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Preparing for a possible global catastrophe
#22241415 - 09/15/15 01:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Honey bee populations, responsible for most of human food crops, are plummeting.
Mass die offs of fish, birds and animals are becoming increasingly common.
Enormous methane beds on the ocean floor are beginning to vent, which could cause a global extinction.
Ocean life is dying off at exponential rates, most commercial fish stocks are gone.
Deforestation has reached epic levels, compromising Earths oxygen cycle.
Climate change and global warming are reaching tipping point levels, perhaps triggering an out of control feedback loop.
Ocean levels are predicted to rise, and the majority of humanity lives on the coast, potentially triggering an unprecedented refugee crisis.
Impacts from asteroids threaten the Earth on a daily basis, as does super volcano eruption, which is due and could happen at any time (Yellowstone).
The ozone layer has been compromised, and earth is more vulnerable to a solar mass ejection or super flare that could knock out global power, including the cooling systems of nuclear power plants.
A global pandemic is inevitable.
Population explosion is unsustainable, inevitably threatening food crisis, water crisis etc.
Potable water is becoming more scarce. Water wars and chronic water scarcity looms on the horizon.
These are only a few of the indicators that should make us concerned that a potential global catastrophe, or set of catastrophes, is increasingly likely and fundamentally inevitable.
Therefore, preparation is warranted.
I have spent years preparing as best as I can, now I am beginning a new cycle of preperation.
What am I doing today?
Packing and organizing my various bug out bags full of concentrated essential survival supplies.
Filling hundreds of litres of reverse osmosis water in 18.9 litre jugs.
Stockpiling hundreds of meals of freeze dried food with a 20 year shelf life.
Stocking up on canned goods, medicines, drugs, weapons, ammunition, breathing masks and respirators, candles, firewood, matches, lighters, antibiotics topical and oral, knives, axes, latex gloves, work gloves, rain gear, camping gear, batteries, flash lights, radio, hygiene products, hand sanitizer, sunscreen, bug repellant...
Everything required to survive in as many potential scenarios as possible, from being stuck in a city while food and water and electricity systems break down, to surviving in the wilderness.
I have built redundant survival stockpiles, one in my home, one in my car, so that if I am out of the house in my car when shit hits the fan I am ready to survive anywhere, or if I am trapped at home I am likewise prepared.
Stockpiling non GMO heirloom vegetable seeds, cannabis seeds, building long term sustainability infrastructure-
Long term- solar panels, rainwater tanks, xeriscaped and permacultured food gardens, food trees, compost, green house and ultimately subteranean survival bunker.
If you can't afford to do much, just get the basics:












And a bonus tip: Get a glass of red wine and add a tsp of turmeric powder. Drink this daily.
Its a tonic for modern times.
What else can you do?
Prepare, and also travel and enjoy life, while we still can. So much beauty remains in the world, enjoy every second of it, but prepare for the changes that are already upon us.
When everyone else starts to prepare, its already too late.
The only chance to prepare is now, while most people are still oblivious to the urgency of this crisis.
Meditate. Find inner peace. Spend time with your family and friends.
Spend your life giving love, to yourself and those who are close to you. Love yourself, your life, your family, your friends, the earth, every second of your life, love every inhalation and every exhalation, every beat of your heart, every rising and setting of the sun and the moon.
Namaste.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
#22241419 - 09/15/15 01:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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So negative bro.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
#22241464 - 09/15/15 01:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think the idea of having a bug out bag is a good one. I think some people take disaster prep to the extreme, compromising their ability to enjoy life in the now. But if you're just stocking your car or your home with a bag or two, well, that's just plain sensible.
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OP, I've had similar ideas. However, my preparations never materialized. I felt that the effort was perhaps better spent on living a productive daily life while that is still possible. In other words, in my case serious preparations would take over my life in a way that I do not desire.
I did like the ending of you post very much. At least I stick to that part
Oh, and I think you forgot to mention some disasters, ... eehm, lethal galactic gamma-ray bursts? ... there's more. Anyone? What else?
In the end (pun not intended) I do respect your effort very much. Keep it up, keep us informed!
Love, Hanz.
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Moonshoe
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: r.lutece]
#22241475 - 09/15/15 01:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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A bug out bag in your home and a second in your car, plus jugs of drinking water and plenty of unperishable food and at least one firearm with ammunition as well as antibiotics, firewood, warm weather and rain clothes, water purification ,flashlight, batteries etc- this is a bare minimum for anyone.
If you have a family or wife or kids who depend on you, you owe it to them to at least prepare this much.





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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe] 1
#22241530 - 09/15/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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none of this is going to happen even remotely in our young lives. i'll be three fourths down the line before anything becomes close to a reality.
and i'll be ready for death anyways by then. i'm not going to trudge through some human wasteland to say that i did. and to whom, some beggar, or some other effluvium of abandon?
what would be the point.
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Moonshoe
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#22241546 - 09/15/15 02:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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On what basis do you say this won't happen soon, even tomorrow, in a week or in a month or a year?
Two years? Five?
I, like you, hope that none of this will occur during my life, but unlike you I do not delude myself that it is not extremely possible it could happen very soon, and in many ways, is happening already.
Just finished compiling my home bug out bag. Now have a complete one in my car and my house.
I recommend you all do the same. It is far, far better to have it and not need it, then to need it and not have it.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
#22241550 - 09/15/15 02:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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the basis that slippery-slope-type thinking is hardly ever the reality.
if things aren't already shit, then what's your basis for thinking it'll be so bad in the future that you'll have to abandon society and "bug-out" in the woods somewhere?
don't care to struggle with anyone else? you think they'll rob you of your supplies?
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
#22241561 - 09/15/15 02:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dude you totally left out the Fukushima Apocalypse.
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Moonshoe
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: akira_akuma]
#22241568 - 09/15/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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All I am saying is we do not know the future and a disaster could come without warning. This has happened countless times throughout history and it would be foolish to think it won't happen again. It will.
it is always better to be prepared then to be unprepared and stocking up on essential supplies is one of the most responsible ways to use any extra money.
Global events 2015
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
#22241570 - 09/15/15 02:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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same if you stayed put, no? horrible shit, some, and then awesome shit as well. plus around people i could receive possibly their help. alone, there is no help. i think working together would best working solo, personally.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
#22241579 - 09/15/15 02:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Downloading all my favorite porn now.
