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Help Me Save My Salvias!!
    #22248515 - 09/16/15 09:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So basically I have no way of replacing these salvia plants if they die. I have neglected them too long (I don't live with them) and didn't visit them enough. They seem really ill and I don't know what kind of soil to buy to transplant them, etc. to fix them. I figure I should take cuttings and transplant the rest but I don't have any soil nor do I know what to use. They haven't been in a humidity dome for years but would it help? I don't know what I'd make one out of but I could try. Everything about them is sad, from leaves to soil. Please provide advice if you know anything about salvia. I will do whatever I need to to save them. Here are some pictures:













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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: jellyfish]
    #22248688 - 09/16/15 10:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Those claw leaves look like the plants have way too much N.

I have no experience with salvia, but have seen those on cannabis plants.

Maybe a bit too moist as well, seeing the algae on the soil surface.


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: El Torcho]
    #22248765 - 09/16/15 10:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Maybe a bit too moist as well, seeing the algae on the soil surface.



I Would say cut them at the base and stick them in water to root but idk about that because they are currently suffering for over watering....


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: AquaticPuzzle]
    #22248982 - 09/17/15 12:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yellowing leaves.. brown edges... not too bad looking.
It does look like someone has been over watering them. I'd say take some cuttings, put them in water and in a humidity tent for a few weeks, then place them in some soil that has been mixed with 50% or more perlite, with a humidity tent for a few weeks until the roots take.


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: Oggy]
    #22252416 - 09/17/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Yellowing leaves.. brown edges... not too bad looking.
It does look like someone has been over watering them. I'd say take some cuttings, put them in water and in a humidity tent for a few weeks, then place them in some soil that has been mixed with 50% or more perlite, with a humidity tent for a few weeks until the roots take.




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I personally wouldn't go with the humidity tent, but that's just me...
I think the most glaring issue I see is that these plants' soil has been staying too wet for too long (judging from the algae). I'm thinking you need a different soil mix for future endeavors.


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: jellyfish]
    #22252954 - 09/17/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

the soil looks way too compact and dense, roots are probably suffocating in there. 

i would either make new cuttings as suggested above, or repot the plants into new soil.  i move my sally cuttings into miracle gro cactus/citrus mix and they love it.  that or just regular MG potting mix.  these are both peat-based and sally seems to love the nice airy fluffyness for her roots.


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: Yrat]
    #22261457 - 09/19/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Yrat said: sally seems to love the nice airy fluffyness for her roots.




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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #22262921 - 09/20/15 12:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Humidity tents should be a requirement for taking cuttings. I tried taking one without one and it withered away in a day or so.


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: Oggy]
    #22264338 - 09/20/15 11:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Humidity tents should be a requirement for taking cuttings. I tried taking one without one and it withered away in a day or so.




High humidity seems to be a must. I use my good old SGFC and that works well for me. I never lost a cutting that way.


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: Browser]
    #22264514 - 09/20/15 12:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i never make my cuttings in a tent and they do just fine.  i root them in plain water, sticking the stem in an old seltzer bottle... never lose any.  just make sure the parent plant is fully acclimated to the same conditions.


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: Yrat]
    #22270908 - 09/21/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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i never make my cuttings in a tent and they do just fine.  i root them in plain water, sticking the stem in an old seltzer bottle... never lose any.  just make sure the parent plant is fully acclimated to the same conditions.




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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #22290779 - 09/25/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Alright I got new potting mix and am holding off on watering them to see if over watering is part of the issue as some of you suggested. Thank you all for your input. New pics will be posted shortly.


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: jellyfish]
    #22473256 - 11/03/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I got busy again and they are almost dead. No one where I live sells them and nobody I've talked to ships here. I have set time aside to deal with them tomorrow. Can anyone recommended me a brand of potting soil? I was just going to go to crappy tire (shitty Canadian department store) to get soil as garden centres in this area are probably closed for the winter. I really don't want to see these die. They still have some green but they're fading fast. I am upset I could have deprived them of attention for so long.


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: jellyfish]
    #22473277 - 11/03/15 08:44 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Not gonna lie about the potting soil thing - I either use MG or just mix up my own for sallies...

