did you get the idea that you could ship all the states water out in Bottles.
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Gresh said: i'm not an authority on this, but i dont know why they dont desalinate water.
Dubai gets practically all of their water via desalination, yet it has half of the GDP per capita that california has
so i dont think the issue is that desalination is too expensive.
Dubai has cheap energy. Desalination requires an absurd amount of energy.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2015/09/14/scientists-say-its-been-500-years-since-california-was-this-dry/
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Researchers knew California’s drought was already a record breaker when they set out to find its exact place in history, but they were surprised by what they discovered: It has been 500 years since what is now the Golden State has been this dry.
California is in the fourth year of a severe drought with temperatures so high and precipitation so low that rain and snow evaporate almost as soon as they hit the ground. A research paper released Monday said an analysis of blue oak tree rings in the state’s Central Valley showed that the amount of mountain snow California relies on for moisture hasn’t been so low since the 1500s. That was around the time when European explorers landed in what became San Diego, when Columbus set off on a final voyage to the Caribbean, when King Henry VIII was alive.
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Re: California drought [Re: koods]
#22253414 - 09/17/15 09:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said:
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Gresh said: i'm not an authority on this, but i dont know why they dont desalinate water.
Dubai gets practically all of their water via desalination, yet it has half of the GDP per capita that california has
so i dont think the issue is that desalination is too expensive.
Dubai has cheap energy. Desalination requires an absurd amount of energy.
that makes sense. i guess Dubai doesnt use much water growing crops either being a fuckin desert and all
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Re: California drought [Re: koods]
#22253436 - 09/17/15 09:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said: Seriously, where did you get the idea that you could ship all the states water out in Bottles.
I can picture the boardroom meetings of Coke and Pepsi and some old guy like "Fuck California, we're gonna give the rest of the country all their water."
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Re: California drought [Re: Adolin] 1
#22253442 - 09/17/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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obviously the solution is for california to go beat up dubai and steal thier desalination supplies
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Re: California drought [Re: 404]
#22253448 - 09/17/15 09:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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404 said: Because it's expensive to do that.
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And the drought isnt caused by lack of rainfall. Its the bottle watering companys. They bottle up all the water, and ship it all over the US. Now sll the hippies in my hometown arent even educated, when they bitch at people using ater. Like, stop bitchin at the people, snd start boycotting the damn water companies. Real.
Im not sure about further north but I can tell you that the Bay Area has been dryer than most people I've talked with can remember. The rains falls only for a day then temps warm up to the 90's - 100's and remain dry until the next single rain. I've noticed there are usually low rains after high fires, maybe its coincidence.
TORCUTT, is right about the atate of California having plenty of drinking water for the whole country to drink which is why California ships water to other states who aren't surrounded by water.
In my county,m the water company wants to charge higher utility rates to run water when the reality is california has enough water , just Mother Nature isn't providing like she has been.
. I know for sure that nestle chocolate company sells water from the Sacramento River and that's just because nestle is the water I buy.
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Re: California drought [Re: Adolin]
#22253479 - 09/17/15 09:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The water used on farms, and tap, comes back. It cycles. Down the drain, to the sewer, to treatment, to your faucet all over again. Farm lands, it either evaporates, or seeps into the ground water, in which there are thousands of underground rivers.And wells. Once we start moving water from California, thats water that will never come back. California is singlehandedly the largest bottled water producer. Yes farming in the desert 7s stupid. For it lacks underground water ways and thats also water wasted. We piss into our toilets at the end of the day. And the sewagr company turns it into water. We are removing water from one locstion to give it to 49 other locations. Water should be used locally. Not distributed.
http://www.desertsun.com/story/news/2015/03/05/bottling-water-california-drought/24389417/
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Not to mention most statistics released by water company's such as nestle sre foraged. They are in bed making billions of dollars. Making those who enforce the laws rich, in turn, not enforcing laws.
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That's considered "grey" water though, which isn't drinkable. Also as time goes on expanding agriculture and land development results in less and less water being retained by the soil, which is part of the problem.
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People who forage statistics should be sitting in prison.
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It seeps past the soil into underground, million yesrs old water ways. Or evaporates to be rained again. Its not a big dea,. Nature makes sure it can reuse its water. The human element makes it hard.
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