Not gonna catch me unprepared!
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
#22241631 - 09/15/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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With that incompetent goof still in the white house, disaster could come any day. Not in the form of rising seas or lack of food but in the form of idiot starting a war with Russia or china. He is now "warning" Russia against defying obumble's ban on shipments to Syria. Putin is warning him back to mind his own business.
Warming will take decades and centuries to come about same as sea level rising. It will happen, too many idiots have screwed things up. But nukes are fast destruction, that is the big worry.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
#22241644 - 09/15/15 02:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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im already prepared for zombie apocalypse. i have a truck like that to gather scrap metal. i would Pimp it like that
make holes to fire guns that i have to hunt. with my familly i would go from supermarket to supermarket getting food shootin zombies. I CANT WAIT
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe] 4
#22241648 - 09/15/15 02:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pack a pistol and one bullet for the global catastrophe.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Sun King]
#22241694 - 09/15/15 02:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The Pacific Northwest is getting ready for the tsunami/Cascadia Event.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
#22241749 - 09/15/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Moonshoe said: Honey bee populations, responsible for most of human food crops, are plummeting.
Mass die offs of fish, birds and animals are becoming increasingly common.
Enormous methane beds on the ocean floor are beginning to vent, which could cause a global extinction.
Ocean life is dying off at exponential rates, most commercial fish stocks are gone.
Deforestation has reached epic levels, compromising Earths oxygen cycle.
Climate change and global warming are reaching tipping point levels, perhaps triggering an out of control feedback loop.
Ocean levels are predicted to rise, and the majority of humanity lives on the coast, potentially triggering an unprecedented refugee crisis.
Impacts from asteroids threaten the Earth on a daily basis, as does super volcano eruption, which is due and could happen at any time (Yellowstone).
The ozone layer has been compromised, and earth is more vulnerable to a solar mass ejection or super flare that could knock out global power, including the cooling systems of nuclear power plants.
A global pandemic is inevitable.
Population explosion is unsustainable, inevitably threatening food crisis, water crisis etc.
Potable water is becoming more scarce. Water wars and chronic water scarcity looms on the horizon.
These are only a few of the indicators that should make us concerned that a potential global catastrophe, or set of catastrophes, is increasingly likely and fundamentally inevitable.
Therefore, preparation is warranted.
I have spent years preparing as best as I can, now I am beginning a new cycle of preperation.
What am I doing today?
Packing and organizing my various bug out bags full of concentrated essential survival supplies.
Filling hundreds of litres of reverse osmosis water in 18.9 litre jugs.
Stockpiling hundreds of meals of freeze dried food with a 20 year shelf life.
Stocking up on canned goods, medicines, drugs, weapons, ammunition, breathing masks and respirators, candles, firewood, matches, lighters, antibiotics topical and oral, knives, axes, latex gloves, work gloves, rain gear, camping gear, batteries, flash lights, radio, hygiene products, hand sanitizer, sunscreen, bug repellant...
Everything required to survive in as many potential scenarios as possible, from being stuck in a city while food and water and electricity systems break down, to surviving in the wilderness.
I have built redundant survival stockpiles, one in my home, one in my car, so that if I am out of the house in my car when shit hits the fan I am ready to survive anywhere, or if I am trapped at home I am likewise prepared.
Stockpiling non GMO heirloom vegetable seeds, cannabis seeds, building long term sustainability infrastructure-
Long term- solar panels, rainwater tanks, xeriscaped and permacultured food gardens, food trees, compost, green house and ultimately subteranean survival bunker.
If you can't afford to do much, just get the basics:












And a bonus tip: Get a glass of red wine and add a tsp of turmeric powder. Drink this daily.
Its a tonic for modern times.
What else can you do?
Prepare, and also travel and enjoy life, while we still can. So much beauty remains in the world, enjoy every second of it, but prepare for the changes that are already upon us.
When everyone else starts to prepare, its already too late.
The only chance to prepare is now, while most people are still oblivious to the urgency of this crisis.
Meditate. Find inner peace. Spend time with your family and friends.
Spend your life giving love, to yourself and those who are close to you. Love yourself, your life, your family, your friends, the earth, every second of your life, love every inhalation and every exhalation, every beat of your heart, every rising and setting of the sun and the moon.
Namaste.

I still have all the ppe from the fukushima apocalypse... What happen there bruh? I feel cheated.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Kinko]
#22241789 - 09/15/15 03:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Gonna need a bigger bag.

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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Kinko]
#22241844 - 09/15/15 03:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Part of the ongoing saga.
Survival and preparation work is good for the soul. When you start getting back to basics, reconnecting with the fundamentals, taking stock of the worst the world can throw at you and doing your best to rise to the challenge, you feel like you are waking up from a dream. You feel like you are being a man.
When we live in denial we feel weak and depressed. When we face reality and snap out of the fugue of modern malaise, apathy, cynicism and defeatist helplessness, we feel invigorated. Our ancestors knew how hard life was and how hard they had to struggle to survive.
One way or another, we are going to remember that.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
#22241866 - 09/15/15 03:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The financial catastrophe will hit before the physical one. The only chance of an ecological disaster hitting in the next couple years is if stupid politicians bring it about.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Stonehenge]
#22241876 - 09/15/15 03:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Not true. An ecological disaster is already well underway. Multiple, cascading, overlapping ecological disasters-
Deforestation, mass extinction, biodiversity loss, ocean acidification, climate change, global warming, drought, desertification, waste and pollution, toxic waste, radiation releases, methane leakages, ozone depletion, over population, over consumption.
We are currently in the midst of the Earth's sixth mass extinction. 200 species go extinct every day.
We are in the middle of the greatest ecological crisis since the extinction of the dinosaurs.
AND (another) financial crisis could occur any day.
Prepare dear friends.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
#22241918 - 09/15/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Moon, you missed the point by a mile. We have already discussed many times the state of global warming, pollution, deforestation etc. No one is disputing that but its simply not the same as another world war and not the same as an economic collapse. Nuke war would be worse and would happen fast, not in decades or centuries but in days. An economic collapse means no jobs, govt is broke and paying people with counterfeit money that becomes worth less and less. None of those things are good but near future is more important than distant future unless you think sea levels will rise a foot a month or something.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
#22242013 - 09/15/15 04:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've been preparing for the apocalypse since grade 9. I have a decent bug out bag complete with military grade knives/machetes, painkillers, prescription anti biotics, I should even have some iodine pills in case of radiation. I've been looking at hand held Geiger counters and some real dandy pocket snares.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
#22242022 - 09/15/15 04:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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It looks similar to a Y2K kit. About that...