Just got to thinking though looking back through the thread, have you checked to see if you have fungus gnats? Seeing all that wet soil you had before has me wondering.


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #22473298 - 11/03/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I used to grow mushrooms (miss it so much) and remember hearing of the dreaded gnats but it's not something I thought of. I will look up what they look like and check. I'm probably going to butcher the plants down into hopeful cuttings. If the main plant is left with no leaves is there a chance it will grow new ones in new soil or will it just be dead? There's not too much life on the plant now to imagine really taking a cutting and somehow saving the mother. I used to make my cuttings in jiffy pellets. Is that the way to go? I still don't know if I should apply humidity because obviously whatever I'm doing isn't working. I really am praying that I can make one viable cutting and save my babies. My san pedros, my peyotes look fine. When I grew pot, beautiful. Magic mushrooms, monotubs on rye and coir, amazing. It hurts to see my babies like this especially since they're irreplaceable atm but honestly I hate seeing things die period, I don't even squish fucking insects. Not my place to add suffering to the world there's a shit ton already.


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #22473316 - 11/03/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I agree, as much as I hate miracle grow, its what I use for my salvia plants. I just mix in more perlite than soil. If you don't want to use miracle grow, use Espoma organic seed starting mix and add perlite to it for a 50/50 mix. Espoma contains mycorrhizae which really helps. In fact that's what I plan on putting all of my new cuttings in instead of miracle grow.


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: Oggy]
    #22473350 - 11/03/15 08:59 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Should I make my cutting in a jiffy pellet as I have done in the past with salvia and cannabis or is there a better way. I really can't screw these up.


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: jellyfish]
    #22473698 - 11/03/15 10:09 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

add some perlite, and give them Liquid Karma with your watering.


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: mentalexploration]
    #22477511 - 11/04/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Usually, it is safest to do what has worked in the past for you. Personally, I always root mine without soil in water that has a air bubbler under the cuttings....

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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #22480679 - 11/05/15 11:12 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I decided against jiffy pellets because the hydro store that sells them near me is run by stoner dicks (not saying stoners are dicks these guys are just dicks). I have peat moss anyways. I'm thinking peat moss or damp perlite. I got some promix potting soil and some perlite as the store I went to had almost nothing. Been having a hard time lately finding worm castings, I use them when I make cactus soil. Anyways this is all finally going down tonight. A transplant and some cuttings. Any last minute advice would be appreciated. I really hope I can keep something alive.


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: jellyfish]
    #22481334 - 11/05/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Excellent choice with promix, it's become my go to substrate base.
Mix a good amount of perlite to it and you're golden.
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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: When]
    #22483299 - 11/05/15 09:34 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Alright so I uprooted the 2 plants. Trimmed the root system heavily (partly to remove that moss and partly because a lot ripped when I pulled them out). Replanted them in promix with perlite mixed in. Watered them. Took one cutting and dipped it in rooting hormone then left it in wet perlite.

I also fertilized my peyotes, bridges, pedros, torchs and pereskiopsis so maybe I'll have some nicer pics to show you guys soon.

I have a bunch of baby peyotes and pereskiopsis and still haven't ever done a successful graft.

I really destroyed the roots on the salvias. Wasn't trying to remove that much it all kinda fell apart. Both were left with basically one really long root each. I know sticking something without roots (aka the cutting) in a moist environment is asking for issues because they can't drink yet but that perlite will dry out soon. Going to just moisten it from time to time and hopefully a root grows. Thanks for all the help but as always additional advice would be greatly appreciated.


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: jellyfish]
    #22483550 - 11/05/15 10:18 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

You shouldn't ever remove roots on a plant unless you're trying to purposely stunt it's growth(eg, bonsai) and especially when they're weak and not doing well. Hopefully they will recover and do well!

As for the cuttings, make sure you change that water every night. Shake up the water real good to enrich it with oxygen. I don't know why, but all of the cuttings I've done this with grew out roots within a week. I haven't done this with the cutting I took recently and I'm well into week 2 without sign of roots.


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: Oggy]
    #22483943 - 11/05/15 11:28 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I needed to cut out the algae and the roots encompassed the entire thing. Also fell apart really easily. They are old plants and the root systems were big but the plants are almost dead and have barely any leaves so the roots they have left will hopefully be enough to sustain their like, 4 leaves.


