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HPPD poll 1
#22250840 - 09/17/15 11:55 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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So I'm wondering how many of you guys have hppd. If you don't know what it is, it's Hallucinogen Persistent Perception Disorder.
Feel free to ask questions and add input.
Here is a continuation of this poll asking another question(same thread) http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22251185#22251185
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Not really Bitter cactus brought it up, so I made this thread
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I picked STAL because I usually get some kind of lasting symptoms for about a month after every use with psychs, but usually only when I smoke weed.
The only time I thought I truly had it was after studying the fuck out of it, had a mushroom trip, and had slight lasting visuals that I couldn't stop paying attention to for about 3 months, you can even go through my main thread history and see me panicking about it a while ago. It stopped after I decided to take mushrooms again and during my trip realized I was just being overly conscious about it and it went away directly after the trip ended.
Haven't had any symptoms since and probably tripped 3-6 times since the time it seemed to last.
So for me it was anxiety+weed=minor hppd. When I first started taking lsd I had noticable visuals everytime I smoked weed for months but it was probably because I took 300+ug doses like 5 times in 2 and a half weeks with heavy weed use.
Ever since I stopped worrying about it I haven't even noticed it though unless I decide to stare a large bright flat surface like white walls or something, but I just don't stare at white walls so it isn't a problem 
Most of the stuff I attributed to HPPD I eventually remembered that I've seen throughout my entire life and only decided to attribute it to psychs after taking them, because before psychs I never had a reason to think anything of it. It's definitely a real condition for some people but I think it's a minimal number of users and would of never happened for me if I didn't study it and what it was.
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Are you speaking of spiritual awekening? Because I like to think that in spiritual sense we are all the same.
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I voted minor. I've felt weird things before, but I also haven't used in a few years 
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i have hppd pretty bad. i haven't used psychedelics in a few months, and i still see colors, morphing, auras, and shit like that. it feels like i am tripping all the time, sometimes it is worse though.
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That's funny so far more people have HPPD then they don't LMAO.
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ONE PERCENT MY DICK it is fucking common as shit with psychedelic users.
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Slight HPPD would be something that isn't a problem in day to day life whatsoever. Maybe static or the occasional morphing.
Slight is much different from severe.
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I don't care it is still a fucking annoying and I don't even have severe HPPD. Stop downplaying it this needs to be acknowledged for what it is. A chronic, often times life long condition from tripping.
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Only thing i have noticed is the static thing against plain backgrounds. I believe what sirshroomsalott said is all hppd is. I thought i had it at one point then realized i was just being stupid and blowing it way out of proportion.
Its hard for me to believe its a real problem...not from psychedelics atleast. Maybe from abuse of a different drug like meth or something.
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Stop turning an issue that will more than likely not interfere with your life at all into a disorder that will end the world.
How many people do you know that have done psychedelics? How many of them are so debilitated by HPPD that they cannot function and perform day to day activities?
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i voted slight.
My HPPD has been very minor lately. Usually, i have CEVs when im about to go to bed. Now, i get nothing. Kinda miss it.
And BitterCatcus, if you are so upset about HPPD, then u got a very easy life my friend.
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That's normal shit man... maybe you started noticing it a lot more after experiencing psychedelics...but it's a normal thing and happens to a lot of people. That is not HPPD.
I too thought it might be, but I was wrong.
http://scienceline.org/2014/12/why-do-we-see-colors-with-our-eyes-closed/
"As you settle into bed at night, close your eyes and begin to doze off, you may notice the colorful light show happening inside your eyelids. When you rub the sleep from your weary eyes, the lights suddenly intensify and bursts of bright colors appear all across your field of vision. A few seconds later, the colors settle down again. While you might appreciate the bedtime entertainment, in the back of your drowsy mind you’ve probably wondered what the heck you’re even seeing." ... "The only people who never see phosphenes are people who have been blind since birth. But people who lose their vision due to illnesses or injuries usually don’t lose all visual functions. Because phosphenes can originate in different parts of the visual system, “theoretically, all blind people who could previously see can retain the ability to see phosphenes,” explained Bókkon."
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Re: HPPD poll [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22251076 - 09/17/15 12:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Its Biophotons?
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Re: HPPD poll [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22251081 - 09/17/15 12:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's cool they found out what that was, when I was younger I used to ask people if they saw what I called like "dull fireworks" whenever they closed their eyes and no one knew what I was talking about, that was long before psych use. I was probably just explaining what it was poorly at the time lol.
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Re: HPPD poll [Re: sh4d0ws]
#22251084 - 09/17/15 12:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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sh4d0ws said: That's normal shit man... maybe you started noticing it a lot more after experiencing psychedelics...but it's a normal thing and happens to a lot of people. That is not HPPD.