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Zombi3]
#22242033 - 09/15/15 04:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Zombi3 said: I've been preparing for the apocalypse since grade 9. I have a decent bug out bag complete with military grade knives/machetes, painkillers, prescription anti biotics, I should even have some iodine pills in case of radiation. I've been looking at hand held Geiger counters and some real dandy pocket snares.
There won't be any untouched areas in the event of nuclear war. Russia has something like 2000 warheads in the 50mt range. One alone would wipe the greater new York area off the map
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#22242059 - 09/15/15 04:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Underground bruh
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Stonehenge]
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I don't miss that point at all. I prepare for all those possibilities, environmental, economic, military, political, social, natural, artificial- all very possible, very dangerous risks.
All mostly require the same kind of preparation.
@Zombi3: Cool bro good to know a few other preppers on the shroomery!
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
#22242147 - 09/15/15 04:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Moonshoe said: Honey bee populations, responsible for most of human food crops, are plummeting.
Mass die offs of fish, birds and animals are becoming increasingly common.
Enormous methane beds on the ocean floor are beginning to vent, which could cause a global extinction.
Ocean life is dying off at exponential rates, most commercial fish stocks are gone.
Deforestation has reached epic levels, compromising Earths oxygen cycle.
Climate change and global warming are reaching tipping point levels, perhaps triggering an out of control feedback loop.
Ocean levels are predicted to rise, and the majority of humanity lives on the coast, potentially triggering an unprecedented refugee crisis.
Impacts from asteroids threaten the Earth on a daily basis, as does super volcano eruption, which is due and could happen at any time (Yellowstone).
The ozone layer has been compromised, and earth is more vulnerable to a solar mass ejection or super flare that could knock out global power, including the cooling systems of nuclear power plants.
A global pandemic is inevitable.
Population explosion is unsustainable, inevitably threatening food crisis, water crisis etc.
Potable water is becoming more scarce. Water wars and chronic water scarcity looms on the horizon.
These are only a few of the indicators that should make us concerned that a potential global catastrophe, or set of catastrophes, is increasingly likely and fundamentally inevitable.
Therefore, preparation is warranted.
I have spent years preparing as best as I can, now I am beginning a new cycle of preperation.
What am I doing today?
Packing and organizing my various bug out bags full of concentrated essential survival supplies.
Filling hundreds of litres of reverse osmosis water in 18.9 litre jugs.
Stockpiling hundreds of meals of freeze dried food with a 20 year shelf life.
Stocking up on canned goods, medicines, drugs, weapons, ammunition, breathing masks and respirators, candles, firewood, matches, lighters, antibiotics topical and oral, knives, axes, latex gloves, work gloves, rain gear, camping gear, batteries, flash lights, radio, hygiene products, hand sanitizer, sunscreen, bug repellant...
Everything required to survive in as many potential scenarios as possible, from being stuck in a city while food and water and electricity systems break down, to surviving in the wilderness.
I have built redundant survival stockpiles, one in my home, one in my car, so that if I am out of the house in my car when shit hits the fan I am ready to survive anywhere, or if I am trapped at home I am likewise prepared.
Stockpiling non GMO heirloom vegetable seeds, cannabis seeds, building long term sustainability infrastructure-
Long term- solar panels, rainwater tanks, xeriscaped and permacultured food gardens, food trees, compost, green house and ultimately subteranean survival bunker.
If you can't afford to do much, just get the basics:












And a bonus tip: Get a glass of red wine and add a tsp of turmeric powder. Drink this daily.
Its a tonic for modern times.
What else can you do?
Prepare, and also travel and enjoy life, while we still can. So much beauty remains in the world, enjoy every second of it, but prepare for the changes that are already upon us.
When everyone else starts to prepare, its already too late.
The only chance to prepare is now, while most people are still oblivious to the urgency of this crisis.
Meditate. Find inner peace. Spend time with your family and friends.
Spend your life giving love, to yourself and those who are close to you. Love yourself, your life, your family, your friends, the earth, every second of your life, love every inhalation and every exhalation, every beat of your heart, every rising and setting of the sun and the moon.
Namaste.

moonshoe...
from one canadian to another...
I'm to lazy to go to the impressive effort you have, and even though I do agree it will happen in my lifetime, I can't be bothered
So that being said...could you put me up for a few months if shit hits the fan? 
I will bring my guitars and gear so I can serenade you and keep you human with fine arts 
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
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Jean-guy Masta said: im already prepared for zombie apocalypse. i have a truck like that to gather scrap metal. i would Pimp it like that
make holes to fire guns that i have to hunt. with my familly i would go from supermarket to supermarket getting food shootin zombies. I CANT WAIT 
What will you do for gasoline?
Remember: Gas pumps dont work without electricity.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Masked] 4
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Who would even want to live on Earth under circumstances like that? Not me! I'll take the 1st major catastrophic episode & check out early. Hell, I was lucky making it to my 60s. I've lived a very adventurous life & was amazed to see age 61. Not a problem checking out now.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: squidhead] 1
#22242407 - 09/15/15 05:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I need to stock up on jerry cans full of gasoline!
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
#22242434 - 09/15/15 05:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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We have two bug out bags. One in the car, one in the house. I'm sure we would be fine for a few weeks maybe 2 or 3 months. Ammo is so fucking heavy to carry a ton of it.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
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one hypodermic syringe.
500 mg of dmt- fumerate
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Salomon]
#22242466 - 09/15/15 05:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Given the nature of each "preppers" online persona, I predict all of them to be dead within 3 weeks of global calamity. The majority would likely die during it.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Anyone with diabetes and shit...good luck!
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Even with extensive preparation survival will be highly uncertain, but without any preperation death is virtually guaranteed.
How strange that having a few weeks of food and water put up has become eccentric and rare.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: SoupSandwich]
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Jean-guy Masta said: im already prepared for zombie apocalypse. i have a truck like that to gather scrap metal. i would Pimp it like that
make holes to fire guns that i have to hunt. with my familly i would go from supermarket to supermarket getting food shootin zombies. I CANT WAIT 
What will you do for gasoline?