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: jellyfish]
    #22485542 - 11/06/15 11:02 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Mine do well when I water them with my slightly acidic well water. I would watch the ph on the water that you use.


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: Oggy]
    #22488112 - 11/06/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

^what he said =)


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: mentalexploration]
    #22488474 - 11/06/15 09:37 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I was actually just about to ask about pH. Like I mentioned I grow cacti, and I heard from someone with a lot of experience that he waters his peyotes and pedros with water he's adjusted to around pH 6 if I can recall correctly. I began using phosphoric acid to lower the pH of my tap water and it really seemed to help my cacti. I guess I'll water my salvias with pH 6ish water from now on.


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: jellyfish]
    #22491659 - 11/07/15 04:19 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I've got pics to post but they're gruesome.


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: jellyfish]
    #22492328 - 11/07/15 06:20 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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The one on the left actually looks healthy.


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: Oggy]
    #22493002 - 11/07/15 08:58 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

The one on the left is the cutting. I really hope it roots. I'm going to resurrect my garden thread tonight to post some new pics of my other plants which don't make me look as incompetent as a gardener.


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: jellyfish]
    #22493306 - 11/07/15 10:11 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Put it into a high humidity area so those leaves don't wilt too fast. Like a humitidy dome or something. You can slowly acclimate a healthier plant to your home later.


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: jellyfish]
    #22494358 - 11/08/15 06:03 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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just from looks, i would guess overwatering and possibly root rot.  how wet is that soil?  What is it made out of?  how often do you water?


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: Yrat]
    #22495021 - 11/08/15 10:15 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

They were just transplanted. I don't remember what old soil they were in before. Part of how they're looking is just the shock of being transplanted in such a weak state.


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: jellyfish]
    #22502752 - 11/09/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I'm pretty sure they had root rot from how quick the roots fell apart. The cutting is looking okay. The plants are looking like death :frown:. They've been in the new soil since Thursday. One of the pots has gone dry, not sure how long to wait between waterings. The soil they were in before was dense and covered with some kind of green growth which made it dry out slowly. Now they are in looser soil with perlite in clay pots so they're going to dry a lot quicker. Pics to come. They look like shit though.







I feel the cutting and one of those plants has a chance ( the last pic). His soil is dry now like I said not sure how often to water. I removed most of his root mass.


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: jellyfish]
    #22505198 - 11/10/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

The cutting in the pot with succulents looks very healthy. I hope it roots for you.
Watering is pretty easy to get down. Here's what I do, and it seems to work great for me.

Step 1: wait until leaves began to droop slightly
Step 2: water
Step 3: repeat step 1
For me, this ritual is done every 7 to 10 days. It has kept my plants alive, but I don't know if it has had any dire health effects.

Root rot seems to be really difficult to get if your plants are on a soil mix that stays aerated(which can easily be done by just shaking the shit out of a bottle of water before you dump some on them).

As for water, I use just cheap distilled water from the local grocery store. I'll be using melted snow this winter though if my cutting ever takes off.


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: Oggy]
    #22505242 - 11/10/15 02:03 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I understand the logic behind waiting until they look like they are thirst but I'm wondering if their pots get completely dry between waterings?


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    #22505609 - 11/10/15 03:17 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

The pots will not be completely dry when they begin showing signs of needing water.


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: Oggy]
    #22506366 - 11/10/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Alright thanks. I know I was over watering before but yesterday one of them was in soil that was completely dry (you could have just poured it out) and so I gave it a splash of water. Does anyone else think I should be acidifying my tap water (it comes out pretty close to 7)


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: jellyfish]
    #22506482 - 11/10/15 06:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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Alright thanks. I know I was over watering before but yesterday one of them was in soil that was completely dry (you could have just poured it out) and so I gave it a splash of water. Does anyone else think I should be acidifying my tap water (it comes out pretty close to 7)




Honestly, from what I can see it just looks like over watering. I wouldn't really worry about pH unless your tap water is super acidic or basic, which I doubt. As long as its somewhere near 6 you should be fine. As far as cuttings go I prefer a water reservoir with an air stone (they are cheap just go to your local pet store/walmart) But the cutting looks promising in the perlite, it's just going to need a lot of attention because perlite drys out really quick. Good luck man!

