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OfflineRebelutionsssss
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What happens when the post office siezes a package
    #22249311 - 09/17/15 02:07 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I've heard of people just getting a letter saying they took it but other times they'll try to prosecute you?


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Re: What happens when the post office siezes a package [Re: Rebelutionsssss] * 1
    #22249315 - 09/17/15 02:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If you heard both of those things why are you asking again?


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Re: What happens when the post office siezes a package [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22249316 - 09/17/15 02:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I dunno with any certainty. Common sense tells me the only way you can be prosecuted for a package with illegal contents is you receive the contents. Anyone can send you random packages, that doesn't make you guilty. I know most times I've seen it talked about there's just a note saying it's been confiscated. Have even heard reports of people doing it again and getting another confiscation note.

If I got burned trying to order illegal shit, I wouldn't be tempting fate and trying again though. Too paranoid. I would just assume any that got to me after the first time was a set up.


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Re: What happens when the post office siezes a package [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22249340 - 09/17/15 02:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I ordered steroids off the net, the first lot came through but the second lot, I got woken by 6 customs officers and 4 police. Flushed most of it then realized shit theres some in the kitchen cupboard and on the bench in my back room which they didn't even seem to notice. So guess it depends on what you order, they told me the only reason I got raided was because it was in liquid injectable form otherwise they would have just seized it. But in the end I got my computer back which they seized and no charges. Never be doing that again


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Re: What happens when the post office siezes a package [Re: Laughingcowwa]
    #22249367 - 09/17/15 02:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Damn. That sounds fucking horrible


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Re: What happens when the post office siezes a package [Re: Rebelutionsssss] * 1
    #22249390 - 09/17/15 02:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

When checking the tracking for a package, it just said '(blank) police department', but nothing else happened. I think you can only get busted if you receive and open said package. Now, when I get something illicit in the mail, I write 'return to sender', and wait a minimum of three days before opening.


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Re: What happens when the post office siezes a package [Re: Fletcher]
    #22249410 - 09/17/15 03:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I read that too which is really smart to do :seriousthumbsup:


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Re: What happens when the post office siezes a package [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22249428 - 09/17/15 03:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I knew this guy who made a big public scene of taking the package out to the garbage in case anyone was watching and then he snuck out at 3 am to pick it back out of garbage. Other people who leave it in pile of junk mail for a week before opening it.
I just order from stuff from people in my own country. The post office doesn't worry me, but customs does. If it makes you feel better i have been paying attention to the drugs in the mail scene long before TOR and people who actually get in trouble are really rare. Whatever you do deny everything. And don't order huge amounts, they might ignore small time stuff but if you look like a drug dealer getting his supply in the mail they will go all out to bust you.
I use a PO box I paid a homeless guy 20 bucks to rent for me. No way they are going to stake out the box for weeks for any small ass order I make. It would have to be huge for them to do that. You could get popped getting stuff in the mail but you probably wont.


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Re: What happens when the post office siezes a package [Re: my3rdeye]
    #22249438 - 09/17/15 03:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:raisemyglass: makes me wonder what the people that get busted did wrong. I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to track you down but if you cover your tracks well they'll have a hell of a time trying to prove that you knew what was in there and that you ordered it


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Re: What happens when the post office siezes a package [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22249450 - 09/17/15 03:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Tracked the package (which means they were expecting it)
Signed for the package (taking possession of the package and can be argued they were expecting it)
Opened the package immediately

Sure there's a few others, but those seem to be the main ones that get people fucked over.


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Re: What happens when the post office siezes a package [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22249456 - 09/17/15 03:55 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah people need to stop checking that tracking number thats a red flag


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Re: What happens when the post office siezes a package [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22249458 - 09/17/15 03:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I've always read to never track your package and if they ask you to sign for one say that you never ordered anything and refuse to sign. I always thought it was dumb to check tracking numbers because if it doesn't make it to you there's a reason and you don't want to be checking on it then.


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Re: What happens when the post office siezes a package [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22249474 - 09/17/15 04:05 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Pretty much tracking the package in the eyes of the law is as good as "I'm guilty". I suppose with a good lawyer and the right circumstances you could claim you thought you were ordering something else, but that'd be a slim chance. The whole idea of not being able to be prosecuted for ordering illegal drugs is plausible deniability. "I didn't know someone sent me this package". When you start tracking it, you just completely nullify that argument.