Remember: Gas pumps dont work without electricity.
i would steal a gaz truck and one of my brother would drive it ,or i would go steal gaz in big tanks any place that have trucks have those fuel tanks to fuel trucks, open the valve on the tank with a pipe rench and fill containers. I even have 1000L containers its like a big plastic tub for chemicals , i just fill up one or 2 and im good for a while i fit like 12 of those in my truck. next thing you know im on the road again shootin zombies
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
#22242717 - 09/15/15 06:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you do any camping, fishing or hunting then you've already got most of the stuff you need. Except the radiation pills and whatnot. Shelter isn't hard, fishing isn't hard, trapping and foraging aren't hard. It would likely be the skin sloughing off your body from radiation that would get you.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Adden]
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The most important thing is enormous amounts of freeze dried food And jugs of drinking water.
You should have at least 1000 freeze dried meals Per person as well as no less then 100 litres of water each and a water purification system.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
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Moonshoe said: Honey bee populations, responsible for most of human food crops, are plummeting.
Mass die offs of fish, birds and animals are becoming increasingly common.
Enormous methane beds on the ocean floor are beginning to vent, which could cause a global extinction.
Ocean life is dying off at exponential rates, most commercial fish stocks are gone.
Deforestation has reached epic levels, compromising Earths oxygen cycle.
Climate change and global warming are reaching tipping point levels, perhaps triggering an out of control feedback loop.
Ocean levels are predicted to rise, and the majority of humanity lives on the coast, potentially triggering an unprecedented refugee crisis.
Impacts from asteroids threaten the Earth on a daily basis, as does super volcano eruption, which is due and could happen at any time (Yellowstone).
The ozone layer has been compromised, and earth is more vulnerable to a solar mass ejection or super flare that could knock out global power, including the cooling systems of nuclear power plants.
A global pandemic is inevitable.
Population explosion is unsustainable, inevitably threatening food crisis, water crisis etc.
Potable water is becoming more scarce. Water wars and chronic water scarcity looms on the horizon.
These are only a few of the indicators that should make us concerned that a potential global catastrophe, or set of catastrophes, is increasingly likely and fundamentally inevitable.
Therefore, preparation is warranted.
I have spent years preparing as best as I can, now I am beginning a new cycle of preperation.
What am I doing today?
Packing and organizing my various bug out bags full of concentrated essential survival supplies.
Filling hundreds of litres of reverse osmosis water in 18.9 litre jugs.
Stockpiling hundreds of meals of freeze dried food with a 20 year shelf life.
Stocking up on canned goods, medicines, drugs, weapons, ammunition, breathing masks and respirators, candles, firewood, matches, lighters, antibiotics topical and oral, knives, axes, latex gloves, work gloves, rain gear, camping gear, batteries, flash lights, radio, hygiene products, hand sanitizer, sunscreen, bug repellant...
Everything required to survive in as many potential scenarios as possible, from being stuck in a city while food and water and electricity systems break down, to surviving in the wilderness.
I have built redundant survival stockpiles, one in my home, one in my car, so that if I am out of the house in my car when shit hits the fan I am ready to survive anywhere, or if I am trapped at home I am likewise prepared.
Stockpiling non GMO heirloom vegetable seeds, cannabis seeds, building long term sustainability infrastructure-
Long term- solar panels, rainwater tanks, xeriscaped and permacultured food gardens, food trees, compost, green house and ultimately subteranean survival bunker.
If you can't afford to do much, just get the basics:












And a bonus tip: Get a glass of red wine and add a tsp of turmeric powder. Drink this daily.
Its a tonic for modern times.
What else can you do?
Prepare, and also travel and enjoy life, while we still can. So much beauty remains in the world, enjoy every second of it, but prepare for the changes that are already upon us.
When everyone else starts to prepare, its already too late.
The only chance to prepare is now, while most people are still oblivious to the urgency of this crisis.
Meditate. Find inner peace. Spend time with your family and friends.
Spend your life giving love, to yourself and those who are close to you. Love yourself, your life, your family, your friends, the earth, every second of your life, love every inhalation and every exhalation, every beat of your heart, every rising and setting of the sun and the moon.
Namaste.

I didn't read the post but honestly all that stuff just seems like a waste of time. Dude we live in Canada the biggest catastrophe here is like a big snowstorm.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Bitter Cactus]
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i think people can easily fall in the over prepared slot too easily..
at some juncture your either going to find a way to sustain off the land you have or you are not.. i dont care how many god damned jars of pasta you have.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: rackem]
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Will people please quit quoting that long ass first post?
The trouble with all that is I have nowhere to go that is safe. There are woods within driving distance but in a catastrophe, everyone will be on the road so no one makes any progress and even if you got to the woods, it would be wall to wall people. If you live out in a rural state like Nevada, Arizona, parts of other states or anywhere in canada then you can do that and live off the land. I'll just stock up the fridge and freezer and call it a day.
I always get hypnotized by dys' sig.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Stonehenge]
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i think you are selling yourself short on that escape plan, but i dont know your exact location.. i firmly believe there is always a way out unless you live in orange county.. then you are fucked.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: rackem]
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Roads are jammed all the time now. I laugh when they say they might have to order an evacuation. Everyone on the road and one guy whose car breaks down = long parking lot. I'd rather be at home if a big storm hits than in my car on the road, parked with nowhere to go.
>unless you live in orange county.. then you are fucked.
Lots of areas will be fucked. What good will your jugs of water and tins of food do you out in the woods? Will the zombies not think to look for you there? Will you hunt deer and rabbit? lol. i'll be home enjoying the shower, electricity, food and computer.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
#22242964 - 09/15/15 07:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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SoupSandwich said:
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Jean-guy Masta said: im already prepared for zombie apocalypse. i have a truck like that to gather scrap metal. i would Pimp it like that
make holes to fire guns that i have to hunt. with my familly i would go from supermarket to supermarket getting food shootin zombies. I CANT WAIT 
What will you do for gasoline?
Remember: Gas pumps dont work without electricity.
i would steal a gaz truck and one of my brother would drive it ,or i would go steal gaz in big tanks any place that have trucks have those fuel tanks to fuel trucks, open the valve on the tank with a pipe rench and fill containers. I even have 1000L containers its like a big plastic tub for chemicals , i just fill up one or 2 and im good for a while i fit like 12 of those in my truck. next thing you know im on the road again shootin zombies 
LOL, sorry to tell ya brotha but even if you got a friggin gas tanker gasoline goes bad! You'd be set for a few months to a year though! HTH.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: SoupSandwich]
#22242992 - 09/15/15 07:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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A nice house in the middle of nowhere with a big basement..
