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Would lsd have ever become popular without the mind fuck?
    #22242062 - 09/15/15 04:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

From both the mystical intellectual and colorful, to the more scary aspects of mind fuck ( like being delusional, I heard my mom's voice call the house phone where I was at begging them not to call the police, turns out she never called).

Like if this random drug from a Swiss lab just caused an excited euphoria and pretty colors and shapes, would it still be popular as a party drug or would the existence of mushrooms and mdmaand over stuff make it obsolete?

The mind space on lsd is unique just like with other psychedelics. Is that what has allowed lsd to rise to fame in your estimation?


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That makes the heart's eye cry
Locked deep away in the skies of our minds

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Re: Would lsd have ever become popular without the mind fuck? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #22242072 - 09/15/15 04:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i am the wizard of all parallel universes and i say no.

The world would be a completely different place. trust me.


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Re: Would lsd have ever become popular without the mind fuck? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #22244902 - 09/16/15 08:57 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I would have to say one aspect that draws me to lsd is that energy that seemingly moves though all things.

Also I don't think things happen by accident, like I won't say for good/bad reason but SOME reason. So when I think of why humans cannot use echolocation it's seems because we have senses developed for our needs and to echolocate is not one of them.

BUT with these powerful visions that lsd can bring, I am left wondering WHY we are able to perceive these extraordinary things. For what REASON?

that is maybe the most interesting, beyond simply enjoying, thing about lsd to me.

I suppose the answer is different for everyone even at different times.  :psychsplit:


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Re: Would lsd have ever become popular without the mind fuck? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #22245224 - 09/16/15 10:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think the mind fuck is crucial to making LSD what it was/is.

Part of what people love about it is the sheer insanity it's capable of bringing -- and if you take that away, it's just simply not the same or anywhere even close.


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Re: Would lsd have ever become popular without the mind fuck? [Re: Niffla]
    #22245431 - 09/16/15 11:13 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Agreed, it's part of the experience. But I'd consider LSD to be pretty popular. During points were there was tons of supply, it was used quite commonly.


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Re: Would lsd have ever become popular without the mind fuck? [Re: Achillita]
    #22245555 - 09/16/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

One of the main things that made it popular in the 60s was the fact that one chemist could make millions of doses.

Some people act like LSD was this great discovery or something that unlocked new levels of consciousness. THis always puzzled me because the parts of the mind that can be accessed with LSD can also be accessed through mushrooms, LSA, mescaline and DMT which already existed.

But what made LSD special to american consciousness was the ease of production and distribution. Making and transporting a million doses of mescaline is a lot more difficult than LSD.


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Re: Would lsd have ever become popular without the mind fuck? [Re: Peyote Road]
    #22245653 - 09/16/15 11:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I think it wouldve and still would be popular, but it wanted have shifted the conciousness and started the counter-culture movement like it did.

People really dont understand how influential LSD was in bringing us to where we are today in regards to accepting authority, etc.


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Re: Would lsd have ever become popular without the mind fuck? [Re: EnemaOfState]
    #22245718 - 09/16/15 12:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Lsd would suck without the headspace. The headspace is the most important part.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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Re: Would lsd have ever become popular without the mind fuck? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #22246255 - 09/16/15 02:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

This and the longevity the drug provides allows you to go deeper with less urgency than say magic mushrooms, or 2cx compounds. In my opinion.

When I eat a bit of acid I feel fantastic far after the drugs effects have worn off.


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Re: Would lsd have ever become popular without the mind fuck? [Re: MagicalOrangutan]
    #22247394 - 09/16/15 06:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So your questions is "does lsd's mind fuck make it so popular?".

LSD has a lot of  positives for it. First, easy to hide. Second, VERY easy to ingest. Third, easy to transport. Forth, trip lasts about 12 hours total (including the mild tripping comedown).

and the experience is so unique, not even mescaline compares to it.

I would argue that LSD is the most popular substance on the Boards right now.

One of the best part of LSD is its so versitle. You can have a recreational "party" experience with a lower dose and the right set/setting.

Want a spiritual experience? Up the dosage to 100 micros or higher and be in the right set and setting (like in a peaceful forest in the summer time with good vibes on your mind) and u can have a spiritual experience.

I dont really like the term "mind fuck" because its just part of the experience and is too general to really describe what its like. its not always a bad thing. i prefer "mind bending" or "being twisted" myself.


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Re: Would lsd have ever become popular without the mind fuck? [Re: wigglewak]
    #22247615 - 09/16/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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This and the longevity the drug provides allows you to go deeper with less urgency than say magic mushrooms, or 2cx compounds. In my opinion.

When I eat a bit of acid I feel fantastic far after the drugs effects have worn off.




But mescaline lasts even longer in my experience and you can increase mushroom trip length with higher doses, redosing or MAOIs. Usually when I eat 5 or more gram of mushroom, I trip for a good 9-10 hours. Thats long enough for me.


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Re: Would lsd have ever become popular without the mind fuck? [Re: Peyote Road]
    #22248393 - 09/16/15 09:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

My last mescaline dose must have been huge, reality was still melting at 20hrs when I finally went to sleep. Several hours are blacked out. leaves me very docile, content sitting and doing nothing, hard to move. Should be gardening and bottling.

I never get to score LSD. Pure meth is everywhere, $100 for a tenth of a gram, fucking crap murders the wallet.


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Re: Would lsd have ever become popular without the mind fuck? [Re: Peyote Road]
    #22248452 - 09/16/15 09:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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wigglewak said:
This and the longevity the drug provides allows you to go deeper with less urgency than say magic mushrooms, or 2cx compounds. In my opinion.

When I eat a bit of acid I feel fantastic far after the drugs effects have worn off.




But mescaline lasts even longer in my experience and you can increase mushroom trip length with higher doses, redosing or MAOIs. Usually when I eat 5 or more gram of mushroom, I trip for a good 9-10 hours. Thats long enough for me.





Hmm I guess I meant to say how the drug peaks out it allows me time to get what I want from the trip. DOB type drugs last even longer but those are not on my list of drugs I would do again. The afterglow and feelings after I take LSD make it worth it, like I can integrate what positive things I remember from it into my life easier than other drugs I have done.

I haven't tried mescaline so I can't comment on that however.


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