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jellyfish


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: gardenstate]
#22506708 - 11/10/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I sadly don't live where I have my plants. So I don't see them everyday. If that perlites dried up or their soil is I won't know till earliest tomorrow morning but I guess that's not even so bad. I never use rooting hormone for cuttings but this time I slathered it on for good luck. The reason I think that root rot fucked my plants is by how easily I accidentally destroyed their root systems when I transplanted them. I had meant to trim their roots a bit but they just fell apart.
edit: also my tap water isn't at 6 its like 7 so ten times more basic. I mix up pH 6 water for my cacti but never used it for my sages.
Edited by jellyfish (11/10/15 07:32 PM)
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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: jellyfish]
#22507111 - 11/10/15 09:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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jellyfish said: I sadly don't live where I have my plants. So I don't see them everyday. If that perlites dried up or their soil is I won't know till earliest tomorrow morning but I guess that's not even so bad. I never use rooting hormone for cuttings but this time I slathered it on for good luck. The reason I think that root rot fucked my plants is by how easily I accidentally destroyed their root systems when I transplanted them. I had meant to trim their roots a bit but they just fell apart.
edit: also my tap water isn't at 6 its like 7 so ten times more basic. I mix up pH 6 water for my cacti but never used it for my sages.
Well proper pH won't hurt but I think over watering which lead to root rot is the real issue here (of course just a guess from the pictures) If you are not able to care for the cuttings I think sticking them in water with rooting hormone might be your best bet, it requires far less attention. Aeration is crucial when rooting in water if you can't get an air pump at least change the water as frequently as possible. Also with the cuttings a humidity tent would probably serve them well, just take a 2l soda bottle cut the bottom off, poke some holes like a SGFC and leave the top open. As your plants start to mature poke more holes in the bottle to slowly lower the humidity and eventually get them acclimated to your area. I'm sending some good vibes out to your little sally plants hope all goes well!
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jellyfish


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: gardenstate]
#22507234 - 11/10/15 09:40 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have a proper SGFC somewhere. Holes all spaced out and shit exactly like RR. And I have air bubblers from when I had fish. Reason I didn't use a humidity tent was because the mother was somewhat acclimatized if you can use that word to describe a plant that sick.
edit: I'm either doing the bubbler thing or just going to check on it everyday and keep it in perlite.
Edited by jellyfish (11/10/15 09:41 PM)
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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: jellyfish]
#22508698 - 11/11/15 10:19 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you can't check your plants every day you would be best to use a humidity tent for that cutting. Otherwise as soon as that water is gone, that plant will be too.
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jellyfish


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: Oggy]
#22508856 - 11/11/15 11:06 AM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have been making the effort to see them everyday, even though its unusual for me to its not that far. The cutting looks a lot better. I think its gonna pull through. Considering converting an old fish tank into a humidity chamber. Thinking of cutting up the two potted salvias into cuttings cause they are looking like shit still.
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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: jellyfish]
#22510156 - 11/11/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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jellyfish said: I have been making the effort to see them everyday, even though its unusual for me to its not that far. The cutting looks a lot better. I think its gonna pull through. Considering converting an old fish tank into a humidity chamber. Thinking of cutting up the two potted salvias into cuttings cause they are looking like shit still.

I think the cutting will pull through... regardless of its acclimation I still think a humidity tent would help, you can always slowly re-acclimate it back to your environment. You just need one mother to survive
Good luck man! Keep us posted
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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: gardenstate]
#22515415 - 11/12/15 07:33 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Okay they still look like shit but I feel 2 of them are looking slightly less shitty. Hard to tell:


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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: jellyfish]
#22539550 - 11/17/15 09:46 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: jellyfish]
#22539819 - 11/17/15 11:08 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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mentalexploration
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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: jellyfish]
#22539876 - 11/17/15 11:31 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sorry to hear about your plant man. How much light were they getting? What was the ph of the water.. what was the PPM of the water you were giving them as well. Something does not add up. <SNIP> No trading in the EG
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jellyfish said: one of them died 





Edited by Mostly_Harmless (11/18/15 12:25 AM)
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jellyfish


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PPM of what in the water? PPM is a unit of concentration.
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mentalexploration
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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: jellyfish]
#22541594 - 11/18/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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What's your TDS count out the tap? I'm about 400 or so, at least last I checked.
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jellyfish


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I have never tested it for dissolved solids no. How would I go about that?
I just wanted to make an update. I forgot to bring my camera so I have no pictures but my cutting grew roots! It looks healthier and happier, I moved it from the perlite to some fresh promix diluted with perlite. Soil wasn't packed in at all, nice and airy. The one plant that doesn't look like death looks healthier as well and no longer needs a stake to hold it up. The death plant though is done. I am hesitating to throw it out. If I chopped the stem into segments could they possibly root? I know they have no leaves but could there be enough starch in the stem to grow ad t root and a new set of leaves or no? Should I just throw it out (keeping the leaves of course) or is there anything that I can do with a salvia plant that only just shed its final leaves.
So basically I have hope now, seeing that my cutting worked. Thanks again to everyone who provided advice. I also found a couple people willing to send me plants so although I'm pretty broke I might get some just in case but I really really want to save these guys. Have had them since about 2006.
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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: jellyfish]
#22582369 - 11/27/15 01:20 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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My cutting I had put in perlite rooted so I planted it in soil

The plant I had transplanted is still holding on

But the other one I had is completely dead. Going to harvest its leaves to perhaps smoke one day and then throw it out.

Like always any advice is greatly appreciated.
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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: jellyfish]
#22583502 - 11/27/15 06:16 PM (8 years, 2 months ago) |
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Omg.. I feel sorry for those babies and your grow Jellyfish.
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jellyfish


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Well. It looked like they were dead. I got a new plant through the mail, which is beautiful. But, now the 2 plants that were almost dead in those pictures, have started growing new shoots. Turns out what they needed was fresh, loose soil. I had almost written them off as goners but they have some really nice new growth now. Pics coming soon. Looks like I managed to save them in the nick of time. Can't wait to show you guys.
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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: jellyfish]
#22642634 - 12/11/15 01:31 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Forgot I took this pic last week. They're already a lot bigger. These are the ones I got because I thought mine were goners. These guys look even nicer right now and like I said, the dying ones are growing beautiful new shoots.
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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: jellyfish]
#22645760 - 12/12/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Don't throw the dead one out. Harvest its leaves and leave the stem intact. A plant of mine had a condition that appears very similar to yours and died all the way to the ground. I left it alone for a few weeks and it sent out a perfectly healthy new stem from the roots which is now growing its 6th set of true leaves.
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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: germx99]
#22645778 - 12/12/15 10:59 AM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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I threw it out and kept the leaves because it was actually brittle and destroyed. But like I said, the other 2 are making a comeback.
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Re: Help Me Save My Salvias!! [Re: jellyfish]
#22652167 - 12/13/15 09:54 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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Some new growth on the base of my sick dying salvia plant. Got a bit of dirt on it when I watered it since the new leaves are so close to the base.


There's also some new growth on the stem.

That cutting I took and rooted in perlite, it's got some new growth too.

The two plants I got recently thinking mine were goners

All 4 of my salvias
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