Lots of guns, ammo, food and water stocked up - at LEAST 20 years worth of food/water to survive off of.
Solar panels to generate electricity.
An electric car, and a way to charge it using solar power (since gas will go bad.)
Spare parts for the car.
Lots of heirloom seeds and gardening gear.
Radios, lots of batteries.
And don't forget medical supplies, plus medicine, and stockpiles of useful herbs.
That's just a start of where I would like to be..
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: SoupSandwich]
#22242994 - 09/15/15 07:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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gasoline deteriorates but it never loses it's capability to run a motor. It would take hundreds of years to leave it completely non-effective
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Masked]
#22243109 - 09/15/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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i could just join one of the raving gangs that are loaded with guns, and help steal shit from preppers, and like be the resident meth cook or whatevers
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Masked]
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Masked said: gasoline deteriorates but it never loses it's capability to run a motor. It would take hundreds of years to leave it completely non-effective
Thats not truth. Google some truth.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: SoupSandwich]
#22243159 - 09/15/15 08:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Living in fear with these survival kids is a sad and lonely way to live IMO.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
#22243206 - 09/15/15 08:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I also see any number of things happening very soon possibly beginning with the almost inevitable crash sometime in the next few weeks. I just wish i had the kind of expendable income you must have to prep as extensively as you have. Not saying Im completely unprepared but I'm not sitting as pretty as you are my friend. AND IM UNFORTUNATELY IN THE USA where things are about to be way worse with our GOV trying to turn communist and control everything. To all who wear the blinders and refuse to open their eyes to truth I give my condolences in advance and i hope you die first so you dont have to endure the pain of watching helplessly as your children and family die in front of you. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/images/icons/heart.gif http://www.shroomery.org/forums/images/icons/peace.gif
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: SoupSandwich]
#22244721 - 09/16/15 07:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Op, you have great gear and supplies, but what about actual plans. Different scenarios require different responses. Some of the gear will be dead weight in some scenarios but essential in others.
Do you somehow categorize catastrophes? What categories do you distinguish, and what different kinds of responses are you planning for each?
You will most likely always have to improvise to some degree, but actual planning ahead as good as you can for different scenarios seems just as important as having all your supplies and survival gear.
So, if you agree, please let's hear some examples. Name some different scenarios that require different responses, and how you plan for their contingencies.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
#22244725 - 09/16/15 07:55 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Being prepared is good but I don't understand people who constantly fantasize about this kind of stuff.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: nicechrisman]
#22244861 - 09/16/15 08:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't fantasize I research the current risks and warning signs and prepare. Being prepared is not living in fear it's actually an enormous source of comfort and relieves anxiety greatly.
Having these supplies is never a waste they come in handy all the time in day to day life or when fishing , hiking or camping.
Disaster can easily strike anywhere bitter cactus Canada is not immune to catastrophe and the harsh winter means we need to do more preperation not less as a power outage in winter instantly becomes a life and death struggle.
The global system is precarious and under threat from a hundred sources. The right event and the whole thing can collapse like a house of cards, for now it is easy to stock up at a grocery store but once news gets out there will be a chaotic rush on supplies and in 12 hours there will be nothing left or will cost ten times more.
Smart people prepare before bad shit happens not after.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
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Moonshoe said: Canada is not immune to catastrophe and the harsh winter means we need to do more preperation not less as a power outage in winter instantly becomes a life and death struggle.
Bitter Cactus is gonna be a Bitter Icicle if the power goes out for a month lol
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
#22244896 - 09/16/15 08:55 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do you rotate out your equipment? Like if your tackle is getting old in a bug out bag, do you throw it in your hiking backpack or something? When your rations are about to expire do you take them camping? Etc.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe] 2
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Moonshoe said: Honey bee populations, responsible for most of human food crops, are plummeting.
that's absolutely wrong, they've increased over the last 5 years to higher than they were prior to the colony collapse bullshit
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Mass die offs of fish, birds and animals are becoming increasingly common.
no, you're just hearing about them more because of the fear mongering and easy access of information now
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Enormous methane beds on the ocean floor are beginning to vent, which could cause a global extinction.
it's always been happening
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Ocean life is dying off at exponential rates, most commercial fish stocks are gone.
no, just more fear mongering by liberals for liberals
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Deforestation has reached epic levels, compromising Earths oxygen cycle.
once more, bullshit. there are more trees today than there was 50 years ago and the trees are not the major oxygen producer on this planet
you've got a whole pile of luke warm bullshit, you just keep on gobbling it up, live in fear if you want, I'd suggest you actually do a little reading on these topics, I know you wont so there's no point, if shit doesnt align with your paranoia and beliefs they you arent interested in hearing it
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And a bonus tip: Get a glass of red wine and add a tsp of turmeric powder. Drink this daily.
hahaha.. it's more effective to stuff whole lemons up your ass
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Prisoner#1]
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... and turmeric would surely fuck up the wine.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
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Moonshoe said: Honey bee populations, responsible for most of human food crops, are plummeting.
that's absolutely wrong, they've increased over the last 5 years to higher than they were prior to the colony collapse bullshit
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Mass die offs of fish, birds and animals are becoming increasingly common.
no, you're just hearing about them more because of the fear mongering and easy access of information now
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Enormous methane beds on the ocean floor are beginning to vent, which could cause a global extinction.
it's always been happening
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Ocean life is dying off at exponential rates, most commercial fish stocks are gone.
no, just more fear mongering by liberals for liberals
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Deforestation has reached epic levels, compromising Earths oxygen cycle.
once more, bullshit. there are more trees today than there was 50 years ago and the trees are not the major oxygen producer on this planet
you've got a whole pile of luke warm bullshit, you just keep on gobbling it up, live in fear if you want, I'd suggest you actually do a little reading on these topics, I know you wont so there's no point, if shit doesnt align with your paranoia and beliefs they you arent interested in hearing it
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And a bonus tip: Get a glass of red wine and add a tsp of turmeric powder. Drink this daily.
hahaha.. it's more effective to stuff whole lemons up your ass
Paid government shill.