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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: gardenstate]
    #22506708 - 11/10/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I sadly don't live where I have my plants. So I don't see them everyday. If that perlites dried up or their soil is I won't know till earliest tomorrow morning but I guess that's not even so bad. I never use rooting hormone for cuttings but this time I slathered it on for good luck. The reason I think that root rot fucked my plants is by how easily I accidentally destroyed their root systems when I transplanted them. I had meant to trim their roots a bit but they just fell apart.

edit: also my tap water isn't at 6 its like 7 so ten times more basic. I mix up pH 6 water for my cacti but never used it for my sages.


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: jellyfish]
    #22507111 - 11/10/15 09:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I sadly don't live where I have my plants. So I don't see them everyday. If that perlites dried up or their soil is I won't know till earliest tomorrow morning but I guess that's not even so bad. I never use rooting hormone for cuttings but this time I slathered it on for good luck. The reason I think that root rot fucked my plants is by how easily I accidentally destroyed their root systems when I transplanted them. I had meant to trim their roots a bit but they just fell apart.

edit: also my tap water isn't at 6 its like 7 so ten times more basic. I mix up pH 6 water for my cacti but never used it for my sages.




Well proper pH won't hurt but I think over watering which lead to root rot is the real issue here (of course just a guess from the pictures) If you are not able to care for the cuttings I think sticking them in water with rooting hormone might be your best bet, it requires far less attention. Aeration is crucial when rooting in water if you can't get an air pump at least change the water as frequently as possible. Also with the cuttings a humidity tent would probably serve them well, just take a 2l soda bottle cut the bottom off, poke some holes like a SGFC and leave the top open. As your plants start to mature poke more holes in the bottle to slowly lower the humidity and eventually get them acclimated to your area. I'm sending some good vibes out to your little sally plants hope all goes well! :peace:


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: gardenstate]
    #22507234 - 11/10/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I have a proper SGFC somewhere. Holes all spaced out and shit exactly like RR. And I have air bubblers from when I had fish. Reason I didn't use a humidity tent was because the mother was somewhat acclimatized if you can use that word to describe a plant that sick.

edit: I'm either doing the bubbler thing or just going to check on it everyday and keep it in perlite.


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    #22508698 - 11/11/15 10:19 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

If you can't check your plants every day you would be best to use a humidity tent for that cutting. Otherwise as soon as that water is gone, that plant will be too.


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    #22508856 - 11/11/15 11:06 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I have been making the effort to see them everyday, even though its unusual for me to its not that far. The cutting looks a lot better. I think its gonna pull through. Considering converting an old fish tank into a humidity chamber. Thinking of cutting up the two potted salvias into cuttings cause they are looking like shit still.


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    #22510156 - 11/11/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

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I have been making the effort to see them everyday, even though its unusual for me to its not that far. The cutting looks a lot better. I think its gonna pull through. Considering converting an old fish tank into a humidity chamber. Thinking of cutting up the two potted salvias into cuttings cause they are looking like shit still.




:manofapproval:

I think the cutting will pull through... regardless of its acclimation I still think a humidity tent would help, you can always slowly re-acclimate it back to your environment. You just need one mother to survive

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    #22515415 - 11/12/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Okay they still look like shit but I feel 2 of them are looking slightly less shitty. Hard to tell:







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    #22539550 - 11/17/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

one of them died :frown:











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    #22539819 - 11/17/15 11:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

:badmanthisfeels:  :feelssadman:  :wtfsonic:


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    #22539876 - 11/17/15 11:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Sorry to hear about your plant man. How much light were they getting? What was the ph of the water.. what was the PPM of the water you were giving them as well. Something does not add up. <SNIP> No trading in the EG
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one of them died :frown:














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    #22540046 - 11/18/15 12:29 AM (8 years, 2 months ago)

PPM of what in the water? PPM is a unit of concentration.


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    #22541594 - 11/18/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

What's your TDS count out the tap? I'm about 400 or so, at least last I checked.


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    #22560921 - 11/22/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

I have never tested it for dissolved solids no. How would I go about that?

