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tito123

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Tails won't boot
#22243676 - 09/15/15 10:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I updated to the new version of tails on my flashdrive(I can't remember what it's called) and now it won't run on my computer, but it will run on my friend's computer.
We're both running the same operating system and I think he updated too. Any idea on what the problem is and how I should fix it?
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Re: Tails won't boot [Re: tito123]
#22258962 - 09/19/15 04:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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tito123 said: I updated to the new version of tails on my flashdrive(I can't remember what it's called) and now it won't run on my computer, but it will run on my friend's computer.
We're both running the same operating system and I think he updated too. Any idea on what the problem is and how I should fix it?
Do you have a boot menu button you can spam (should see it on your motherboard splash screen, asus or whatever) spam that key and select the usb drive..... or go into bios and switch the boot order so that your flash drive comes before your hdd
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tito123

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If I read the first part correctly, that's what I've been doing to boot up tails. going to the boot menu and selecting usb drive.
and I already switched the boot order to have the flashdrive run before the hard drive.
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Re: Tails won't boot [Re: tito123]
#22261106 - 09/19/15 05:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Only other suggestion is to look for some shit called Secure Boot in BIOS, turn it off...
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Re: Tails won't boot [Re: tito123]
#22261842 - 09/19/15 08:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Did you try redoing the flash drive? Try it in your friends machine, try his in your machine.
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Re: Tails won't boot [Re: Sun King]
#22262016 - 09/19/15 08:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Does *anything* load? My first guess would be hardware; you could always try it on your friend's machine (or yours if you run another version of Linux) and try to grab some of the logs from /var/log (like dmesg for example)
Otherwise I'd probably need specifics as far as what is happening when it boots.
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Re: Tails won't boot [Re: micro]
#22266082 - 09/20/15 05:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Are you saying you can't get to the tails boot screen? Like your computer is skipping booting from USB? Or is the problem that tails is failing to properly load? What kind of machine are you trying to run tails on, laptop, desktop, brand, self built?
I've recently had issues with live disks booting, I was trying to boot a Fedora 22 live/install disk on a dell laptop. My Fedora live USB would boot on any computer accept the one I made it for... Turned out the problem was really stupid, the touchpad on the dell wasn't capable of two finger scrolling which was being loaded automatically, I removed that module and I was able to boot and install just fine.
I'm sure it's probably something silly and with a bit more info we can get it working if you haven't already
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If you have a UEFI bios then I'd try to make sure that anything related to Windows Secure Boot in there is turned off..... if it's just an oldschool bios w/o being able to use your touchpad etc., forget that comment...
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Mine touchpad defaulted back to a regular touchpad and i was able to use it, I only used that as an example of how little things can make a big difference in something booting or not, I didn't mean to suggest that was what OP's issue was, just something silly I've ran into. I had the exact same problem when installing F22 for someone on an older thinkpad, was a T500 core 2 duo... damn touchpads... lol
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luckytriple6 said: Are you saying you can't get to the tails boot screen? Like your computer is skipping booting from USB? Or is the problem that tails is failing to properly load? What kind of machine are you trying to run tails on, laptop, desktop, brand, self built?
I've recently had issues with live disks booting, I was trying to boot a Fedora 22 live/install disk on a dell laptop. My Fedora live USB would boot on any computer accept the one I made it for... Turned out the problem was really stupid, the touchpad on the dell wasn't capable of two finger scrolling which was being loaded automatically, I removed that module and I was able to boot and install just fine.
I'm sure it's probably something silly and with a bit more info we can get it working if you haven't already
After I click on usb, it briefly goes to a black screen, and then ubuntu starts running. It never goes to tails at all.
The laptop is an hp business laptop... or something. My friend who is more tech savvy than I am pulled up a list of computers that had problems running tails and I don't think mine was one of them.
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CosmicJoke said: Only other suggestion is to look for some shit called Secure Boot in BIOS, turn it off...
I'll try this later, although I think I already looked for this option. I can't remember if I found it or what I did though.