Whatevs. Haters gonna hate.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Pris, you know I agree with you when you are right but about half of your rant here is correct and the rest is... bullshit. The oceans are indeed acidifying and losing not just coral reefs but also the fish populations are under great pressure. Even sharks are becoming more scarce. You may not care about your health but turmeric is a great herb and eating right is one of the keys to good health. But rant on, I can neither convince the right nor the left of anything since everyone is so firm in their opinions.
My catastrophe plan is to have physical gold and silver in the bank, plenty of food in the fridge and freezer, and a new car in the driveway. Also plenty to toke on, plenty of other goodies too. I'm set.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Stonehenge]
#22244970 - 09/16/15 09:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The big problem is everyone divides ideas by either left or right. Ideas are just ideas. Best to keep an open mind rather than immediately labeling and disregarding ones that might rustle the jimmies of your cognitive dissonance
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: nicechrisman]
#22245109 - 09/16/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Still, no actual, concrete plans for different scenarios from Moonshoe.
Are you preparing, or are you just hoarding survival gear and mistaking that for having plans?
E.g, the military doesn't prepare for contingencies just by hoarding weapons, and then feeling safer. They have actual scenarios ready for different events, and specifically plan along those lines. That's what I imagine anyway...
My only point is, no single bag can prepare you for all catastrophes.
However, if it simply makes you feel safe, then perhaps the psychological component is more important than the practical?
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I can't stand doomsdayers. Shit is so annoying, people so unhappy and bored with life they google any reason that confirms their own desire for everything to collapse so that life can be cool and interesting. It's sad really, a cry for help even
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Hanz]
#22245548 - 09/16/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes I have plans for different catastrophes , developed over years. Do you?
Prisoner1 I have done extremely extensive research on these topics. I wrote my graduate masters thesis on the global environmental crisis. Very few people have done more research on these issues then I have.
I hope you are right about some of what you say, sadly I know you are wrong about most of it.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Almond Flour]
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Almond Flour said: I can't stand doomsdayers. Shit is so annoying, people so unhappy and bored with life they google any reason that confirms their own desire for everything to collapse so that life can be cool and interesting. It's sad really, a cry for help even
I agree with this.
I think it is a sad, lonely, depressing way to live constantly being in fear like that.
If a catastrophe happens I will die. Some stupid survival kit isn't gonna do anything but either way I am confident nothing bad will happen. Call me naiive but when you end up dying of old age you are gonna know I was right and you were just being paranoid Moonshoe.
Nothing is gonna happen bro the only thing that could happen in Canada is that the snow comes two weeks early! You are wasting your time.
I just wanna say that on the flip side, for a world population of 7 billion I think our society has actually done a great job and I think the outlook is gonna get even better. I think there will be a point where technology actually cuts down pollution and our society becomes more efficient and less wasteful.
You are such a negative nancy Moonshoe!
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
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Moonshoe said: Yes I have plans for different catastrophes , developed over years.
Prisoner1 I have done extremely extensive research on these topics. I wrote my graduate masters thesis on the global environmental crisis. Very few people have done more research on these issues then I have.
I hope you are right about some of what you say, sadly I know you are wrong about most of it.
none of this shit though is an "Earth killer". it's all stuff that can be solved. with all the stuff you know about this stuff, then you should be figuring out solutions right? but there are other people already doing that, as you should probably already know.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: akira_akuma]
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Moonshoe acts like Canada is this big warzone with volcanos erupting and acid rain falling from the sky.
The biggest environmental catastrophe I have experienced here is people littering their cigarette buds all over the walking path!! Like geeze, stop doing that guys!
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Bitter Cactus]
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yeah, litter to the extreme. it's sad.
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I stopped throwing my cigarettes out of my car window or in public places a long time ago. I think it's terrible even though the cotton and whatnot will degrade. You're not throwing burning pitch out of your window but you may as well start a forest fire while you're at it.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Bitter Cactus]
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Being prepared does not mean living in fear. Preparing does not mean you are afraid. In fact it means you feel calm, confident and secure that you are ready for anything and can then continue to enjoy your life knowing you have done the right thing for you and your loved ones.
Fear has nothing to do with it. Its about wisdom, foresight, logic, responsibility, self reliance, self sufficiency, competence, strength, discipline, awareness and capacity.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: akira_akuma]
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The threats to our global ecosphere are of existential magnitude and threaten human civilization as we know it as well as the majority of living species on earth. Many other threats such as an asteroid could also be planet killers. At the very least pervasive disasters and catastrophes are inevitable and already occurring.
It is better to be prepared then unprepared.
This simple fact is the whole truth of the matter. No rationalization or weak excuse will ever change this ironclad fact.
Canada is not impervious to natural disasters of cataclysmic events and it is only your legendary naïveté that leads you to adopt such a foolish complacency, bitter cactus.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
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I don't see why having a bug-out bag or escape plan or disaster plan is bad. I can understand people going over the top with it.
We keep 5 grand cash, some fractional gold and silver, first aid kit and epi-pen, flares and the like. I need to go back through it and refresh some freeze dried food and water purification tablets. Some knives and two firearms with ammo. I mean, you never know. I like double checking it when we move to a new place. It doesn't hurt to have code words with a spouse or family member for "gtfo" or "I'm in danger" for when you can't say them out loud. Freak accidents happen.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
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if a planet killer strikes us, wtf are you gonna do about it? 
well, look, good for you, you'll live in the end of the world for awhile. YAY!
i would give a fuck, i mean, it's the end of the world. we all die...what's the point of waiting when the world is over...plus, i'll survive too, for awhile...just like you...maybe not as long, but...for some time at least, and that's good enough.
and catastrophe's and disasters happen all the time, it does mean that anyone ever has ever had to bug out because of one and leave civilization. no.
and ecothreats are...well they aren't the end of the world, it's maybe a pervasive change, but it's nothing that "ends the world" as we know it, it may "change the world" as we know it, but it doesn't "end it".
the only thing i could think of that's a potential "ender" of civilization is nuclear war, which again...world's dead, who cares... what should i try and be one of the few who survive to somehow "re-stabilize" civilization and mate and like start it over again anew, and i'd feel like good about myself and live like Walden with my new family, back in pre-Christian times and happy again? that's quite a fairy tale.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: akira_akuma]
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I would say the odds of Moonshoe needing his survival kit for anything other then a camping trip is like one in a trillion.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Bitter Cactus]
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I bet the people caught in the wildfires, the Utah floods, Syrian refugees or even as far back as Katrina victims would benefit from bug out bags.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Adden]
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but that isn't "global catastrophe".
