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Re: How hard is it to change oil in a car? [Re: rackem]
#22247009 - 09/16/15 05:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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rackem said: fuck that.
i do all my oil changes on a cold motor.
fuck dealing with hot engine oil.
and i dont want to hear your argument how the hotter the better it is for an oil change.
all you do is put a long extention on your wrench, lossen it just enough to get it going then run away for 30 mins
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Re: How hard is it to change oil in a car? [Re: HelpHub]
#22247016 - 09/16/15 05:09 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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HelpHub said: Do you actually own your own car!? Just lease, then who cares if the oil is changed?
NEVER buy anything that depreciates! 
yeah making payments for 3 years to drive a pretty car and having nothing to show for it when the lease is up is the way to do it
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Re: How hard is it to change oil in a car? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22247020 - 09/16/15 05:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It is so much more fun when it is 300 degrees.
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Re: How hard is it to change oil in a car? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22247027 - 09/16/15 05:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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even after working on cars professionaly for a damned decade, i still dont always get the drain plug out of the way in time.
that being said, fuck hot engine oil, its not needed to perform an oil change
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Re: How hard is it to change oil in a car? [Re: rackem]
#22247045 - 09/16/15 05:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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what? the oil comes out after a couple turns, they train you to take it all the way out cuss they want to work you over like mcdonalds to get to the next customer faster but on your own car that's not a problem. Once its stopped then you can take it all the way out just to make sure any thick sludge stuff at the bottom can get out but u won't have to worry about piss streams coming at you at that point
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Re: How hard is it to change oil in a car? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22247062 - 09/16/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah dude, even if i thought your advice made sense, no way in good god fucking hell would i ever spend thirty fucking minutes changing my oil.
your way works for you so be it.. i am not going to get into a debate about it.
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Re: How hard is it to change oil in a car? [Re: rackem]
#22247068 - 09/16/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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You just drain the oil into your ass, put the cap and oil filter back on and keep driving!
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Re: How hard is it to change oil in a car? [Re: rackem]
#22247074 - 09/16/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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well if you gunna change the oil you might as well do it right, and the right way is to warm it up so it all comes out, whats the point if you still got dirty oil all over the place?
When its all said and done your really only adding about 10 mintues to the job
if I was draining the oil cold then you'd want to spend more time draining it
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Re: How hard is it to change oil in a car? [Re: Niffla]
#22247080 - 09/16/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: Surprised I can even say this, but Maka is right. It's not advisable to put them on asphalt. Asphalt is not as solid/hard as concrete is. I mean the stuff is basically just gravel held together with tar. If you have to do it on asphalt, put some thick plywood under the stands at the minimum.
I won't work on a car on jack stands though. I'll only get under my car when it's up on the ramps. Only thing I use jack stands for are things like rotating the tires. I've had some sketchy shit happen over the years when the car wasn't up on the ramps. Many life flashing before my eyes moments. At least on the ramps, when it's centered right I know the car isn't going to do anything but roll away from me at the worst case scenario.
When I was young & mind numbingly retarded (I'm still stupid, just slightly less so), I was 16 and it was my first year of driving -- I had a flat and was changing my tire...put the car on a jack, and amazingly forgot to put the emergency brake on.
As soon as I got up from under the car -- the car slid off the jack. If it would've slipped a couple of seconds earlier it might have very well killed me.
I used to be mind numbingly retarded as well. When I first started working on our cars, I was just using a scissor jack, and to get enough room under it basically meant jacking it up until the jack couldn't go any higher. I put a brick behind the tire and put the emergency break on at least, but that doesn't stop side to side movement. Very first time I got under the car and torqued down on a bolt the car shifted sideways and the jack was actually leaning. By some fucking miracle it stopped short of the tipping point. So I learned my "lesson" and started using TWO jacks. Wasn't long before I discovered the error in my ways yet again.
Another time I jacked the car up and didn't care much about how stable it was because I mean I wasn't going to be underneath it, what's the worst that could happen. Well I damn near dropped the brake rotor on my foot, with the car still firmly attached to it. It's fun to think back to all the almost horrible accidents I had and scare the hell out of myself.
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Re: How hard is it to change oil in a car? [Re: Shroomslip]
#22247161 - 09/16/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: Surprised I can even say this, but Maka is right. It's not advisable to put them on asphalt. Asphalt is not as solid/hard as concrete is. I mean the stuff is basically just gravel held together with tar. If you have to do it on asphalt, put some thick plywood under the stands at the minimum.
I won't work on a car on jack stands though. I'll only get under my car when it's up on the ramps. Only thing I use jack stands for are things like rotating the tires. I've had some sketchy shit happen over the years when the car wasn't up on the ramps. Many life flashing before my eyes moments. At least on the ramps, when it's centered right I know the car isn't going to do anything but roll away from me at the worst case scenario.
When I was young & mind numbingly retarded (I'm still stupid, just slightly less so), I was 16 and it was my first year of driving -- I had a flat and was changing my tire...put the car on a jack, and amazingly forgot to put the emergency brake on.