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Re: Tails won't boot [Re: tito123]
#22287787 - 09/25/15 10:20 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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tito123 said:
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luckytriple6 said: Are you saying you can't get to the tails boot screen? Like your computer is skipping booting from USB? Or is the problem that tails is failing to properly load? What kind of machine are you trying to run tails on, laptop, desktop, brand, self built?
I've recently had issues with live disks booting, I was trying to boot a Fedora 22 live/install disk on a dell laptop. My Fedora live USB would boot on any computer accept the one I made it for... Turned out the problem was really stupid, the touchpad on the dell wasn't capable of two finger scrolling which was being loaded automatically, I removed that module and I was able to boot and install just fine.
I'm sure it's probably something silly and with a bit more info we can get it working if you haven't already
After I click on usb, it briefly goes to a black screen, and then ubuntu starts running. It never goes to tails at all.
The laptop is an hp business laptop... or something. My friend who is more tech savvy than I am pulled up a list of computers that had problems running tails and I don't think mine was one of them.
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CosmicJoke said: Only other suggestion is to look for some shit called Secure Boot in BIOS, turn it off...
I'll try this later, although I think I already looked for this option. I can't remember if I found it or what I did though.
What model of hp is it, it's not an elitebook is it? I have an elitebook around I can test tails on later to see if it boots. I know mine has TPM and some other security features, it was literally a businesses laptop. I got it second(technically third) hand, it was the city of Rochester's in NY and it still had the business class tech support available to me when I bought it. A few times I had an HP service person come out and swap parts out of it that had died...
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It's an HP Compaq 6730b. Tails ran on it before my friend updated it.
My copy of tails will run on my friends laptop, and his copy will run on his, but neither copy will run on mine.
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Re: Tails won't boot [Re: tito123]
#22289381 - 09/25/15 05:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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tito123 said: It's an HP Compaq 6730b. Tails ran on it before my friend updated it.
My copy of tails will run on my friends laptop, and his copy will run on his, but neither copy will run on mine.
How was the tails bootable media(usb) made? Do you have any other live disks you can try booting with your laptop to make sure it can still boot from usb? Like maybe the older version of tails that you said worked, but any live disk should be fine... what version of tails are you trying to boot, 1.6?
I'm having some issues atm... my cracked windows was uncracked via windows update I'm guessing and I got a notice that I would have to pay for it... no way I'm paying for an OS I almost never use....
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There is already a newer version of tails out since OP, try that and let me know if you still have the same issues and let me know which release last worked
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Re: Tails won't boot [Re: tito123]
#22289515 - 09/25/15 05:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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tito123 said: It's an HP Compaq 6730b. Tails ran on it before my friend updated it.
My copy of tails will run on my friends laptop, and his copy will run on his, but neither copy will run on mine.
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tito123 said: It's an HP Compaq 6730b. Tails ran on it before my friend updated it.
My copy of tails will run on my friends laptop, and his copy will run on his, but neither copy will run on mine.
I happen to have an HP Compaq 6530b I can test on, making bootable media now with tails 1.6
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tails 1.6 booted right up on my 6530b, about to google for the differences between the 6730b and 6530b
I used linux live creator to make my bootable media btw, I'm gonna use the tails installer to see if there is any difference. I noticed in the release notes that some computers do not like the media created from the tails installer. I've had issues myself using yumi to create bootable tails disks but so far lili disks have worked out well
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media made with the tails installer skipped booting from usb on my 6530b, media made with linux live creator booted perfectly.
Weird thing though, second time I booted it(the linux live created disk) acted as if there was no wireless card, worked again after a reboot though.
My suggestion at this time is to try different methods of creating bootable media. off the top of my head I can think of yumi, rufus, linux live creator, and unetbootin. All work pretty close to the same way, select your flash drive, select your image, and create.
As I said in an earlier post I personally have had issues booting tails with yumi made disks and I read on tails site that some computer don't like the way the tails installer makes the disks, which I just experienced on a laptop very very close in model to yours
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