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Mr.PhilCybin
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Re: The war on boys. [Re: olson]
#22251047 - 09/17/15 12:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I won't argue that there is still some bias in the workplace, but there's also just a lot more males in the science and math fields. increasing the probability of a male to win.
I don't see any reason to decide "we need to give out x amount awards to males and x amount awards to females." As long as big achievements are recognized who gives a shit what they have in their pants?
I dunno man, I just see a lot of women taking advantage of men just like they complain about from the opposite sex.
we're all assholes really.
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r.lutece
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Re: The war on boys. [Re: olson] 3
#22251056 - 09/17/15 12:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Keep in mind that the men currently winning the awards are not the same boys being currently raised in this kind of educational system.
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Shroomism
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It's been demonstrated many times that the lack of women in STEM fields is a result of women choosing not to go into STEM fields. Not sexist bias.
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Re: The war on boys. [Re: Shroomism]
#22251091 - 09/17/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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we need to scientifically prove that women have their place and men theirs and segregate them both from each other. it is the only solution.
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Ezuma
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Re: The war on boys. [Re: Shroomism]
#22251097 - 09/17/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's very true, not so much in highschool but in elementary for sure, the teachers were almost all women, and many of them clearly disliked the male students or just didn't know how to deal with them. Is it surprising at all, that if you start out as a 'trouble maker' or a problem child or irresponsible, that you will grow up resenting the school and authority figures in general? It's quite unfortunate
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r.lutece
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Re: The war on boys. [Re: Shroomism]
#22251098 - 09/17/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The same has in fact been discovered about the pay gap between men and women. I'm not going to pretend that there aren't cases where women are being paid less for men doing the same job, but much of the discrepancy has been linked to the fields that the average male and the average female work in. Jobs that men typically choose are higher earning careers than jobs typically chosen by women. STEM fields are a good example of this.
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Re: The war on boys. [Re: r.lutece]
#22251135 - 09/17/15 01:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yep, I'm surprised more people don't hear that these days. And I'm not one of the redpiller mens rights activist types at all. There's plenty of sexist people out there causing trouble for women, I don't see why that means future generations of men deserve to be treated unfairly though.
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Beanhead
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Re: The war on boys. [Re: Shiithead]
#22251157 - 09/17/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shiithead said: Powerful video. Share your thoughts and discuss chaotically.
America is stupid as fuck moronic
Seriously blow up the world already
Edited by Beanhead (09/17/15 01:04 PM)
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SARAtonin
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Quote:
Mr.PhilCybin said:
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SARAtonin said: Dude, we have be oppressed for years, since the dawn of agriculture and civilization and the switch away from hunting and gathering, practically to the point if slavery for thousands of year.
And now when for the first time in human civilization we are starting to gain some rights back and even the playing field you guys start shouting that there is a war on men?
No. Fuck no.
things have been mostly equal for a long time. yet women hold onto shit from years ago. it's a lot like the racism deal now that I think about it.
yes it still exists, but a lot of groups bring it upon themselves by attaching themselves to the idea of it.
Oh joy, equality has reached?
Does that mean I can stop being treated like a sex symbol and have my opinions be taken seriously in public.
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Mr.PhilCybin
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Re: The war on boys. [Re: SARAtonin]
#22251172 - 09/17/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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elitism makes you sound way better.
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SARAtonin
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Ya ya ya, I am lorde.
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Re: The war on boys. [Re: SARAtonin] 2
#22251226 - 09/17/15 01:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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SARAtonin said:
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Mr.PhilCybin said:
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SARAtonin said: Dude, we have be oppressed for years, since the dawn of agriculture and civilization and the switch away from hunting and gathering, practically to the point if slavery for thousands of year.
And now when for the first time in human civilization we are starting to gain some rights back and even the playing field you guys start shouting that there is a war on men?
No. Fuck no.
things have been mostly equal for a long time. yet women hold onto shit from years ago. it's a lot like the racism deal now that I think about it.
yes it still exists, but a lot of groups bring it upon themselves by attaching themselves to the idea of it.
Oh joy, equality has reached?
Does that mean I can stop being treated like a sex symbol and have my opinions be taken seriously in public.
You'll yearn for the days of "being treated like a sex symbol" when you grow older.
"have my opinions be taken seriously in public"
My guess is your gender has nothing to do with your opinions not being taken seriously by others.
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SARAtonin
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Re: The war on boys. [Re: qman]
#22251260 - 09/17/15 01:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm not going to grow old, Lilith and I have a suicide pact at the age of 42.
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r.lutece
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Re: The war on boys. [Re: qman] 2
#22251272 - 09/17/15 01:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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qman said:My guess is your gender has nothing to do with your opinions not being taken seriously by others.
Wait.
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zappaisgod
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Re: The war on boys. [Re: SARAtonin] 2
#22251285 - 09/17/15 01:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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SARAtonin said:
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Mr.PhilCybin said:
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SARAtonin said: Dude, we have be oppressed for years, since the dawn of agriculture and civilization and the switch away from hunting and gathering, practically to the point if slavery for thousands of year.
And now when for the first time in human civilization we are starting to gain some rights back and even the playing field you guys start shouting that there is a war on men?
No. Fuck no.
things have been mostly equal for a long time. yet women hold onto shit from years ago. it's a lot like the racism deal now that I think about it.
yes it still exists, but a lot of groups bring it upon themselves by attaching themselves to the idea of it.
Oh joy, equality has reached?
Does that mean I can stop being treated like a sex symbol and have my opinions be taken seriously in public.
Do you mean you want to lose your sex symbol privilege? If you want your opinions taken seriously have better ones.
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SARAtonin
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Perhaps this will add some insight, But I doubt it.
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Never had a male teacher or any good teacher for that matter lol. Thus why I said fuck school after HS and found a trade job. And learned what I needed to on the job instead of some 20 years of debt from going to college.
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For GODS sage let the men be men and women be women. BTW it is completly natural to both genders to have their own attributes. feminine and masculine, ying&yang, bim&bam And it is completly natural to both sexes to teach the kids...You usually create the images of pervertion on your own mind....excample a homosexual kindergarden teacher....what is wrong with you? homosexual does not equal pedofil in my mind.
P.s. how often you find 100% fem individual weed plants? is it like 50% are 100%female and 50% 100%male? NOT!
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r.lutece
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My education wasn't too bad. Pretty standard, I think, but I grew up in a rural area with a very small school, so they were pretty slow to jump on the 'feelings' train for education. My first male teacher was in kindergarten, actually; our PE teacher, Mr. Wiley. Now HE was a character... Awesome instructor. Next in 5th grade, our English teacher was a guy. When I transferred to a new city for high school, at least half of our teachers were men. I actually think I took more classes in high school taught by men than women when I look back on it.
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Re: The war on boys. [Re: Shiithead]
#22251462 - 09/17/15 02:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think this lady is a bit kooky (just the look in her eye and voice reminds me of a notorious YT schizo named Gabrielle Chana) and kinda dry, but she has a nice way of presenting "moderate" feminism to right-wingers, so I will give her credit there. I've watched a few of her "Factual Feminist" series and especially on the whole "Gamergate" thing I think she had a pretty reasonable take, which is sorely lacking on the internet:
I think alot of things she says exhibit a clear bias. Like when she says "these boys are the ones who are going to grow up and marry our daughters" it makes me hope that all her sons and daughters turn out gay. AEI is a center-right (ie Neo-con) thinktank, so I would advise anyone who takes in her media to take it with a grain of salt, as it's openly biased towards that sort of thinking.
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