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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22334985 - 10/04/15 10:05 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Now that bitter cuntas is banned for life...can i still get in trouble for calling him a fucking retard that needs to go fuck away to the mycotopia?
just wondering..
you know..for science..
and cuz umm...weed is bad!
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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#22334987 - 10/04/15 10:06 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: Now that bitter cuntas is banned for life...can i still get in trouble for calling him a fucking retard that needs to go fuck away to the mycotopia?
just wondering..
you know..for science..
and cuz umm...weed is bad!
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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Pastywhyte]
#22334992 - 10/04/15 10:09 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Its really. Family member is still thinking she can talk to God and see the future. Everything is a sign and she did not get on a plane this weekend for a job related trip... May looser her job over this. Has any one have any real advice.
See a shrink. What you just described is schizophrenia.
Yup. Exactly what was happening to me all day everyday and i was later diagnosed with schizophrenia. Every little thing was a "sign". Everything on TV was talking to me. Language itself turned into something that always related to me.
and much more..
lol funny thing right...once i swore i was looking at McKenna's timewave mapped out on my ceiling. It was just a reflection from a cars light parked outside. But to this day i swear i was looking at a projection of history
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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: BurkesGarden]
#22335074 - 10/04/15 10:32 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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BurkesGarden said: HPPD:
Its really. Family member is still thinking she can talk to God and see the future. Everything is a sign and she did not get on a plane this weekend for a job related trip... May looser her job over this. Has any one have any real advice.
Have her talk to a psychologist
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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Sheekle]
#22335141 - 10/04/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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should be noted that those are signs of psychosis and not HPPD
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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: 404]
#22335245 - 10/04/15 11:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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404 said: should be noted that those are signs of psychosis and not HPPD
I was just about to say that. Probably triggered some dormant schizophrenia in her
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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Bitter Cactus] 1
#22335329 - 10/05/15 12:05 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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336 said: Question: How do we know that schizophrenics are actually crazy and that everything they think/see/hear isn't actually real?
I mean the stories of mystics, magicians and oracles had to come from somewhere.
Though this is not a direct answer, watched a lecture a while ago that touches on this.
If you don't have time for the full lecture (which was rather interesting) a short form related specifically to schizophrenia is summarized here:
Basic premise is that a condition related to schizophrenia potentially provides an adaptive advantage to the species, as demonstrated by figures like mystics or shamans.
Seem to recall him also touching on things like OCD in the full lecture, kind of want to sit down and watch through it again now. Been several years.
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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22335713 - 10/05/15 05:51 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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336 said: Question: How do we know that schizophrenics are actually crazy and that everything they think/see/hear isn't actually real?
I mean the stories of mystics, magicians and oracles had to come from somewhere.
Do you know any schizophrenics? I didn't think so.
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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Sun King]
#22335725 - 10/05/15 06:04 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Shiithead]
#22335955 - 10/05/15 08:05 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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BurkesGarden said: HPPD:
Its really. Family member is still thinking she can talk to God and see the future. Everything is a sign and she did not get on a plane this weekend for a job related trip... May looser her job over this. Has any one have any real advice.
See a shrink. What you just described is schizophrenia.
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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Sun King]
#22335960 - 10/05/15 08:06 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sun King said:
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336 said: Question: How do we know that schizophrenics are actually crazy and that everything they think/see/hear isn't actually real?
I mean the stories of mystics, magicians and oracles had to come from somewhere.
Do you know any schizophrenics? I didn't think so.
I was diagnosed with schizophrenia about 2 years ago. Psychiatrist said I don't have any symptoms of it anymore though. I didn't really have any illusions of grandeur.
But on the topic, a bunch of ancient religions and cultures believe that crazy people are the connection between the spirit world and the living plane.
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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Achillita]
#22336825 - 10/05/15 12:52 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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BurkesGarden said:
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BurkesGarden said: HPPD:
Its really. Family member is still thinking she can talk to God and see the future. Everything is a sign and she did not get on a plane this weekend for a job related trip... May looser her job over this. Has any one have any real advice.