I too thought it might be, but I was wrong.
http://scienceline.org/2014/12/why-do-we-see-colors-with-our-eyes-closed/
"As you settle into bed at night, close your eyes and begin to doze off, you may notice the colorful light show happening inside your eyelids. When you rub the sleep from your weary eyes, the lights suddenly intensify and bursts of bright colors appear all across your field of vision. A few seconds later, the colors settle down again. While you might appreciate the bedtime entertainment, in the back of your drowsy mind you’ve probably wondered what the heck you’re even seeing." ... "The only people who never see phosphenes are people who have been blind since birth. But people who lose their vision due to illnesses or injuries usually don’t lose all visual functions. Because phosphenes can originate in different parts of the visual system, “theoretically, all blind people who could previously see can retain the ability to see phosphenes,” explained Bókkon."
No dawg that shit is normal. HPPD is persistent perceptive problems after taking psychedelics.
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Majority of people have HPPD so far to some degree in this thread and people say it is "very uncommon."
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I think those people are doing what I did and attributing visual disturbances they've always had to psych use because before psych use they never had a reason to think anything of it which is why most people say slight, since that's what I called mine in the several threads I made about it when I was worried, luckily I stopped paying attention to it and it stopped instantly thanks to another mushroom trip.
It's clearly a real thing for some people, I just personally think that number is minimal.
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hppd is more than just having visuals. it can also effect your psyche pretty hard. it can make you so delusional and spacey that common everyday activities become a chore. most won't experience hppd so dramatically cause they don't use psychedelics as heavily as certain individuals.
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The number is not minimal.
And let me be clear.
Most people have some visual disturbances before psychedelics.
But look at the name of HPPD
Hallucinogen persisting perception disorder
- basically means perceptive disorder persisting the ingestion of a psychedelic
You may have had minor visual disturbances before tripping, but you are excluded from the diagnosis of HPPD. Just like someone who has never done meth cannot get amphetamine psychosis.
HPPD can lead to depersonalization, derealization, depression, anxiety ect.
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Somehow all of my friends have had either hppd or at least some weirdness following them around for months after lsd use... to me this is strange, as every time I've taken lsd I felt totally normal the next day. Makes me think I'm not taking enough
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Re: HPPD poll [Re: Ezuma]
#22251139 - 09/17/15 01:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: Somehow all of my friends have had either hppd or at least some weirdness following them around for months after lsd use... to me this is strange, as every time I've taken lsd I felt totally normal the next day. Makes me think I'm not taking enough 
Exactly. When I asked the people in the WCA about HPPD a while back almost all of them have it to some degree.
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Well, here's another poll for you guys. I'm gonna link it in the OP.
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I am just gonna say it may not adversely effect your life that much, but I bet if you could wave a magic wand you would choose to have it go away.
I do think new trippers should know that based on the original poll, there is a 50 percent chance they will have persisting hallucinations for a long time, potentially for the rest of their lives.
They should decide before ingesting that drug whether or not they are okay with that and if so let's start tripping boys!
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It's been two years since my last trip I think (rough estimate.) First is maybe three years.
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Mr. Magic said: Only thing i have noticed is the static thing against plain backgrounds. I believe what sirshroomsalott said is all hppd is. I thought i had it at one point then realized i was just being stupid and blowing it way out of proportion.
Its hard for me to believe its a real problem...not from psychedelics atleast. Maybe from abuse of a different drug like meth or something.
Yup my situation exactly
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Re: HPPD poll [Re: Tybg]
#22251418 - 09/17/15 02:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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And BC seriously look into Paroxetine
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Re: HPPD poll [Re: Tybg]
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Mr. Magic said: Only thing i have noticed is the static thing against plain backgrounds. I believe what sirshroomsalott said is all hppd is. I thought i had it at one point then realized i was just being stupid and blowing it way out of proportion.
Its hard for me to believe its a real problem...not from psychedelics atleast. Maybe from abuse of a different drug like meth or something.
Yup my situation exactly
ive always had visual snow, long before i tripped. so maybe I was just weird to begin with
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Re: HPPD poll [Re: Ezuma]
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To my knowledge HPPD is a life long condition.
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Re: HPPD poll [Re: Ezuma]
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Bitter cactus keeps saying to look at what hppd is. And that just because we humans have a name for such a condition, it must be real and it must happen a lot.
Not exactly
What is hppd? Well its a label we have for a complaint we have. We gave it that label so we can recognize and relate to other people.
Dont be so afraid and annoyed with it. Just be happy there is a name for the feelings youre experiencing. Ever consider that some shamans or spiritual gurus have drugs figured out as well as the mind? And that they see this change in perception (what we call hppd) as a teaching or awakening. But those who fear this lesson will live with it untill they realize their lesson.