I just wanted to make an update. I forgot to bring my camera so I have no pictures but my cutting grew roots! It looks healthier and happier, I moved it from the perlite to some fresh promix diluted with perlite. Soil wasn't packed in at all, nice and airy. The one plant that doesn't look like death looks healthier as well and no longer needs a stake to hold it up. The death plant though is done. I am hesitating to throw it out. If I chopped the stem into segments could they possibly root? I know they have no leaves but could there be enough starch in the stem to grow ad t root and a new set of leaves or no? Should I just throw it out (keeping the leaves of course) or is there anything that I can do with a salvia plant that only just shed its final leaves.

So basically I have hope now, seeing that my cutting worked. Thanks again to everyone who provided advice. I also found a couple people willing to send me plants so although I'm pretty broke I might get some just in case but I really really want to save these guys. Have had them since about 2006.


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    #22582369 - 11/27/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

My cutting I had put in perlite rooted so I planted it in soil



The plant I had transplanted is still holding on



But the other one I had is completely dead. Going to harvest its leaves to perhaps smoke one day and then throw it out.




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    #22583502 - 11/27/15 06:16 PM (8 years, 2 months ago)

Omg.. I feel sorry for those babies and your grow Jellyfish.


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    #22642254 - 12/11/15 11:04 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Well. It looked like they were dead. I got a new plant through the mail, which is beautiful. But, now the 2 plants that were almost dead in those pictures, have started growing new shoots. Turns out what they needed was fresh, loose soil. I had almost written them off as goners but they have some really nice new growth now. Pics coming soon. Looks like I managed to save them in the nick of time. Can't wait to show you guys.


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    #22642634 - 12/11/15 01:31 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Forgot I took this pic last week. They're already a lot bigger. These are the ones I got because I thought mine were goners. These guys look even nicer right now and like I said, the dying ones are growing beautiful new shoots.



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    #22645760 - 12/12/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Don't throw the dead one out. Harvest its leaves and leave the stem intact. A plant of mine had a condition that appears very similar to yours and died all the way to the ground. I left it alone for a few weeks and it sent out a perfectly healthy new stem from the roots which is now growing its 6th set of true leaves.


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    #22645778 - 12/12/15 10:59 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

I threw it out and kept the leaves because it was actually brittle and destroyed. But like I said, the other 2 are making a comeback.


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    #22652167 - 12/13/15 09:54 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Some new growth on the base of my sick dying salvia plant. Got a bit of dirt on it when I watered it since the new leaves are so close to the base.





There's also some new growth on the stem.



That cutting I took and rooted in perlite, it's got some new growth too.



The two plants I got recently thinking mine were goners



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    #22652470 - 12/13/15 11:55 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

The one on the right has a flower bud forming.


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    #22652481 - 12/14/15 12:02 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Really? Oh shit. What do I do?


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    #22653312 - 12/14/15 09:42 AM (8 years, 1 month ago)

:shrug:
Still trying to figure that one out.


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    #22654230 - 12/14/15 02:38 PM (8 years, 1 month ago)

Wow, that's got the be the smallest flowering salvia I've ever seen.


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    #22726585 - 01/02/16 02:28 AM (8 years, 29 days ago)

It's very satisfying to have started this thread desperate to save my plants and now I have 2 new cuttings and the ones I was about to put in the compost have recovered and are growing new leaves, which seem a bit small and misshapen.....    


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    #22730471 - 01/03/16 12:27 AM (8 years, 28 days ago)

Some times they put out weirdly shaped leaves. If a node continues to grow similar leaves through out it's life then you should take care and propagate it.
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    #22733801 - 01/03/16 10:08 PM (8 years, 27 days ago)

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    #22813356 - 01/23/16 12:54 AM (8 years, 8 days ago)

One of those almost dead salvias I showed you are now the healthiest salvias I've ever had. Full recovery, bushy and the most vibrant green. Pics tomorrow.

However I got some dream herb cuttings recently in the mail that erupted in aphids. Are my salvias fucked. I sprayed with pyrethrum. Any advice? Will they eat my pedros and peyotes?


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    #22885378 - 02/09/16 09:32 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

My salvia cutting in November



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    #23331326 - 06/10/16 11:46 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

I am so happy about my plants recovery



They were looking so crappy when I made this thread. I was so embarrassed I let them get so unhealthy.



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