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Achillita
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Dried Cactus dosage?
#22246887 - 09/16/15 04:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm thinking about ordering 1 ounce of dry cactus skin for a mescaline trip. I've tried mescaline before but got little to no effects. So what would be the required dosage?
Oh and btw, it's called "San Pedro Cactus Peruvian Torch Dried Chips" SO I don't know exactly what species..
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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: Achillita] 1
#22246969 - 09/16/15 05:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Those vary incredibly in potency. There's really no way of saying. The ones I used to order were very weak compared to what I work with now (fresh material).
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The potency of dried material for Trichocereus peruvianus is 0.01% - 0.82% and the potency of dried material for Trichocereus pachanoi is 0.1% - 2.375% according to the literature. https://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti_sanpedro_potency_faq.shtml
A common dose of mescaline is about 250mg https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mescaline/mescaline_dose.shtml
This means that if you don't know which kind of cactus material you're buying, you will need somewhere between 10.5g and 2,500g of dried material for a common dose.
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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: healing]
#22247107 - 09/16/15 05:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well I checked again, and it's Trichocereus Peruvianus. It also says it's "Powerful potent Incense" If I were to buy, it'd be 28 grams.
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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: Achillita]
#22247149 - 09/16/15 05:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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That would contain between 2.8mg and 229.6mg of mescaline.
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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: Achillita] 1
#22247176 - 09/16/15 05:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Achillita said: I'm thinking about ordering 1 ounce of dry cactus skin for a mescaline trip. I've tried mescaline before but got little to no effects. So what would be the required dosage?
Oh and btw, it's called "San Pedro Cactus Peruvian Torch Dried Chips" SO I don't know exactly what species..
Have you tried pure mescaline that didn't work or some cacti?
IMO one ounce of chips will not be enough. You will need two ounces.
PM me if you want a cheap reliable source directly from Peru.
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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: Dr. Delban]
#22247234 - 09/16/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It was san pedro I tried, and I got threshold effects at most.
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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: Achillita]
#22247265 - 09/16/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's possible that you will need at up to 1,000g of dried peruvian torch to get threshold effects.
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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: healing]
#22247336 - 09/16/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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healing said: It's possible that you will need at up to 1,000g of dried peruvian torch to get threshold effects.
Most probably this isn't going to happen.
Which one is stronger then, San Pedro?
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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: Achillita]
#22247339 - 09/16/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Achillita said: It was san pedro I tried, and I got threshold effects at most.
How much did you use? Was it a water extraction? Wave you only boiled once or more?
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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: Achillita]
#22247344 - 09/16/15 06:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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iF u have the money, get three ounces.
ive heard most dried chips off the net are weak.
I would recommend buying a couple feet of cuttings. Pricey, but naturally more potent.
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The dried chips I used to get, I would use about 100g or more. Beware though as potency is widely variable.
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Yeah last time I bought powdered San Pedro I did ethanol tar out of 100g and it felt great. Not too strong, not too weak, just perfect. I want to go deeper though.
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At 100 dried grams, how strong was the experience?
Was it "i wanna hug that nice tree!" strong or "I wanna kiss the Sun on the face!" strong?
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I'd say somewhere in the middle ground
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OP, if I were you, I would buy bridgesii cactus cuttings online, cut them up, throw the pieces in a dehydrator, then blend the pieces to powder. What you do with the powder is up to you, but I would brew it in a coffee machine a few times then put the juice in a pot on the stove and boil it down to a drinkable amount.
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nicechrisman said: I'd say somewhere in the middle ground
Nice 
As for Bill's suggestion, i would be afraid to lose potency from drying wet cacti chips then boiling the powder.
but never trieed it so cant say if it affects potency. Ive only done teas from fresh cuttings.
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LogicaL Chaos said: At 100 dried grams, how strong was the experience?
Was it "i wanna hug that nice tree!" strong or "I wanna kiss the Sun on the face!" strong?
Mine on 100g felt very euphoric. I dosed at around 2pm and stayed up all night, went to sleep after 11 AM the next day.