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Bitter Cactus]
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I use my survival gear all the time. And yes I also use it for camping, and day to day life, and o have it ready for a catastrophe. The likelihood of a local disaster is significant but unknowable. The odds of a global catastrophe are 100%, the only question is when it will occur.
Everything in my stockpile is useful for day to day life, so none of it is wasted even if a disaster does not occur.
I recommend everyone listen to the two podcasts with Randall Carlson on Joe Rogan's Podcast, and listen to what Randall Carlson has to say.
You will learn a lot.
Most people know virtually nothing about the history of the planet, if you did you would realize that catastrophes on a global scale are frequent and inevitable.
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Yeah in mutually assured destruction nothing is really going to save you.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
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Most people know virtually nothing about the history of the planet, if you did you would realize that catastrophes on a global scale are frequent and inevitable.
and yet you feel like you can avoid it. lol
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
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Moonshoe said: I use my survival gear all the time. And yes I also use it for camping, and day to day life, and o have it ready for a catastrophe. The likelihood of a local disaster is significant but unknowable. The odds of a global catastrophe are 100%, the only question is when it will occur.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Bitter Cactus]
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If anything actually were to happen, the odds of your survival kit actually saving you or being of use is like zero percent lol
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Bitter Cactus]
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He is going out into the wilderness with his kit to hunt moose, build a shelter, cut firewood, and so on. This will save him. Disaster will only strike those in the cities.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Stonehenge]
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Moon; Have you considered getting an RV?
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
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Moonshoe said: I use my survival gear all the time. And yes I also use it for camping, and day to day life, and o have it ready for a catastrophe. The likelihood of a local disaster is significant but unknowable. The odds of a global catastrophe are 100%, the only question is when it will occur.
Everything in my stockpile is useful for day to day life, so none of it is wasted even if a disaster does not occur.
I recommend everyone listen to the two podcasts with Randall Carlson on Joe Rogan's Podcast, and listen to what Randall Carlson has to say.
You will learn a lot.
Most people know virtually nothing about the history of the planet, if you did you would realize that catastrophes on a global scale are frequent and inevitable.
huh...you have piqued my interest. I will look into it further
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
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My preparation is a stash of LSD and a cyanide capsule.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: nicechrisman]
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nicechrisman said: My preparation is a stash of LSD and a cyanide capsule.
Just don't get stoned and mix the two up.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Stonehenge]
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Interesting thread. I remember hearing before something along the lines of, "think of the earth as an organism, think of it as similar to your body. What does your body do when it is under attack from a virus or bacteria? It flushes it's system and heats up trying to kill said parasite. We are the virus"
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Mescalean]
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Oh, I forgot, I would definitely buy about 4 extra pairs of glasses! 
And extra tighty-whiteys.
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Usually this kind of thinking eventuates from alienating yourself from the culture and encountering only stupid people, thus you come to the conclusion that the world is incredibly uninformed and stupid and doesn't know issues are looming.
There's mass protests all over the planet going on today, everyone wants change.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
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Sounds like a whole load of doomsday negativity... as the bunkers all collect dust..
Forget all the trinkets and learn how to bow hunt and other survival skills... Me, I'll just party at the end and go down in flames...not that there will be an end.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Oeric McKenna] 1
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Natural disasters and catastrophes happen continuosally all over the world , financial collapses , global events, wars, famine, draught, plague, things foreseen and unforeseen.
In virtually all such circumstances preparation will make an enormous difference both to your quality of life and chance of survival.
If something interrupted food supplies or food prices skyrocketed, I would be able to eat well while many starve or go break buying overpriced food.
If the water supply is contaminated or cut off I would have lots to drink for a long time while others would be In a potentially lethal dehydration in mere days.
If I needed to survive in the woods or on the road I could.
If there was a riot or home invasion I could defend home and family.
I am prepared for an abrupt cut off off of water, food, electricity and supplies.
If someone gets sick o have courses of antibiotics that can save their lives.
I can clean and tend and bandage a wound. I can treat various conditions with medicines.
I can keep my hands sterilize and purify water and stay in my home avoiding the greatest risk from a pandemic disease.
If it came to it I could survive in my home without any external access to supplies in relative comfort for a year.
If there was a massive economic collapse I could feed and care for my family even if I lost my job.
I have enough stockpiled to survive for a year and enough gardening supplies fruit trees and seeds to create my own sustainable food.
I also train my body and mind to increase my odds of survival.
I am as prepared as I can be for a major crisis local or global and my prelerations would dramatically improve my survival chances in many or most circumstances.
I could survive in place or I could load my car and evacuate anywhere in a matter of 1-2 hours.
I could protect myself in a wilderness or an urban environment.
And even if nothing happens I will save money and convenience by having all the necessities of daily life stockpiled .
I am prepared for power outage, food supply collapse, water system collapse, extreme weather events, financial depression , unemployment etc etc.
Whatever happens my family will have food to eat , all the necessities of life and the weapons to defend them.
This to me is part of being a man- the ability to provide for and defend your family even in a worst case scenario.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
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If there is a global catastrophe that astronomical and everything goes to shit, why would you want to live anymore?
I'd say a gun and a few bullets should be good for me, but I really don't think that kind of shit is ever going to happen in our lifetimes.
I do believe that climate change and global warming due to CO2 emissions is going to affect the world eventually...but I really doubt there is going to be some global catastrophe or super volcano eruption anytime soon
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: sh4d0ws]
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Up until not so long ago, and in most places in the world in fact still, all people stored foods and the like to help them get through winter and potential calamities.
The situation most of you are in, that you only have food in the house for three days, is entirely artificial and is as dependent on the exact functioning of the infrastructure of society as a baby who relies on his mothers breasts for milk.
You dont have food in the house. No drink other than alcohol. You only have a few days of money in your direct possession, the rest is with the bank. You rely on electricity, natural gas, water mains, your car, on that your local stores will be supplied every day.
God helps those who help themselves. You don't have to live in fear for this:
...to simply take some common sense precautions. Its the mature thing to do.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
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Moonshoe said: Natural disasters and catastrophes happen continuosally all over the world , financial collapses , global events, wars, famine, draught, plague, things foreseen and unforeseen.
