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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22249160 - 09/17/15 01:11 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I've tripped like a thousand times and never had it. Kind of doubting its existence actually

Like fibromyalgia...


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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22249163 - 09/17/15 01:12 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

BC everyone in the US is taught about it in school.

Maybe you should work on your own fucking country instead of the shroomery. Don't blame others not telling you, blame yourself for not studying potential risks and being afucking tard about it


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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Oeric McKenna]
    #22249167 - 09/17/15 01:12 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I've tripped like a thousand times and never had it. Kind of doubting its existence actually

Like fibromyalgia...




That's the weird fucking thing about HPPD. You probably will never get it, but the guy to your right will get it after his first trip.



Teachers taught you about HPPD in school?


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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22249170 - 09/17/15 01:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

When i first starting experiencing HPPD i came here and most of the responses I got were "bruh, you get to see like you're tripping all the time, quit complainin!"
or just that I was making it up or whatevs...

anyway the HPPD wasn't really the bad part, it was the depersonalization and derealization that came with it that really sucked...but 6 years later the HPPD isn't as noticeable anymore and thankfully the DP/DR is pretty much non-existent.


so yea, I agree that this should be talked about more and people that are experiencing it shouldn't be brushed off as just "not being able to handle psychedelics"


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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Bitter Cactus] * 1
    #22249173 - 09/17/15 01:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You're just going to freak yourself the fuck out because you have that in the back of your mind. To new trippers all that's going to do is enduce bad trips and or turn them off to psychedelics all together.

It's a useless thing to bring up.


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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Oldgregg]
    #22249181 - 09/17/15 01:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Rebelutionsssss said:
You're just going to freak yourself the fuck out because you have that in the back of your mind. To new trippers all that's going to do is enduce bad trips and or turn them off to psychedelics all together.

It's a useless thing to bring up.




Information is never useless.

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When i first starting experiencing HPPD i came here and most of the responses I got were "bruh, you get to see like you're tripping all the time, quit complainin!"
or just that I was making it up or whatevs...

anyway the HPPD wasn't really the bad part, it was the depersonalization and derealization that came with it that really sucked...but 6 years later the HPPD isn't as noticeable anymore and thankfully the DP/DR is pretty much non-existent.


so yea, I agree that this should be talked about more and people that are experiencing it shouldn't be brushed off as just "not being able to handle psychedelics"




I have heard multiple accounts of psychedelics causing depersonalization/ derealization. Is this true because I do remember reading about it an awful lot and never did the research myself.


But ya, tripping is fun when you want to trip. But having visuals all the time is not a good time.


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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22249185 - 09/17/15 01:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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You're just going to freak yourself the fuck out because you have that in the back of your mind. To new trippers all that's going to do is enduce bad trips and or turn them off to psychedelics all together.

It's a useless thing to bring up.




They deserve to know. With holding that info is such an evil thing to do.


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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22249196 - 09/17/15 01:20 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

True but worrying yourself about it is just going make things worse. Learn about it and realize that it is a possibility that you have to take into account. Ime it's extremely rare when you use enthogens with care so I never even considered it as a possibility.

I'm glad I didn't know about it when I first started using psychedelics because it probably would have scared me away like I'm sure it would do with a lot of other people :thumbdown:


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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22249197 - 09/17/15 01:20 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

from my experience the DP/DR came from what I assume was taking various shady "X" pills a bit too often


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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22249200 - 09/17/15 01:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

Rebelutionsssss said:
You're just going to freak yourself the fuck out because you have that in the back of your mind. To new trippers all that's going to do is enduce bad trips and or turn them off to psychedelics all together.

It's a useless thing to bring up.




They deserve to know. With holding that info is such an evil thing to do.



:doublefacepalm: well then start throwing fucking flyers around town and shit, and with your face right in the center of it stating "I am God, please worship me".
"Oh and by the way HPPD you may get if you take psychedelics"

Start fucking handing that shit out if keeping info is so evil. You'll be doing the Lords work


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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22249205 - 09/17/15 01:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Rebelutionsssss said:
True but worrying yourself about it is just going make things worse. Learn about it and realize that it is a possibility that you have to take into account. Ime it's extremely rare when you use enthogens with care so I never even considered it as a possibility.

I'm glad I didn't know about it when I first started using psychedelics because it probably would have scared me away like I'm sure it would do with a lot of other people :thumbdown:




I think when I go for a back surgery, it is the obligation of the doctor to tell me the potential side effects and risks of the surgery.

Information allows us to make informed decisions. I believe we all have the right to make an informed decision despite whatever bias you guys have.


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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22249210 - 09/17/15 01:27 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Not when dealing with psychedelics. Its like warning a person not to have a bad trip right before they dose


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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #22249212 - 09/17/15 01:28 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

"Hey you guys wanna try LSD? Oh by the way you might never come down and be stuck with hallucinations for the rest of your life" na bro.

in 99% of users HPPD never even happens so why scare everyone
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Not when dealing with psychedelics. Its like warning a person not to have a bad trip right before they dose



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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #22249221 - 09/17/15 01:30 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I would guess like 20-25% of psychedelic users get HPPD at some point. It is actually really fucking common.

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Not when dealing with psychedelics. Its like warning a person not to have a bad trip right before they dose




They deserve to know. I wish I would have been told. :shrug:


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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22249228 - 09/17/15 01:32 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Its not that common BC. Your shitting into your own mouth.

You are probably 1/100 on the fact that you didn't know. Everyone knows. Its your own fucking fault that you didn't know.

Before I did mushrooms I researched heavily on all the Trip levels, effects, side effects.

Its the responsible thing to do...know what your getting into.


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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: MajickMuffin]
    #22249232 - 09/17/15 01:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

In the other HPPD thread there were at least ten people that admitted to having it. It wasn't even a long thread.


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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22249244 - 09/17/15 01:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yea admitted to having hppd in an hppd thread, that's why they clicked on it :lol: I've met a shit ton of people that take psychedelics throughout my years of going to festivals and haven't met a single person who has it


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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22249246 - 09/17/15 01:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Ok and I'm sure people with HPPD were more drawn to the thread about HPPD.....how many users are on the shroomwry?


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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Rebelutionsssss]
    #22249248 - 09/17/15 01:41 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Yea admitted to having hppd in an hppd thread, that's why they clicked on it :lol: I've met a shit ton of people that take psychedelics throughout my years of going to festivals and haven't met a single person who has it




I think at least 1/5 trippers have it to some degree.


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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22249254 - 09/17/15 01:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You guys are gonna do everything in your power to deny and downplay it and rationalize it as something insignificant. That is human nature.


But I promise you it is much much more common then you think and a big portion of trippers have it to some degree.


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