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Minimal condensation with glass pasty plates 1
#22247591 - 09/16/15 07:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just wanted to show you guys/gals my method of greatly reducing condensation using the no pour pasty plate method with glass 1/2 pint jars instead of plastic pp5 containers.
First mix your agar, I use pastys recipe but double all the ingredients except the karo, still only use a drop or 2. I also add an extra 1/4 cup of water to the mix. This will be enough for 12 1/2 pints with 1 1/2 tbl spoons of agar mix per jar. Once the agar is ready, put 1 1/2 tbl spoons of agar into each jar and let them cool and solidify.

Next the lids- I use plastic wide mouth lids with a 3/8" hole drilled in the center. These lids are also used on all my grain jars.

I use 2 pieces of micropore tape over the holes

Now add the folded square of paper towel and tape it to the lid

After the agar in the jars are cooled and solidified, screw on your lids. There should be no condensation in the jars at this point if you let the agar cool enough prior to adding the lids.

Next wrap the jars using 2 pieces of foil per jar. The first piece goes on the lid and folded under the jar

The second piece goes on the bottom and folded in top of the lid

Make sure to wrap them with foil in that order, doing the opposite will allow steam and water in between the foil and the jars adding to the condensation.
Next I remove the tray in the pc, put 3 metal lid rings in the bottom and place the tray over the rings

Then fill the pc with just enough water so it's just above the surface of the tray

Next just stack the jars in top of each other, put your lid on and start heating the pc up slowly. I use just over a medium heat

Once the pc is ready, add the weight yada yada and pc for 45 min.
When the pc time is up, turn the stove off and remove the pc from the hot burner to another area in the stove to depressurize. Once pressure has dropped and the plunger valve drops, let the pc stay closed for 30 min to cool a little. Then unscrew the lid and put it to the side leaving about a half inch gap and let everything cool for another 30 min

Now remove the plates from the pc and place them on the stove. Carefully remove the foil without tilting the plates. I use my thumb nail or a knife and cut the foil around the bottom of the lid and then peel it off

Here is what they look like after removing the foil using this method




And here is the worst one out of the batch

I then remove the paper towel squares and add one more piece of micropore tape over the holes.
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Re: Minimal condensation with glass pasty plates [Re: PinPornProducer]
#22247613 - 09/16/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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coool....i dont' get condensation with glass period
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Re: Minimal condensation with glass pasty plates [Re: PinPornProducer]
#22247634 - 09/16/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Great write up!
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Re: Minimal condensation with glass pasty plates [Re: cronicr]
#22247635 - 09/16/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah but how do you tiger drop it?
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Re: Minimal condensation with glass pasty plates [Re: elasticaltiger]
#22247780 - 09/16/15 08:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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scalpel around the edges
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Re: Minimal condensation with glass pasty plates [Re: cronicr]
#22247830 - 09/16/15 08:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Though it works it adds an unnecessary contamination vector. The beauty of the tiger drop and original pasty plates is that, with practice, the receiving jar can be open for basically a single second. The other beauty of pastyplates, specifically, is that the condensation isn't a Contam vector and goes away.
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Re: Minimal condensation with glass pasty plates [Re: elasticaltiger]
#22247872 - 09/16/15 08:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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i actually knock mine down and let both sides colonize before dropping my fav for the tiger drop is actually a salad cup lol!
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Re: Minimal condensation with glass pasty plates [Re: cronicr]
#22247934 - 09/16/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't tiger drop, id rather have a plate knock up 3 or 4 jars than just 1. I'm not knocking the tiger drop but I just like stretching my cultures as far as I reasonably can
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Re: Minimal condensation with glass pasty plates [Re: PinPornProducer]
#22247996 - 09/16/15 08:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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PinPornProducer said: I don't tiger drop, id rather have a plate knock up 3 or 4 jars than just 1. I'm not knocking the tiger drop but I just like stretching my cultures as far as I reasonably can
just make 3 or 4 extra plates nice write pin
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Re: Minimal condensation with glass pasty plates [Re: PinPornProducer]
#22248165 - 09/16/15 08:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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PinPornProducer said: I don't tiger drop, id rather have a plate knock up 3 or 4 jars than just 1. I'm not knocking the tiger drop but I just like stretching my cultures as far as I reasonably can
This is definitely an awesome post.
I think the potential of clean grains (literally as many cultures as there is grains) far outweighs the potential of four grain jars inoculated with four compounding contamination vectors.
-------------------- First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger! No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit. "The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates) Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson EZEKIEL 23:20
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Re: Minimal condensation with glass pasty plates [Re: elasticaltiger]
#22248238 - 09/16/15 09:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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A tiger drop is definitely a safer process, but with proper technique, agar wedges can be used just as successful
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Re: Minimal condensation with glass pasty plates [Re: elasticaltiger]
#22248299 - 09/16/15 09:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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elasticaltiger said:
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PinPornProducer said: I don't tiger drop, id rather have a plate knock up 3 or 4 jars than just 1. I'm not knocking the tiger drop but I just like stretching my cultures as far as I reasonably can
This is definitely an awesome post.
I think the potential of clean grains (literally as many cultures as there is grains) far outweighs the potential of four grain jars inoculated with four compounding contamination vectors.
I wouldn't worry about it. It's a problem if you can't use your agar to inoculate 4 jars. Agar use is the elimination of vectors to work with it you need to not vector contamination.
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Re: Minimal condensation with glass pasty plates [Re: bodhisatta]
#22248436 - 09/16/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said:
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elasticaltiger said:
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PinPornProducer said: I don't tiger drop, id rather have a plate knock up 3 or 4 jars than just 1. I'm not knocking the tiger drop but I just like stretching my cultures as far as I reasonably can
This is definitely an awesome post.
I think the potential of clean grains (literally as many cultures as there is grains) far outweighs the potential of four grain jars inoculated with four compounding contamination vectors.
I wouldn't worry about it. It's a problem if you can't use your agar to inoculate 4 jars. Agar use is the elimination of vectors to work with it you need to not vector contamination.
Well said.
-------------------- First time growing cakes? DON'T make a Shotgun Fruiting Chamber The Shmuvbox. - The Old TC's Like it Afraid to Start Growing From Your Own Prints? Drop it Like a Tiger! No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit. "The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT Pastywhite's Easy Agar Tek (PastyPlates) Tiger Drop Video Demos By munchauzen Van Gogh would’ve sold more than one painting if he’d put tigers in them.―Bill Watterson EZEKIEL 23:20
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Re: Minimal condensation with glass pasty plates [Re: elasticaltiger]
#22248444 - 09/16/15 09:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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thats cool. i use the something very similar with those 1/2 pints when i need a few extra. but now i have a fairly nice collection of glad mini rounds. but there is always room for more.
the 1/2 pints with sfd do end up drying out quicker when stored in the fridge compared to the mini rounds. the agar will end up drying up and shriveling. i wonder if the paper towel is the difference? i just let them sit with sfd on the shelf. but i find if i let em go too long or forget about them. the glass jars with sfd always dry out first.
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Re: Minimal condensation with glass pasty plates [Re: eatyualive]
#22248873 - 09/16/15 11:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just PC'd a batch of about 12 Pasty Plates and 1 glass 1/2 pint. Going to open them up later to see how the glass did.
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Re: Minimal condensation with glass pasty plates [Re: stareatclouds]
#22248887 - 09/16/15 11:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nice writeup!
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Re: Minimal condensation with glass pasty plates [Re: Darkhome]
#22251415 - 09/17/15 02:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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