See a shrink. What you just described is schizophrenia.
thanks for the input. Def something to consider. Appointment has been set hope all goes well. hate that this has happened she has done a lot of MDMA in the past. this episode was induced by Weed. Of all things has anyone ever experienced a mental break with weed?
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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: BurkesGarden]
#22336833 - 10/05/15 12:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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When my girlfriend first started smoking, she would go absolutely insane on weed. Like she couldn't recognize who I was, and would just go delirious. It wasn't really a break, as it went away when she wasn't high anymore.
But I could see it happening.
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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: BurkesGarden]
#22336886 - 10/05/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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BurkesGarden said:
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BurkesGarden said:
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BurkesGarden said: HPPD:
Its really. Family member is still thinking she can talk to God and see the future. Everything is a sign and she did not get on a plane this weekend for a job related trip... May looser her job over this. Has any one have any real advice.
See a shrink. What you just described is schizophrenia.
thanks for the input. Def something to consider. Appointment has been set hope all goes well. hate that this has happened she has done a lot of MDMA in the past. this episode was induced by Weed. Of all things has anyone ever experienced a mental break with weed?
There is a fair bit of not entirely conclusive information available about cannabis and schizophrenia. Previously the view was that cannabis causes schizophrenia, but it has more recently come to be viewed as simply exacerbating schizophrenic symptoms in those who suffer from the condition.
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The exact effect this change has had on the mental health of cannabis users is hard to say – the link between cannabis and schizophrenia remains complex and controversial. Researchers have struggled to prove whether cannabis causes psychosis, or whether people predisposed to psychosis are just more likely to smoke cannabis. The best evidence currently suggests that in people who are genetically at risk of schizophrenia, regular cannabis use doubles their risk of experiencing psychotic symptoms. But no long-term studies of people with schizophrenia have chemically analysed the type of cannabis the subjects were smoking.
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More recent research also suggests, however, that the links to schizophrenia are due to high THC contents, and that CBD may hold the key to not only counteracting that issue, but may also be a source of medications to treat psychosis.
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“The most well-known ingredient in cannabis that gets people high is THC [or tetrahydrocannabinol],” says Potter, who often travels to give talks in London carrying a suspicious-smelling suitcase of the plants. “But THC is just one of dozens of potentially useful cannabinoids in the plant.”
Cannabinoids are chemicals that act on the brain’s cannabinoid receptors, part of a system that regulates a variety of physiological processes including pain sensation, mood, memory and appetite.
In high doses, THC can induce temporary schizophrenia-like psychotic symptoms such as paranoia, delusions, anxiety and hallucinations. Yet cannabis also contains a cannabinoid known as CBD (or cannabidiol), which appears to have almost the exact opposite effect.
Purified CBD has been shown to have antipsychotic and anti-anxiety effects, and can lessen the psychotic symptoms normally experienced by people given high doses of THC. Research by University College London also suggests that people who smoke cannabis rich in CBD are less likely to experience “schizophrenia-like symptoms” than those who smoke cannabis containing only THC.
Both quotes in this post excerpted from: http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/nov/16/new-strain-cannabis-treat-psychosis-schizophrenia-gw-pharmaceuticals-david-potter
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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Achillita]
#22336889 - 10/05/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah this is something to expect from some people but for it to last after the THC has wore off, seems way off. Like one person said "awoke an illness inside her"
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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: berdinwall]
#22336926 - 10/05/15 01:24 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Sun King]
#22338346 - 10/05/15 07:56 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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336 said: Question: How do we know that schizophrenics are actually crazy and that everything they think/see/hear isn't actually real?
I mean the stories of mystics, magicians and oracles had to come from somewhere.
Do you know any schizophrenics? I didn't think so.
