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LSDollar


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Truffles vs customs
#22243607 - 09/15/15 09:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I live in the states, ive had a pretty good site that has sent me truffles a total of 5 times now. Each time, it has had atleast 10 15G doses. Three of those times, they were 15 15G bags.
I ordered some, it normally has taken 7-10 days since it was shipped for it to be at my door, it has been 21 days now, has customs taken the package? I have had one from amsterdam that was seized about a year ago, it was not shrooms, it was some misc stuff, one item i remember was syrian rue.
Now, when that happened, the package did come to my house, with tape on it, about 3 months after I had ordered it, i was clueless, and it said items were seized because of unknown plant material ect.
Was labor day weekend a speed bump on the shipping? It normally sat in customs for about 1-2 days, but when a half lb of fresh truffles are coming, I am worried. Is this irrational? I have been thinking that the package is supposed to come the next day for two weeks now. No tracking on this one, I have done no tracking, and with tracking on different orders, with 100% success so far.
The packages vary in size. If its a 10 package load, its 1/2 thick, three inches wide, and 6 inches or so long.
The 15 package loads were 1/2 thick, 3 inches wide, and 8-10 inches long, say it has makeup products or something on it, and is worth 5$ usd.
Comes out costing me roughly 12-15$ per 15G bag after fees, transfer rate ect, its alot better than getting shitty cubes from people I live by that are less potent than the truffles, 3.5g of the cubes is like taking a 1.5g of regular shrooms. The 15G bags have varried, some very weak, some very strong. I took two 15g bags, and had a 4-5G equivilant trip, then taken the same strain, different time one bag seemed to almost equal 3.5g cubes, a good level 3 trip.
Edited by LSDollar (09/15/15 10:00 PM)
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champinhom
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Re: Truffles vs customs [Re: LSDollar]
#22243999 - 09/15/15 11:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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About the customs I know nothing.
Are these truffles dry or are they more or less still viable? If the latter, you could clone one to agar, spawn the agar to quart jars of rye berries and raise your own truffles. You would save thus a ton of moola.
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LSDollar


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They are fresh truffles, you are saying it is possible to grow them if i happen to get more?
I have never grown shrooms, and it has to be stealth, not using light ect.
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filthyknees
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Re: Truffles vs customs [Re: LSDollar]
#22244774 - 09/16/15 08:16 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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LSDollar


