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SirShroomsAlott
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I think those people are doing what I did and attributing visual disturbances they've always had to psych use because before psych use they never had a reason to think anything of it which is why most people say slight, since that's what I called mine in the several threads I made about it when I was worried, luckily I stopped paying attention to it and it stopped instantly thanks to another mushroom trip.
It's clearly a real thing for some people, I just personally think that number is minimal.
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hppd is more than just having visuals. it can also effect your psyche pretty hard. it can make you so delusional and spacey that common everyday activities become a chore. most won't experience hppd so dramatically cause they don't use psychedelics as heavily as certain individuals.
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The number is not minimal.
And let me be clear.
Most people have some visual disturbances before psychedelics.
But look at the name of HPPD
Hallucinogen persisting perception disorder
- basically means perceptive disorder persisting the ingestion of a psychedelic
You may have had minor visual disturbances before tripping, but you are excluded from the diagnosis of HPPD. Just like someone who has never done meth cannot get amphetamine psychosis.
HPPD can lead to depersonalization, derealization, depression, anxiety ect.
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Somehow all of my friends have had either hppd or at least some weirdness following them around for months after lsd use... to me this is strange, as every time I've taken lsd I felt totally normal the next day. Makes me think I'm not taking enough
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Re: HPPD poll [Re: Ezuma]
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Ezuma said: Somehow all of my friends have had either hppd or at least some weirdness following them around for months after lsd use... to me this is strange, as every time I've taken lsd I felt totally normal the next day. Makes me think I'm not taking enough 
Exactly. When I asked the people in the WCA about HPPD a while back almost all of them have it to some degree.
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Well, here's another poll for you guys. I'm gonna link it in the OP.
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I am just gonna say it may not adversely effect your life that much, but I bet if you could wave a magic wand you would choose to have it go away.
I do think new trippers should know that based on the original poll, there is a 50 percent chance they will have persisting hallucinations for a long time, potentially for the rest of their lives.
They should decide before ingesting that drug whether or not they are okay with that and if so let's start tripping boys!
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It's been two years since my last trip I think (rough estimate.) First is maybe three years.
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Mr. Magic said: Only thing i have noticed is the static thing against plain backgrounds. I believe what sirshroomsalott said is all hppd is. I thought i had it at one point then realized i was just being stupid and blowing it way out of proportion.
Its hard for me to believe its a real problem...not from psychedelics atleast. Maybe from abuse of a different drug like meth or something.
Yup my situation exactly
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Re: HPPD poll [Re: Tybg]
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And BC seriously look into Paroxetine
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Re: HPPD poll [Re: Tybg]
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Mr. Magic said: Only thing i have noticed is the static thing against plain backgrounds. I believe what sirshroomsalott said is all hppd is. I thought i had it at one point then realized i was just being stupid and blowing it way out of proportion.
Its hard for me to believe its a real problem...not from psychedelics atleast. Maybe from abuse of a different drug like meth or something.
Yup my situation exactly
ive always had visual snow, long before i tripped. so maybe I was just weird to begin with
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Re: HPPD poll [Re: Ezuma]
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To my knowledge HPPD is a life long condition.
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Re: HPPD poll [Re: Ezuma]
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Bitter cactus keeps saying to look at what hppd is. And that just because we humans have a name for such a condition, it must be real and it must happen a lot.
Not exactly
What is hppd? Well its a label we have for a complaint we have. We gave it that label so we can recognize and relate to other people.
Dont be so afraid and annoyed with it. Just be happy there is a name for the feelings youre experiencing. Ever consider that some shamans or spiritual gurus have drugs figured out as well as the mind? And that they see this change in perception (what we call hppd) as a teaching or awakening. But those who fear this lesson will live with it untill they realize their lesson.
What lesson could hallucinogens or even the aftermath (hallucinogen perceptual persisting disorder) have? Well it showed you that you should be more careful with your mind and take the warnings others gave you (before i tripped i always heard you will never be the same after your first real trip, but i obviously couldnt understand untill i tripped). Or if no one warned, then it has shown you, you were naive to seek the drugs for whatever reason you did them, and you need to change your intentions.
Bitter cactus, dont be so scared because your perception of life has changed. We all feel that change too and that change is an open mind to all the evil and LOVE in this world. But evil (hppd) will always seem more real than enlightenment (love)
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It is not an enjoyable perception change to me. It is more or less repetitive annoying patterns that I want to fuck off.
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I promise you have the power to enjoy it.
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Don`t worry brother HPPD is just a term lizards use to make people think you are crazy when you are just waking up. Dont worry Be happy And enjoy the ride( you can be anxious as fuck but that doesn`t really help. does it?)
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Bitter Cactus said: It's been two years since my last trip I think (rough estimate.) First is maybe three years.
So because you have had HPPD symptoms for three years you are almost dead-set on believing it is a life-long thing and that you will have it for the rest of your life?
I'm starting to think that your HPPD has been prolonged by your meth abuse, and whatever other drugs you have/are taking. Not to mention your obsession on your HPPD thanks to your OCD. I'm willing to bet that if you hadn't been doing meth all that time that your HPPD would have worn off already. Everyone I've ever met that complains about HPPD is usually a drug addict and is taking either uppers or downers on a regular basis.
I'd stop taking any medication you are currently taking; including alcohol and marijuana, and see if your HPPD doesn't gradually fade away in the next few months.
THIS! except if u are longtime benzo user tapering it of. because this by itself can cause clearer vision=altered vision=opening your doors of perception wich IMHO is what most ppl freak out of and start diagnoising themselfs with HPPD....etc some shit that they read on internet. this is one of the main reasons why ppl are telling you to shut up and stop spreding propaganda that feeds only fear. And causes bad reactions while experiencing waking up/altered consisnes.
Did you get my point brother?
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I took psychedelics over 300 times. I experienced "flashbacks" maybe 5 times. After a few months, I experienced none at all.
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i've got pretty severe hppd, it's like crazy crazy all up in your face all the time.
, but im used to it.
hearing sound hallucinations, and splashes of rainbow collour morphs while i jump through different time planes.
almost every single time i sleep it's a VERY lucid dream, and i wake up feeling like i took lsd in my sleep.
smoking dmt calms me down.
sometimes i'll hear music ive never heard in my head playing me new songs, just for me, as if im hearing them playing in the room. i get synesthesia alot aswell. tasting colors and seeing smells.
marshmellows burnt some time look like the taste of lavender smells, but they sound like a bucket of crickets when i eat them.
oh hppd y u so cray
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nah its drugs, probasbly.
i mean i trip alot.
like i was considering eating shrooms in the next hour, type alot.
but all that wacky jazz goes on when im sober, so maybe i dunno. it's not worth wasting people's time with " i mite has cancer pls"
if i did, well that sucks, i'd just let it eat me. i'm cool with that
but i probably don't
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