What lesson could hallucinogens or even the aftermath (hallucinogen perceptual persisting disorder) have? Well it showed you that you should be more careful with your mind and take the warnings others gave you (before i tripped i always heard you will never be the same after your first real trip, but i obviously couldnt understand untill i tripped). Or if no one warned, then it has shown you, you were naive to seek the drugs for whatever reason you did them, and you need to change your intentions.
Bitter cactus, dont be so scared because your perception of life has changed. We all feel that change too and that change is an open mind to all the evil and LOVE in this world. But evil (hppd) will always seem more real than enlightenment (love)
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It is not an enjoyable perception change to me. It is more or less repetitive annoying patterns that I want to fuck off.
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Don`t worry brother HPPD is just a term lizards use to make people think you are crazy when you are just waking up. Dont worry Be happy And enjoy the ride( you can be anxious as fuck but that doesn`t really help. does it?)
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Bitter Cactus said: It's been two years since my last trip I think (rough estimate.) First is maybe three years.
So because you have had HPPD symptoms for three years you are almost dead-set on believing it is a life-long thing and that you will have it for the rest of your life?
I'm starting to think that your HPPD has been prolonged by your meth abuse, and whatever other drugs you have/are taking. Not to mention your obsession on your HPPD thanks to your OCD. I'm willing to bet that if you hadn't been doing meth all that time that your HPPD would have worn off already. Everyone I've ever met that complains about HPPD is usually a drug addict and is taking either uppers or downers on a regular basis.
I'd stop taking any medication you are currently taking; including alcohol and marijuana, and see if your HPPD doesn't gradually fade away in the next few months.
THIS! except if u are longtime benzo user tapering it of. because this by itself can cause clearer vision=altered vision=opening your doors of perception wich IMHO is what most ppl freak out of and start diagnoising themselfs with HPPD....etc some shit that they read on internet. this is one of the main reasons why ppl are telling you to shut up and stop spreding propaganda that feeds only fear. And causes bad reactions while experiencing waking up/altered consisnes.
Did you get my point brother?
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I took psychedelics over 300 times. I experienced "flashbacks" maybe 5 times. After a few months, I experienced none at all.
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i've got pretty severe hppd, it's like crazy crazy all up in your face all the time.
, but im used to it.
hearing sound hallucinations, and splashes of rainbow collour morphs while i jump through different time planes.
almost every single time i sleep it's a VERY lucid dream, and i wake up feeling like i took lsd in my sleep.
smoking dmt calms me down.
sometimes i'll hear music ive never heard in my head playing me new songs, just for me, as if im hearing them playing in the room. i get synesthesia alot aswell. tasting colors and seeing smells.
marshmellows burnt some time look like the taste of lavender smells, but they sound like a bucket of crickets when i eat them.
oh hppd y u so cray
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nah its drugs, probasbly.
i mean i trip alot.
like i was considering eating shrooms in the next hour, type alot.
but all that wacky jazz goes on when im sober, so maybe i dunno. it's not worth wasting people's time with " i mite has cancer pls"
if i did, well that sucks, i'd just let it eat me. i'm cool with that
but i probably don't
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Yo what's your title mean in English?
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Re: HPPD poll [Re: Salomon]
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Did you have synesthesia before tripping?
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yes, just not as intensely, the mild twingle of seeing sounds and tasting colors, or like smelling a texture.
pretty simple stuff.
for the longest time i thought that shit was normal
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HPPD looks like the come up of a LSD trip to me.
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That's fucked dude, the come up of a LSD trip? Sounds like psychosis.
Recently I went on a completely irresponsible binge on LSD.
I got my hands on half a sheet and ended up doing it like every other day or every few days for 3 weeks. Never noticed any tolerance so I just kept going only having to double dose a few times ( it was WoW that I'm guessing was around 100 cuz they were awesome ) it was the greatest experience of my life and I wouldn't trade it for anything.
A few days after my last trip I noticed weird distortions in my vision, slight movement things like that. Went away in about a day or so
And that was like 23 tabs in 3 weeks or something.
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The HPPD I have looks like these colorful LSD like mechanical shapes mostly. My headspace is completely fine.
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Your saying you have that severe hppd from ONE acid trip? 3 fucking years ago! ? Ever think maybe it wasn't the LSD?!!? And maybe the meth abuse, like you know how you brag about being up for six days with no sleep? On multiple occasions? I bet that has no effect on the brain.
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Nah dog I had HPPD before meth use. HPPD is from psychedelics not stimulants.
If you get HPPD from stimulants it is not HPPD because by definition HPPD is only HPPD if you get persisting hallucinations after taking a hallucinogen.
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MinnesnowtaNice said: Your saying you have that severe hppd from ONE acid trip? 3 fucking years ago! ? Ever think maybe it wasn't the LSD?!!? And maybe the meth abuse, like you know how you brag about being up for six days with no sleep? On multiple occasions? I bet that has no effect on the brain.
