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Penis Envy Dubtub Unfamiliar Growth w/ pics (noob)
    #22242922 - 09/15/15 07:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I would first like to thank the shroomery and all of the contributions made by its members, i have read on the site for a few years now and with the knowledge I've gained one successful grow of cakes has come to fruition.

and without further ado, regarding the subsequent dubtub that I built, here is my first post about a grow (a.k.a. concern):

Starting by letting 4 half pint jars of popcorn each inoculated with 1mL of a MS PE syringe (thehawkseye) reach 100% colonization, I waited 4 more days to assure healthy growth. (jars were shaken at ~40-60%)

8-20-15
The 4 jars were spawned into only coir(+gypsum) [prepared with a 5-gallon bucket+boiling water] which was allowed to cool before I mixed in the popcorn in a ~1:2 ratio, giving me about 3" of substrate. The surface was then covered with foil that never actually touched the sub.


8-30-15
After incubating in the GC @ 86ºF for 10 days, the foil was removed and the surface appeared to be at 90-95% colonization. At this point it was out of the GC and now subject to fruiting conditions.

9-6-15
The first of what my understanding of what Hyphal Knots are started to appear.

9-9-15
First Pins appear.

9-11-15
First pronounced mushroom head in the morning followed by several more in the evening.

9-15-15, Today

THE FIRST HEADS TO APPEAR STARTED SHOWING BLUING, AND NOW THE DOMINANT GROWTHS LOOK SO WEIRD TO ME!!!
I'm not sure if its just that Im new to the hobby, or using just coir was the wrong idea but someone please give me some advice.



The misting was done just a couple hours prior to this, as I was concerned it was getting too dry in there. It is not condensation.


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Re: Penis Envy Dubtub Unfamiliar Growth w/ pics (noob) [Re: MaroonNgoldGrow]
    #22242950 - 09/15/15 07:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You good, don't worry about the blue on top of pins


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Re: Penis Envy Dubtub Unfamiliar Growth w/ pics (noob) [Re: Nobler Hino]
    #22242985 - 09/15/15 07:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

that doesnt look right to me at all


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Re: Penis Envy Dubtub Unfamiliar Growth w/ pics (noob) [Re: aerow.thefox]
    #22242987 - 09/15/15 07:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

you need tc advice i dont even know what im looking at


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Re: Penis Envy Dubtub Unfamiliar Growth w/ pics (noob) [Re: aerow.thefox]
    #22243001 - 09/15/15 07:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Looks like blobs to me... if I'm not mistaken, they are pretty common amongst the PE variety.


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Re: Penis Envy Dubtub Unfamiliar Growth w/ pics (noob) [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22243052 - 09/15/15 07:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

On the first cake i ever did (a birthed, flat, sandwich-sized container) i lost the whole thing to dehydration after not checking on it for 48 hours when i went out of town, in which case the entire substrate began to turn blue and never recovered. I was hoping i could mist it to help remedy that, if that IS the case that is. :shineoff:


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Re: Penis Envy Dubtub Unfamiliar Growth w/ pics (noob) [Re: MaroonNgoldGrow]
    #22243100 - 09/15/15 08:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You got the bonus mutant flush that every PE comes with!

Can we see a picture without the lid? The lid foggy-ness makes it look way worse than it is I think.

Also try a couple picks with flash. Or with extra light directly on the surface.

Mutant blobs often lead as the first flush with Penis-Envy. This could be totally normal pending better pictures.


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Re: Penis Envy Dubtub Unfamiliar Growth w/ pics (noob) [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #22243209 - 09/15/15 08:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

never heard the blob term. but pe mutants make sense. my only guess wouldve been rosecomb


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Re: Penis Envy Dubtub Unfamiliar Growth w/ pics (noob) [Re: aerow.thefox]
    #22243256 - 09/15/15 08:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I cannot imagine eating one of those blobs fresh.. hear theyre soo potent but they look soooo gross


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Re: Penis Envy Dubtub Unfamiliar Growth w/ pics (noob) [Re: aerow.thefox]
    #22243337 - 09/15/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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aerow.thefox said:
never heard the blob term. but pe mutants make sense. my only guess wouldve been rosecomb




Blob = mutant. I wish I had a picture of the sub without the lid so it was clearer. The colors are muddled in the current data.


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Re: Penis Envy Dubtub Unfamiliar Growth w/ pics (noob) [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #22243350 - 09/15/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I take that back. A blob and a mutant I would consider different.

A mutant resembles a mushroom.

A blob is a random mess of genetic information that looks nothing like a textbook mushroom, even remotely.

But mutation leads to blobs.


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Re: Penis Envy Dubtub Unfamiliar Growth w/ pics (noob) [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #22243446 - 09/15/15 09:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

elasticaltiger said:
I take that back. A blob and a mutant I would consider different.

