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HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug
    #22248893 - 09/16/15 11:44 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

For all suffers, here is a forum with information and support to help you treat and deal with your disorder. http://hppdonline.com/


HPPD is a real illness and is caused from using psychedelics. You might get HPPD from your first trip, your second trip, your last trip or you may never get it at all.


Here are the conditions that will tell you if you have HPPD:

- Subjects experience drug-like sensory disturbances while not under the influence of any drugs.
- The disturbances interfere with work, school, social settings, or other areas.
- There are no other physical or mental conditions that account for the disturbances (lesions, visual epilepsy, schizophrenia, dementia, etc.)

What causes HPPD?

HPPD is defined to be caused by taking 'hallucinogenic' drugs, but its root cause is poorly understood. Dr. Henry Abraham ( a leading researcher in this area) believes that HPPD may be partially genetic though he says that he knows of no published evidence [personal communication - tacovan]. It seems to be most commonly related to LSD use, perhaps because LSD is the most common hallucinogen, but there are also reports of HPPD being caused by other psychedelics such as mushrooms, MDMA, MDA, 2CT7, 5-MEO-DiPT, etc. There are a few people who have HPPD-like symptoms who have never taken any drugs, but the definition of Hallucinogen Persisting Perceptual Disorder does not include these individuals.




Basically, I am pissed off and frustrated with how the community has dealt with this issue. No only is it swept under the rug and downplayed, it is outright denied. People in the psychedelic community know about this condition and know it exists but new users are not being warned. If you are a responsible drug user and are educating a new tripper about the risks of taking psychedelics, all I ask is that you warn them about HPPD.

I want this condition to be acknowledged and for us suffers to receive some support.

Discuss HPPD. This condition is a lot more common then you think by the way.


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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Bitter Cactus] * 6
    #22248902 - 09/16/15 11:47 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

no1 cares


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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Sheekle] * 3
    #22248905 - 09/16/15 11:48 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

sheekle why are you so butthurt all the time?

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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Sheekle] * 1
    #22248912 - 09/16/15 11:49 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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Sheekle said:
no1 cares




Hey buddy :shutthefuckup:

You are always grinding my chain bro do you have a problem with me? Seriously. I am just starting this thread to inform new users the risks about tripping. I think people should trip if they want but be educated of the potential side effects of that drug.


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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Sheekle] * 4
    #22248924 - 09/16/15 11:54 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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no1 cares




:lol:

Seriously, HPPD isnt that bad, unless u are taking psychs ALl the time.

And it goes away when u reduce your usage.


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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22248932 - 09/16/15 11:57 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

dirty little secret? come on man this isn't 17 magazine


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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Bitter Cactus] * 2
    #22248933 - 09/16/15 11:57 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

I think your being a gooch about it TBH.

Sure people should be warned that they'll have a slight chance probably under 1% that they will get some remnants of tripping while they are sober.
Free fucking trips.
I don't even have to take psychs anymore because being sober is a fucking blast, but not too much different than being sober, just enhanced.

Go cry in a corner there's nothing you can do about it besides learn how to accept it and love it.

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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22248936 - 09/16/15 11:57 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

:facepalm: I thought the whole point was the kappa omega enzyme

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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 5
    #22248940 - 09/16/15 11:58 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

BC's mom gave me HPPD.

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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22248943 - 09/16/15 11:59 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

LogicaL Chaos said:
Quote:

Sheekle said:
no1 cares




:lol:

Seriously, HPPD isnt that bad, unless u are taking psychs ALl the time.

And it goes away when u reduce your usage.




downplay, downplay. downplay.

I just want us to have an honest discussion about it. And no, I haven't tripped in a couple years and haven't smoked weed in a year and my HPPD is the same.


It is not the worst, but this is a medical disorder caused from psychedelics. I just want people to stop pretending it doesn't exist anymore. There are several forums that are actually very active dedicated to people suffering from this condition. For some it causes severe depression and more.

For people suffering from it, it is not a "free trip". We just want it to go away. :sad: The visuals are not even interesting I am looking at my curtain and see these neons rectangles that remind me of a light LSD trip. It is fucking gay especially when I am doing home work and I got this shit from my first mushroom trip.


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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Konyap]
    #22248945 - 09/17/15 12:00 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

BC I heard that you enjoy spreading false information, and or crying over/exaggerating real information that does not matter.

Is this true?:astonishedmustache:

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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #22248949 - 09/17/15 12:01 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

:mad2::sad::derail::tard:

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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #22248952 - 09/17/15 12:02 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

MajickMuffin said:
BC I heard that you enjoy spreading false information, and or crying over/exaggerating real information that does not matter.

Is this true?:astonishedmustache:




So many people here are gonna deny this exists, but I am gonna stand strong.


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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22248969 - 09/17/15 12:06 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

it is def real but some find it horrible others find it chill. I was researching it all of today

BC; I did quite a bit of research. While MDMA,pcp, almost any hallucinatory state can trigger it, it is mostly from LSD. Specifically LSD. Shrooms etc. are known to trigger it, but LSD has been the most problematic for it

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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22248975 - 09/17/15 12:07 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Your new name should be Bitter Almond cause you are sounding an awful lot like Almond Flour....

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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22248986 - 09/17/15 12:11 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

LOOK AT THE NAME OF THE FUCKING DISORDER

Hallucinogen persisting perception disorder

The name basically says "perceptive disorder persisting after the use of a hallucinogen"


You get this shit after taking a hallucinogen. I don't care if you jog twenty hours a day and eat a hundred apples and meditate and are the healthiest man on the world, you can get it just like anyone else.

It does not discriminate at all.


Every time you trip, you are one trip closer to having this disorder. You are due to get it eventually.


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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22248989 - 09/17/15 12:12 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Can you prove to us that it does not discriminate at all? Should we call you All Knowing God?

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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #22248992 - 09/17/15 12:13 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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Can you prove to us that it does not discriminate at all? Should we call you All Knowing God?




Some people with really fucking bad habits/ mental illness trip a million times and don't get it. Other people that are really healthy get it after the first trip.

I think it is completely random. You spin the wheel and hope this trip you will not wake up with tracers and halos for the rest of your life.


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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: topdog82] * 1
    #22248994 - 09/17/15 12:15 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

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it is def real but some find it horrible others find it chill. I was researching it all of today

BC; I did quite a bit of research. While MDMA,pcp, almost any hallucinatory state can trigger it, it is mostly from LSD. Specifically LSD. Shrooms etc. are known to trigger it, but LSD has been the most problematic for it




So why were there not more HPPD cases during times when the LSD flowed? Like there are more people with HPPD today, way more, than there were in the 1967-missle silo bust period of LSD being everywhere.
People talking about it online is the reason so many people think they have it. Threads like this are responsible for the sudden increase in HPPD. I don't see how it's possible for LSD use to keep going down and HPPD keeps going up.

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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22248997 - 09/17/15 12:16 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

I'm pretty sure that's not quite how it works at all.
First of all its not random. It depends on the person, the cercumstances, and the drugs taken.
Second, for most people it goes away after long periods of being sober.

Your being a fucking cock sucker because your one in a million HPPD sufferers whose got it bad, crying about it, and now your trying to say everyone can get it.

Fucking fear porn at its finest

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