As soon as I got up from under the car -- the car slid off the jack. If it would've slipped a couple of seconds earlier it might have very well killed me.
I used to be mind numbingly retarded as well. When I first started working on our cars, I was just using a scissor jack, and to get enough room under it basically meant jacking it up until the jack couldn't go any higher. I put a brick behind the tire and put the emergency break on at least, but that doesn't stop side to side movement. Very first time I got under the car and torqued down on a bolt the car shifted sideways and the jack was actually leaning. By some fucking miracle it stopped short of the tipping point. So I learned my "lesson" and started using TWO jacks. Wasn't long before I discovered the error in my ways yet again.
Another time I jacked the car up and didn't care much about how stable it was because I mean I wasn't going to be underneath it, what's the worst that could happen. Well I damn near dropped the brake rotor on my foot, with the car still firmly attached to it. It's fun to think back to all the almost horrible accidents I had and scare the hell out of myself.
Just reading that made me anxious
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Re: How hard is it to change oil in a car? [Re: Bigfeely123]
#22247168 - 09/16/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I used to have a car. I didn't know anything about changing oil either, and my timing belt went up in smoke (sort of). Then I had to sell my car.
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Re: How hard is it to change oil in a car? [Re: Bigfeely123]
#22247300 - 09/16/15 06:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Its impossible to change oil in a car. You have to get out of the car to do it.
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Re: How hard is it to change oil in a car? [Re: Shroomslip]
#22247912 - 09/16/15 08:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shroomslip said: Surprised I can even say this, but Maka is right. It's not advisable to put them on asphalt. Asphalt is not as solid/hard as concrete is. I mean the stuff is basically just gravel held together with tar. If you have to do it on asphalt, put some thick plywood under the stands at the minimum.
I won't work on a car on jack stands though. I'll only get under my car when it's up on the ramps. Only thing I use jack stands for are things like rotating the tires. I've had some sketchy shit happen over the years when the car wasn't up on the ramps. Many life flashing before my eyes moments. At least on the ramps, when it's centered right I know the car isn't going to do anything but roll away from me at the worst case scenario.
I understand it's uneven etc. but it will not sink in to hit your head! That's several inches! There is no way asphalt is letting my stands sink 6+ inches in and fast enough to crush me without my moving.
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Re: How hard is it to change oil in a car? [Re: Bigfeely123]
#22247926 - 09/16/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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$50 is steep for an oil change.
I'd gladly pay $30 and not have to fuck with it though.
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Re: How hard is it to change oil in a car? [Re: Detached]
#22247936 - 09/16/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I would have to pay $40 for the "high mileage" oil change. Otherwise the walmart (lol) near me does it for $20 I think
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Re: How hard is it to change oil in a car? [Re: The Moose]
#22247951 - 09/16/15 08:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It doesn't have to sink in far, all it has to do is sink on one side just far enough that it tips the jack stand and causes the car to come crashing down. You very well may not even notice it happening. I've nearly learned the hard way multiple times just how little things have to move to cause a car to fall.
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Re: How hard is it to change oil in a car? [Re: Shroomslip]
#22247960 - 09/16/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's different than just sinking in like he said.
And that's freaky having a car almost fall on you.
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Re: How hard is it to change oil in a car? [Re: The Moose]
#22248030 - 09/16/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sinking in is what would cause it to tip over. Generally weight is not going to be absolutely evenly distributed, so one side or one corner is going to be prone to sinking in and messing with the distribution even further. He never said it was going to sink in all the way until the car is on top of you. He just said it's prone to sinking and cracking, which is true. If one corner sinks in enough, that car is coming down faster than you can even realize what's happening, much less get out from under it, guaranteed.
And yes it's freaky nearly having a car fall on you. I've had it happen numerous times because I was an idiot back then. I still get a little nervous about having a car over me even on the ramps. Dying by being crushed would fucking suck. My family doesn't have the best of luck with working on cars. One of my great grandfathers died when a car exploded because he was welding on the gas tank that still had fumes/fuel in it (he didn't know, he was told it had been properly processed).
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Re: How hard is it to change oil in a car? [Re: makaveli8x8] 1
#22248197 - 09/16/15 09:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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see here, it is, the properties of oil make it actually flow better when it is cold. 5w-30 for example means it flows like water when it is cold, and actually gets thicker when it is warm.
only way you can actually truly get most of oil out of a car, is by vacuum.
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Re: How hard is it to change oil in a car? [Re: rackem]
#22248294 - 09/16/15 09:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I change it while warm, but had never actually considered that. No more wondering if it's gonna burn me when it comes shooting out.
Changing the oil is probably one of my least favorite common maintenance things to do. I can never do it without making a mess somehow. The last time I did it the cheap ass oil pan from autozone snapped right at the spout while pouring into an old oil bottle and about a quart went all over my front steps. This is after I vastly underestimated how strong the stream was going to be and missed the oil pan by nearly a foot and got a bunch all over my driveway. No matter how many times I do it, it's pretty much always the same story.
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