A mutant resembles a mushroom.

A blob is a random mess of genetic information that looks nothing like a textbook mushroom, even remotely.



Im glad you came you your senses

Quote:

But mutation leads to blobs.




I got the MS syringe from thehawkseye, so it is possible that a strain i received was over isolated or something of sorts (possibly by someone with different growing techniques who never encountered this??)

in any case:



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Re: Penis Envy Dubtub Unfamiliar Growth w/ pics (noob) [Re: MaroonNgoldGrow]
    #22243474 - 09/15/15 09:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Do you have Reishi mycelium anywhere in the house?

This is a serious question.


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No Pouring. No Syringes. No Cutting. No flaming. No Contamination. No Bullshit.

"The best thing to do while your waiting is to start more stuff. I usually got so much happening that I have tossed projects simply because I didn't have time for them. -Pastywhite QFT

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Re: Penis Envy Dubtub Unfamiliar Growth w/ pics (noob) [Re: elasticaltiger]
    #22243481 - 09/15/15 09:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

not in the slightest, no one here even eats them


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Re: Penis Envy Dubtub Unfamiliar Growth w/ pics (noob) [Re: MaroonNgoldGrow]
    #22243677 - 09/15/15 10:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I wouldn't sweat it too much. Next time consolidate and case your PE. Don't incubate either. 86 is way too hot. You might have encountered some bacterial growth with those high Temps.  Bacteria can cause a sub to look like that but it will still flush as long as it isn't weakened to the point that mold can take over.


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Re: Penis Envy Dubtub Unfamiliar Growth w/ pics (noob) [Re: MudaFuka]
    #22250391 - 09/17/15 10:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)


:shitmypants:trip report coming soon: 28.4 g fresh


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Re: Penis Envy Dubtub Unfamiliar Growth w/ pics (noob) [Re: MaroonNgoldGrow]
    #22250600 - 09/17/15 11:08 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The sub is looking a little dry... you're misting 1-2 times a day?


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Re: Penis Envy Dubtub Unfamiliar Growth w/ pics (noob) [Re: DeTwizzle]
    #22261072 - 09/19/15 04:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

nope, no misting just dunking between flushes

i plan to use a casing for the next flush as PE tends to form these blobs commonly without one apparently.


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Re: Penis Envy Dubtub Unfamiliar Growth w/ pics (noob) [Re: MaroonNgoldGrow]
    #22261268 - 09/19/15 05:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

They are definitely just blobs as a previous poster mentioned. Every single time I've done grown PE I've gotten these blobs in abundance. They are VERY potent!!! Your second and 3rd flush if you go for a third will look like normal fruits. So be happy and feel accomplished. Success is awesome


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Re: Penis Envy Dubtub Unfamiliar Growth w/ pics (noob) [Re: RKellyPvpdonme]
    #22263733 - 09/20/15 08:01 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I appreciate the input RKelly, especially from a relatively new member as myself. This is one of my first real grows moving forward from cakes and i can't deny that i was shocked when i first realized the fruits i was getting were these deformed things i'd never seen.

furthermore, you could imagine my surprize when me and a buddy SPLIT 30 g wet blobs and EACH had level three trips, possibly touching level four.

All in all, its a hobby of pleasantries so i call them pleasant surprises in heinsight :biggrin:


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Re: Penis Envy Dubtub Unfamiliar Growth w/ pics (noob) [Re: MaroonNgoldGrow]
    #22315287 - 09/30/15 05:22 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I'm actually not a new member, It's just been a couple years since I've been on here and I forgot my old login info. But yea, get used to surprises both pleasant and not so pleasant. I  recommend  for you to keep reading a TON! And divulge in other teks and different things such as making Liquid Cultures, your own spore prints, trays, tubs and everything you read that interest you. I had tons of success with everything I tried which got me hooked to this amazing hobby. I'm actually now using popcorn rather than WBS for the first time and am super stoked for the new experience. It's a great hobby, tons of fun and you will continuously learn more new and awesome things Have fun and welcome to the carnival! If you have any questions feel free to send me a private message.


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Re: Penis Envy Dubtub Unfamiliar Growth w/ pics (noob) [Re: RKellyPvpdonme]
    #22315362 - 09/30/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I would steer away from LCs....they definitely do not speed anything up, and they are contamination prone.


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Re: Penis Envy Dubtub Unfamiliar Growth w/ pics (noob) [Re: PussyFart]
    #22316262 - 09/30/15 08:48 PM (8 years, 3 months ago)

I suppose everyone has they're own experiences. The LC's I have made always produced awesome results and colonized pretty quickly. I used the baby bottle tek with Karo Syrup and water. Was super fun to watch the progress of the Mycelium in the bottle too.


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