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I see. My problem is, i will have the already grown truffles, how do i get the spores ect into the grow? I have never done this, looked into it a couple times, but the sense it had to be under light, and VERY sterile always swayed me away from it.
I dont have a pressure cooker, but have a huge surplus in quart jars, i even have a couple jars that are fairly big, they held 2 oz of high grade weed, which has all went up in smoke .
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filthyknees
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Re: Truffles vs customs [Re: LSDollar]
#22245048 - 09/16/15 09:41 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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this isn't the hardest but there are a few steps, I'll try to outline it but do your own homework on it if you plan to succeed (it's fairly easy). I do sterile work in an old basement and stones don't need light so there goes ur excuse. 
you use a still air box, with proper sterile procedure ((very important)research*), break open a good looking stone with your gloved finger nails, flame your scalpel until it glows, cool the scalpel in the receiving petri dish one time, then with the scalpel remove tissue from the middle of the stone and move it quickly onto an agar plate. That will grow out in about five days, enough to make transfers to other plates (1st transfer from tissue). We transfer one time (at least) from tissue and spores to be sure the growth is looking clean. The 1st transfer plate will take about a week to grow out enough to take wedges from it to start a grain jars. Once you have sterilized, properly hydrated, grain jars with gas exchange filters use your still air box to move wedges of clean growth from the 1st transfer plate into the grain jars being very swift and as sterile as possible, throw the lid on, tighten the band, and shake the jar so the wedge settles somewhere visible in the middle-ish of the jar. Some people use pint jars because they colonize quickly when using agar wedges(less grain in them).
You'll want to do trials to spread your risk. IE: (1) Take tissue from four different stones to four different plates (2) make three transfers (very small piece) from the leading growth of EACH of the four plates. (3) Take three wedges from each of the twelve plates you will have grown
At the end of a few weeks if (IF) everything goes smoothly you should be looking at 36 grain jars with agar wedges. Those will take about three weeks to colonize 100%, when shaken once at ~30% colonization. When they are 100% you can break up the myc inside and (using your still air box) transfer each quart to twelve more, using grain to grain transfers. Basically moves about a tablespoon of colonized grain into receiving jars to start them.
if all 36 agar to grain jars succeed, and they are grain to grained to twelve jars each that would be 432 quart jars. An alternative is to expand to bags. Don't worry about yield just yet, it will be enough just get started. Get a PC (big all american).
if you don't successfully grow your own after I typed all that I swear 
-------------------- But if you're in a hurry, and really got to go If you're in a hurry, might have to find out slow That it's one thing to try and another to fly You get there quicker just a step at a time It's one thing to bark, another to bite The show ain't over till you pack up at night
Edited by filthyknees (09/16/15 09:47 AM)
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Achillita
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Growing truffles is pretty easy. I know for a single quart jar, I'll usually get 100-120 grams. I've gotten slightly higher, but it seems like 100 grams is pretty minimum.
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Re: Truffles vs customs [Re: Achillita]
#22245183 - 09/16/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I will have to look into this a bit more, but that post did help me. Ill have to look some stuff up, exactly what plates, the inside of the truffles, grow then you take some of that growth and put onto more plates, and eventually into grow jars, then take the truffles that do grow and take. I do not want ALOT of jars, I am thinking roughly 5-10 jars max, and see how it goes once i figure it out.
I will try to do one jar first, see if it works for me.
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champinhom
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Quote:
filthyknees said: this isn't the hardest but there are a few steps, I'll try to outline it but do your own homework on it if you plan to succeed (it's fairly easy). I do sterile work in an old basement and stones don't need light so there goes ur excuse. 
you use a still air box, with proper sterile procedure ((very important)research*), break open a good looking stone with your gloved finger nails, flame your scalpel until it glows, cool the scalpel in the receiving petri dish one time, then with the scalpel remove tissue from the middle of the stone and move it quickly onto an agar plate. That will grow out in about five days, enough to make transfers to other plates (1st transfer from tissue). We transfer one time (at least) from tissue and spores to be sure the growth is looking clean. The 1st transfer plate will take about a week to grow out enough to take wedges from it to start a grain jars. Once you have sterilized, properly hydrated, grain jars with gas exchange filters use your still air box to move wedges of clean growth from the 1st transfer plate into the grain jars being very swift and as sterile as possible, throw the lid on, tighten the band, and shake the jar so the wedge settles somewhere visible in the middle-ish of the jar. Some people use pint jars because they colonize quickly when using agar wedges(less grain in them).
You'll want to do trials to spread your risk. IE: (1) Take tissue from four different stones to four different plates (2) make three transfers (very small piece) from the leading growth of EACH of the four plates. (3) Take three wedges from each of the twelve plates you will have grown
At the end of a few weeks if (IF) everything goes smoothly you should be looking at 36 grain jars with agar wedges. Those will take about three weeks to colonize 100%, when shaken once at ~30% colonization. When they are 100% you can break up the myc inside and (using your still air box) transfer each quart to twelve more, using grain to grain transfers. Basically moves about a tablespoon of colonized grain into receiving jars to start them.
if all 36 agar to grain jars succeed, and they are grain to grained to twelve jars each that would be 432 quart jars. An alternative is to expand to bags. Don't worry about yield just yet, it will be enough just get started. Get a PC (big all american).
if you don't successfully grow your own after I typed all that I swear 

Great post!
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champinhom
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Re: Truffles vs customs [Re: LSDollar]
#22248012 - 09/16/15 08:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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mirraco said:
I will try to do one jar first, see if it works for me.
Nah, do two. One of them might contaminate but if the other comes through, then you have your truffles and the knowledge that you can grow more anytime. If you do only one and it comtaminates, you will probably decide truffle growing is too hard, you will give up, forget all you have learned, and go back to being somebody's cash cow again.
-------------------- My father used to say: I don't care what else you do in life, just don't be an asshole. People, forgive me when I forget what my daddy said. Cut back the proliferating list of people whose opinions can hurt you. Unless they have done or want to do you some good, their views are just not worth tracking. Saul Bellow “People are just cannibals unless they leave each other alone.” Doris Lessing Those whom the gods would save, they dower with compassion. Mr. P. Silocybin
Edited by champinhom (09/16/15 08:38 PM)
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LSDollar


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So ill do two jars then, it won't be for a couple weeks before i actually start, in the winter time, it gets fairly cold in my room, i would say 60 degrees, when its really cold out, i would say close to 50-55 I do run a heater when I am sleeping when its colder out, but not when i am not in the room, would it be too cold to do any of this?
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Re: Truffles vs customs [Re: LSDollar]
#22248960 - 09/17/15 12:03 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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IT'll still grow fine, although it might take a bit longer.
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