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Dried Cactus dosage?
    #22246887 - 09/16/15 04:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'm thinking about ordering 1 ounce of dry cactus skin for a mescaline trip. I've tried mescaline before but got little to no effects. So what would be the required dosage?

Oh and btw, it's called "San Pedro Cactus Peruvian Torch Dried Chips" SO I don't know exactly what species..


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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: Achillita] * 1
    #22246969 - 09/16/15 05:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Those vary incredibly in potency. There's really no way of saying. The ones I used to order were very weak compared to what I work with now (fresh material).


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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22247056 - 09/16/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The potency of dried material for Trichocereus peruvianus is 0.01% - 0.82% and the potency of dried material for Trichocereus pachanoi is 0.1% - 2.375% according to the literature.
https://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti_sanpedro_potency_faq.shtml

A common dose of mescaline is about 250mg
https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mescaline/mescaline_dose.shtml

This means that if you don't know which kind of cactus material you're buying, you will need somewhere between 10.5g and 2,500g of dried material for a common dose.


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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: healing]
    #22247107 - 09/16/15 05:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well I checked again, and it's Trichocereus Peruvianus. It also says it's "Powerful potent Incense" If I were to buy, it'd be 28 grams.


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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: Achillita]
    #22247149 - 09/16/15 05:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

That would contain between 2.8mg and 229.6mg of mescaline.


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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: Achillita] * 1
    #22247176 - 09/16/15 05:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm thinking about ordering 1 ounce of dry cactus skin for a mescaline trip. I've tried mescaline before but got little to no effects. So what would be the required dosage?

Oh and btw, it's called "San Pedro Cactus Peruvian Torch Dried Chips" SO I don't know exactly what species..




Have you tried pure mescaline that didn't work or some cacti?

IMO one ounce of chips will not be enough. You will need two ounces.

PM me if you want a cheap reliable source directly from Peru.


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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: Dr. Delban]
    #22247234 - 09/16/15 05:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It was san pedro I tried, and I got threshold effects at most.


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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: Achillita]
    #22247265 - 09/16/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It's possible that you will need at up to 1,000g of dried peruvian torch to get threshold effects.


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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: healing]
    #22247336 - 09/16/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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It's possible that you will need at up to 1,000g of dried peruvian torch to get threshold effects.




Most probably this isn't going to happen.

Which one is stronger then, San Pedro?


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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: Achillita]
    #22247339 - 09/16/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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It was san pedro I tried, and I got threshold effects at most.




How much did you use? Was it a water extraction? Wave you only boiled once or more?


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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: Achillita]
    #22247344 - 09/16/15 06:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

iF u have the money, get three ounces.

ive heard most dried chips off the net are weak.

I would recommend buying a couple feet of cuttings.  Pricey, but naturally more potent.


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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22247369 - 09/16/15 06:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The dried chips I used to get, I would use about 100g or more. Beware though as potency is widely variable.


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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22247398 - 09/16/15 06:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah last time I bought powdered San Pedro I did ethanol tar out of 100g and it felt great. Not too strong, not too weak, just perfect. I want to go deeper though.


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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22247402 - 09/16/15 06:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

At 100 dried grams, how strong was the experience?

Was it "i wanna hug that nice tree!" strong or "I wanna kiss the Sun on the face!" strong?


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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22247408 - 09/16/15 06:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:rofl:  :takingnotes:


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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22247414 - 09/16/15 06:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'd say somewhere in the middle ground


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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22247435 - 09/16/15 06:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

OP, if I were you, I would buy bridgesii cactus cuttings online, cut them up, throw the pieces in a dehydrator, then blend the pieces to powder. What you do with the powder is up to you, but I would brew it in a coffee machine a few times then put the juice in a pot on the stove and boil it down to a drinkable amount.


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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #22247456 - 09/16/15 06:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I'd say somewhere in the middle ground




Nice :yesnod:

As for Bill's suggestion, i would be afraid to lose potency from drying wet cacti chips then boiling the powder.

but never trieed it so cant say if it affects potency. Ive only done teas from fresh cuttings.


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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22247471 - 09/16/15 06:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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At 100 dried grams, how strong was the experience?

Was it "i wanna hug that nice tree!" strong or "I wanna kiss the Sun on the face!" strong?




Mine on 100g felt very euphoric. I dosed at around 2pm and stayed up all night, went to sleep after 11 AM the next day.

When peaking if I closed my eyes I was getting CEVs and I was hearing robotic sounds which were twisting my head and jaw.
My body was vibrating and trembling. I kept lying down on bed, then sitting up and watching concerts, interviews etc. then laying down again all night long.
I was hardly able to read text as it was moving. People's faces looked like they were taken from oil paintings. Human voices sounded bio-robotic. Curtains and walls breathing.
The best part of the trip was not the CEVs or OEVs but the way I felt inside my head, the state of my mind and the thought processes.


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Re: Dried Cactus dosage? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22247520 - 09/16/15 07:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I'd say somewhere in the middle ground




Nice :yesnod:

As for Bill's suggestion, i would be afraid to lose potency from drying wet cacti chips then boiling the powder.

but never trieed it so cant say if it affects potency. Ive only done teas from fresh cuttings.





Well I know the method works for mushrooms :shrug:

well don't boil it, more like a simmer


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