Nah dog I had HPPD before meth use. HPPD is from psychedelics not stimulants.
If you get HPPD from stimulants it is not HPPD because by definition HPPD is only HPPD if you get persisting hallucinations after taking a hallucinogen.
yea thats just called prolonged psychosis, which you probably have from prolonged meth use
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Re: HPPD poll [Re: Salomon]
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Nah I have no psychosis. I am just a normal white boy.
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Meth psychosis is only when you are up for a long time and it goes away after you sleep IMO.
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i dont HAVE it, but i have had.
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Never had it. Have used psychedelics too many times to really count.
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Bitter Cactus said: That's funny so far more people have HPPD then they don't LMAO.
That's obviously because you went and registered like 15 accounts just to skew the results.
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Wow this poll is shocking. Your shot of getting HPPD is about 50/50 based on that poll. One percent they said, one percent. 
About like 18 percent of that half have it moderate to severe.
Those are fucked up odds so basically you flip a coin and hope that when you trip you are not affected with HPPD cause the person to either the left or right of you will get it.
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True, but its so minor.
Its not like we are all losing are minds from HPPD.
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Its not like we are all losing are minds from HPPD.
Ying and Yang my friend. Ying and Yang.
Some people are go to the HPPD online forum. It is not a good time for them they are suffering.
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Buy the ticket, take the ride and take the risk.
We all do it when we take these powerful substances.
I have misophonia. Is it from psych use? Not sure. Is there a forum for people suffering with misophonia? Yes.
HPPD is just a part of lifes stuggle. If u cant handle it, then pscyhedelics are obviously not ready for your brain.
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Ya but I just think more awareness of this condition is key IMO. It is swept under the rug and most people withold that info from new users cause they want them to try psychs.
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I put That I have slight HPPD cuz I did get it for a few months but its gone now. Theres not really an option in this poll for people in my position, which I think is the most common situation.
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tl;dr the thread.
that poll kinda sucks.
best option for me would be "yes I have experienced mild HPPD during times of heavy use, and no longer experience them."
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the thing that is fucked with the poll is that nobody really knows whats HPPD. if we count focus morphing , white snow, colors moving around when closing your eyes. then everybody have HPPD 
so what is HPPD??
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A condition that according to BC, 99% of psychedelic users develop.
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at my peak of psych usage, (between twice a week to twice a month) I used to see "shadow cats" (like shadow people, but cats.) all the time.
I probably saw an average of between 4 and 20 a day of those little fuckers.
it would just look like a quick flash in the peripherals of my vision, but was never anything major. I had zero other issues, and honestly it was kind of funny but never really effected me negatively.
I think this gets too much hype. they're just visuals for damn sakes.
isn't that why we eat the damn drugs in the first place?
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Right.
Where do u draw the line, whee is the distinction?
is it biophotons in my eyes or is it HPPD?
Is morphing due to HPPD or lack of sleep or poor nutrition or low blood pressure,etc.
We should all keep in mind we are self-diagnosing. Are u tricked my our own perceptions? How do we distingush it for ourselves?
I find subtle psychedelic afterglows come out when i smoke weed.
Other than that, HPPD is confusing and not so obvious.
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I voted MODERATE. I do not mind it though. Things go all wonky for a bit but then they calm down and I have learned something in the mean time.
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I've seen shadow people for years,
but the drugs turned them into cats
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I didn't even think to consider shadow people a psych thing, but now that I just saw someone else explain something I've been trying to, I have noticed shadow people since psych use and never remember them before. I always swear someones walking up in my periphs just to turn and they're gone.
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I think it's something that's always there, but psychs open you up to perceiving them. just like everything else that comes along with them. the ability to perceive some things just stays 
I feel like every since my first mushroom trip when I was 15/16, I've been a little more perceptive to energy. be it people or places. I just have a keener sense of vibes.
more hippy mumbo jumbo but whatevs man
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I actually relate exactly to what you're saying and have noticed the same shit, I still feel like the same person but more perceptive of things is definitely the right way to put it
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Shadow people is a meth thing.
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"Drugs are horrible for you, stop using medicine for your problems here are 1,000 alternatives. Btw you interested in meth related shit? I can talk about meth all day, I'm an expert on that shit".
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I didn't read through this whole thread so not sure if this was brought up yet. One of your options was "Yes, but I've had these symptoms before ever taking hallucinogens"
If people can have the symptoms before they have taken any psychedelics then what truly causes it? Is it just a chemical imbalance in the brain which can develop with out the help of psychedelics? Does there have to be an outside force to cause it, besides hallucinogens, maybe something like sitting to close to the T.V. or on a computer all day?
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