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I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


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Re: What happens when the post office siezes a package [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22249476 - 09/17/15 04:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

There's a good amount of people getting busted that way too. Do you think they would watch you for months on end and just bust you for everything after a long time?


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Re: What happens when the post office siezes a package [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22249482 - 09/17/15 04:12 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Doubtful for personal use situations. If you're ordering massive amounts, like high level distribution where you sell to other distributes who then sell to dealers.. I'd say it's a good possibility. They might want to build a strong case and more than just on you. It's what the news would call a "drug ring". They want to nail them all.

For small amounts, if they're gonna do anything, it's probably going to be minutes after you receive the package. Maybe a couple of hours. They're not going to wait around forever and have you sell off or hand off the drugs to other people and then have nothing on you. They want to get you while it's still in your possession and the only way to guarantee that is to move fast.


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Re: What happens when the post office siezes a package [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22249510 - 09/17/15 04:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That's true. I wonder how the original Silk Road owner got caught up


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Re: What happens when the post office siezes a package [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22249551 - 09/17/15 04:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Pretty much tracking the package in the eyes of the law is as good as "I'm guilty". I suppose with a good lawyer and the right circumstances you could claim you thought you were ordering something else, but that'd be a slim chance. The whole idea of not being able to be prosecuted for ordering illegal drugs is plausible deniability. "I didn't know someone sent me this package". When you start tracking it, you just completely nullify that argument.




There was a case recently where the PO admitted they keep records of the IP addresses that use their tracking system. And the worst thing you could possibly do is check the tracking number from TOR. If their system keeps IP numbers, and you use TOR, you just got your package red flagged.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21715427#21715427


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Re: What happens when the post office siezes a package [Re: my3rdeye]
    #22249578 - 09/17/15 05:10 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That guy sounds like a complete retard. No wonder her got caught


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Re: What happens when the post office siezes a package [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22249620 - 09/17/15 05:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Deny, do not grab the package move on to the next, they will get you when you grab the package, go ahead and tell on yourself if you want.


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Re: What happens when the post office siezes a package [Re: natzyshroomer]
    #22251082 - 09/17/15 12:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If the post office is seizing, hold it's head and make sure it doesn't bite it's tongue to prevent injury. Bringing it to the hospital to check for possible epilepsy


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Re: What happens when the post office siezes a package [Re: Sheekle]
    #22252409 - 09/17/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

They sent me a letter. The vendor refunded my money, and I had many succesful orders after that.


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Re: What happens when the post office siezes a package [Re: natzyshroomer]
    #22307002 - 09/29/15 08:03 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: What happens when the post office siezes a package [Re: Shroomslip]
    #22307040 - 09/29/15 08:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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Pretty much tracking the package in the eyes of the law is as good as "I'm guilty". I suppose with a good lawyer and the right circumstances you could claim you thought you were ordering something else, but that'd be a slim chance. The whole idea of not being able to be prosecuted for ordering illegal drugs is plausible deniability. "I didn't know someone sent me this package". When you start tracking it, you just completely nullify that argument.





How is tracking a package a shady thing to do in the eyes of the law? Whenever I send a flat rate box, it automatically comes with tracking...


And its very uncommon to get caught if you are sending something. Its the receiver that needs to be careful.


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Re: What happens when the post office siezes a package [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22307083 - 09/29/15 08:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

your going to jail son


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Re: What happens when the post office siezes a package [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22307091 - 09/29/15 08:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It isn't shady until drugs are found in it and you claim you didn't know it was coming or didn't order it.

Then when they see you had and we're checking the tracking it becomes harder to claim you didn't know about it.

Even if it's not definitive, it's just more evidence against you in court

That's why you don't even deny, just don't even say anything


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Re: What happens when the post office siezes a package [Re: SirShroomsAlott]
    #22307101 - 09/29/15 08:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

your fucked start keistering drugs now before its to late


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Re: What happens when the post office siezes a package [Re: shroominated] * 1
    #22312654 - 09/30/15 06:58 AM (8 years, 3 months ago)

My FRIEND Knows a very close friend of his from Germany.

He can get as much acid tabs as he Needs, sent to England :thumbup:

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