When peaking if I closed my eyes I was getting CEVs and I was hearing robotic sounds which were twisting my head and jaw. My body was vibrating and trembling. I kept lying down on bed, then sitting up and watching concerts, interviews etc. then laying down again all night long. I was hardly able to read text as it was moving. People's faces looked like they were taken from oil paintings. Human voices sounded bio-robotic. Curtains and walls breathing. The best part of the trip was not the CEVs or OEVs but the way I felt inside my head, the state of my mind and the thought processes.
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nicechrisman said: I'd say somewhere in the middle ground
Nice 
As for Bill's suggestion, i would be afraid to lose potency from drying wet cacti chips then boiling the powder.
but never trieed it so cant say if it affects potency. Ive only done teas from fresh cuttings.
Well I know the method works for mushrooms 
well don't boil it, more like a simmer
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nicechrisman said: The dried chips I used to get, I would use about 100g or more. Beware though as potency is widely variable.
Was that pachanoi or peruvianus?
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Dr. Delban said: Yeah last time I bought powdered San Pedro I did ethanol tar out of 100g and it felt great. Not too strong, not too weak, just perfect. I want to go deeper though.
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nicechrisman said: Beware though as potency is widely variable.
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LogicaL Chaos said: At 100 dried grams, how strong was the experience?
Was it "i wanna hug that nice tree!" strong or "I wanna kiss the Sun on the face!" strong?
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nicechrisman said: Beware though as potency is widely variable.
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Bill_Oreilly said:
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LogicaL Chaos said:
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nicechrisman said: I'd say somewhere in the middle ground
Nice 
As for Bill's suggestion, i would be afraid to lose potency from drying wet cacti chips then boiling the powder.
but never trieed it so cant say if it affects potency. Ive only done teas from fresh cuttings.
Well I know the method works for mushrooms 
well don't boil it, more like a simmer
You can boil the shit out of cactus.
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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: healing]
#22249090 - 09/17/15 12:50 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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That was peruvianus
Beware though as potency is widely variable.
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Well, I'm ordering 120 grams of San Pedro powder. I'm excited, as I'm getting it for nearly the exact same price as the 28 grams I was going to get.
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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: Achillita]
#22251206 - 09/17/15 01:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Achillita said: Well, I'm ordering 120 grams of San Pedro powder. I'm excited, as I'm getting it for nearly the exact same price as the 28 grams I was going to get.
Thats brilliant, are you getting it from "this guy" ?
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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: Dr. Delban]
#22251211 - 09/17/15 01:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah
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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: Achillita]
#22251243 - 09/17/15 01:25 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Achillita said: yeah 
Thats cool. 120 g will make one proper strong dose or two enjoyable medium ones. Hopefully he has a good batch at the moment. Did you mention the code word to him? Thanks if you did!
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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: Achillita]
#22251301 - 09/17/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dont forget to smoke weed during the peak.
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Weed intensifies cacti trips MUCH. I only did this combo once in the past. I drank some weak tea and I only had mild effects. But when I smoked a joint I started having proper auditory hallucinations and started seeing (and examinating) patterns on the walls.
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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: Dr. Delban] 1
#22251564 - 09/17/15 02:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Also coffee and dark chocolate can intensify a mediocre cactus trip
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nicechrisman said: Also coffee and dark chocolate can intensify a mediocre cactus trip
No please don't drink any coffee. I once listened to some guy who advised to flush the bad taste of cactus with strong black coffee. This caused some severe chest pains. So strong that I couldn't move my left arm. At some point I couldn't move at all as it caused pain in my chest. I could only stay still on the floor. It was true horror. I think I fell asleep there on the floor in the end.
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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: Dr. Delban]
#22251666 - 09/17/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Weird. I usually have a strong espresso drink pretty much every time I take cactus.
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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: Dr. Delban]
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nicechrisman said: Also coffee and dark chocolate can intensify a mediocre cactus trip
No please don't drink any coffee. I once listened to some guy who advised to flush the bad taste of cactus with strong black coffee. This caused some severe chest pains. So strong that I couldn't move my left arm. At some point I couldn't move at all as it caused pain in my chest. I could only stay still on the floor. It was true horror. I think I fell asleep there on the floor in the end.
That was probably just you.
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nicechrisman said: Also coffee and dark chocolate can intensify a mediocre cactus trip
I know all about frappuccino's while tripping face on DOC or bridgesii.
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