I am schizophrenic and i can tell you that 80% of what you think is real..isnt. It seems so fucking real though..part of me still thinks all those thoughts of mine are going to come true..but i know they wont.
What happens is when youre schizo something will happenand you will think it had some greater purpose when in fact..it was just random. But there are some true coincidences but its almost impossible to know the difference when schizophrenia is in action
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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#22338498 - 10/05/15 08:30 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sun King said:
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336 said: Question: How do we know that schizophrenics are actually crazy and that everything they think/see/hear isn't actually real?
I mean the stories of mystics, magicians and oracles had to come from somewhere.
Do you know any schizophrenics? I didn't think so.
I am schizophrenic and i can tell you that 80% of what you think is real..isnt. It seems so fucking real though..part of me still thinks all those thoughts of mine are going to come true..but i know they wont.
What happens is when youre schizo something will happenand you will think it had some greater purpose when in fact..it was just random. But there are some true coincidences but its almost impossible to know the difference when schizophrenia is in action
What is your previous drug use like? Im just curious? What do you do think caused/triggered it?
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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: topdog82]
#22338540 - 10/05/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, since 14 I smoked weed basically everyday. I am 24 now.
Then when I hit 18-19 I got into psychs. I tripped a lot then from ages 21-23 I was smoking hash oil non stop every single day, all day plus tripping. This sent me over the edge and I was sent to a psych ward for 29 days. I was diagnosed with schizophrenia and got put on pills.
So 3 weeks later I stopped taking my pills because they made me fall asleep at the wheel and I totaled my car. so I said fuck it and stopped. Well..bad choice. I ended up going nuts again and got sent to another psych ward for 2 weeks. I then was changed from having to take the psych med "halidol" to now taking "Invega".
so I was on invega for about a month. I noticed it helped me and made me feel normal but I could feel mself getting addicted and had side-effects. I decided to go against doctors orders and tapered off of them myself. I did it over the period of 30 days. I haven't smoked weed since(January will be 2 years) and I have only tripped 4 times or so, and I feel completely back to normal and have been for over a year now.
I know it wasn't smart to taper myself but im glad I did. So I guess what I had wasn't really schizophrenia, but it was more of a "drug-induced psychosis" because if I had schizo then I would NEED the meds. but im just saying that I was diagnosed with schizophrenia..so I guess the doctors got it wrong or something. maybe they are right...who knows.
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Re: HPPD: the dirty little secret that psychedelic users have swept under the rug [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#22338763 - 10/05/15 09:27 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: Well, since 14 I smoked weed basically everyday. I am 24 now.
Then when I hit 18-19 I got into psychs. I tripped a lot then from ages 21-23 I was smoking hash oil non stop every single day, all day plus tripping. This sent me over the edge and I was sent to a psych ward for 29 days. I was diagnosed with schizophrenia and got put on pills.
So 3 weeks later I stopped taking my pills because they made me fall asleep at the wheel and I totaled my car. so I said fuck it and stopped. Well..bad choice. I ended up going nuts again and got sent to another psych ward for 2 weeks. I then was changed from having to take the psych med "halidol" to now taking "Invega".
so I was on invega for about a month. I noticed it helped me and made me feel normal but I could feel mself getting addicted and had side-effects. I decided to go against doctors orders and tapered off of them myself. I did it over the period of 30 days. I haven't smoked weed since(January will be 2 years) and I have only tripped 4 times or so, and I feel completely back to normal and have been for over a year now.
I know it wasn't smart to taper myself but im glad I did. So I guess what I had wasn't really schizophrenia, but it was more of a "drug-induced psychosis" because if I had schizo then I would NEED the meds. but im just saying that I was diagnosed with schizophrenia..so I guess the doctors got it wrong or something. maybe they are right...who knows.
huh...would you say that psyches triggered your schizo?
I have been tripping HEAVILY every weekend, soemtimes even twice a week. And I have 0 symptoms of hppd or psychosis
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