In virtually all such circumstances preparation will make an enormous difference both to your quality of life and chance of survival.
If something interrupted food supplies or food prices skyrocketed, I would be able to eat well while many starve or go break buying overpriced food.
If the water supply is contaminated or cut off I would have lots to drink for a long time while others would be In a potentially lethal dehydration in mere days.
If I needed to survive in the woods or on the road I could.
If there was a riot or home invasion I could defend home and family.
I am prepared for an abrupt cut off off of water, food, electricity and supplies.
If someone gets sick o have courses of antibiotics that can save their lives.
I can clean and tend and bandage a wound. I can treat various conditions with medicines.
I can keep my hands sterilize and purify water and stay in my home avoiding the greatest risk from a pandemic disease.
If it came to it I could survive in my home without any external access to supplies in relative comfort for a year.
If there was a massive economic collapse I could feed and care for my family even if I lost my job.
I have enough stockpiled to survive for a year and enough gardening supplies fruit trees and seeds to create my own sustainable food.
I also train my body and mind to increase my odds of survival.
I am as prepared as I can be for a major crisis local or global and my prelerations would dramatically improve my survival chances in many or most circumstances.
I could survive in place or I could load my car and evacuate anywhere in a matter of 1-2 hours.
I could protect myself in a wilderness or an urban environment.
And even if nothing happens I will save money and convenience by having all the necessities of daily life stockpiled .
I am prepared for power outage, food supply collapse, water system collapse, extreme weather events, financial depression , unemployment etc etc.
Whatever happens my family will have food to eat , all the necessities of life and the weapons to defend them.
This to me is part of being a man- the ability to provide for and defend your family even in a worst case scenario.

I am with the guy that said I would rather party at the end of the world then be a little pussy in a bunker with matches and life jackets.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
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Didn't even read the entire op, but it's all part of the rapture. It's all part of the process to eradicate evil. Once the human population is extinct, no more evil will be around. Humans are very evil beings.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: occollegeboi]
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And besides, when the world does end, I think I would rather just DIE then to be in it while it's happening.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: occollegeboi]
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occollegeboi You seem unhappy. What gives?
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Asante]
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the best thing to have when your planet is facing a global extinction event is a first aid kit.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22251353 - 09/17/15 01:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm with bitter cactus. global catastrophe bring people together and break social barrios. Ill be dancing in the streets.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
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Cowb0yNeal00 said: I'm with bitter cactus. global catastrophe bring people together and break social barrios. Ill be dancing in the streets. 
Anyone who thinks a survival kit will do anything during a real global catastrophe is kidding themselves.
Moonshoe acts like our society is all bad and volcanos are erupting and we are shooting nuclear missles at each other every day.
I actually think we do a great job at what we do. We have 7 billion people on this earth and overall we coexist peacefully. There are some wars going on in under developped nations, but I think over time when they start to become more developed that will improve to.
Overall, I think the outlook is good and I think Moonshoe acts like it is really bad but that is simply not the case.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Bitter Cactus]
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Mad respect moonshoe, and thank you for sharing your prep information.
I don't really have the means for a full prep, however, my family and myself have some basic precautions we took..just in case.
so far, we've tapped an underground stream for water, have quite a few MRE's and other non-perishable food in storage, a generator/solar panels, firearms/ammo, medicine and non GMO seed...several survival guides, first aid books, and plant identification books saved to an external hard-drive in case of emergency.
If the SHTF in my lifetime, I'm at-least prepared enough to not die the first week or so.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Bitter Cactus]
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Cowb0yNeal00 said: I'm with bitter cactus. global catastrophe bring people together and break social barrios. Ill be dancing in the streets. 
Anyone who thinks a survival kit will do anything during a real global catastrophe is kidding themselves.
Moonshoe acts like our society is all bad and volcanos are erupting and we are shooting nuclear missles at each other every day.
I actually think we do a great job at what we do. We have 7 billion people on this earth and overall we coexist peacefully. There are some wars going on in under developped nations, but I think over time when they start to become more developed that will improve to.
Overall, I think the outlook is good and I think Moonshoe acts like it is really bad but that is simply not the case.
most of us are starving though. At it has only been so for about 200 years
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: hTx]
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In what way will being out in the woods save you from catastrophe? Having a good supply of food is a plus, having a backup generator is good, a few other things too. But a bag to grab and run off to the wilderness makes no sense. You have less chance in the woods than in your own home.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: nicechrisman]
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Moonshoe the biggest catastrophe that will happen is Canada is forgetting to open a door for a stranger and saying "oops, sorry". It is not that bad bro you act like the world is this awful place.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Bitter Cactus]
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Bitter Cactus]
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Bitter Cactus said: Moonshoe the biggest catastrophe that will happen is Canada is forgetting to open a door for a stranger and saying "oops, sorry". It is not that bad bro you act like the world is this awful place.
I lost it to this
But imo canada takes fairly good care of its citizens compared to the US. Also, you guys have low population and high resources. Overall a much better position
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
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I really hate being the one who breaks it to you, death takes us all.please don't be shocked when what you are worring about happens and you can't do shit to stop it or save yourself. Live while you still can and accept the fact that you are already dead.Quote:
Moonshoe said: Honey bee populations, responsible for most of human food crops, are plummeting.
Mass die offs of fish, birds and animals are becoming increasingly common.
Enormous methane beds on the ocean floor are beginning to vent, which could cause a global extinction.
Ocean life is dying off at exponential rates, most commercial fish stocks are gone.
Deforestation has reached epic levels, compromising Earths oxygen cycle.
Climate change and global warming are reaching tipping point levels, perhaps triggering an out of control feedback loop.
Ocean levels are predicted to rise, and the majority of humanity lives on the coast, potentially triggering an unprecedented refugee crisis.
Impacts from asteroids threaten the Earth on a daily basis, as does super volcano eruption, which is due and could happen at any time (Yellowstone).
The ozone layer has been compromised, and earth is more vulnerable to a solar mass ejection or super flare that could knock out global power, including the cooling systems of nuclear power plants.
A global pandemic is inevitable.
Population explosion is unsustainable, inevitably threatening food crisis, water crisis etc.
Potable water is becoming more scarce. Water wars and chronic water scarcity looms on the horizon.
These are only a few of the indicators that should make us concerned that a potential global catastrophe, or set of catastrophes, is increasingly likely and fundamentally inevitable.
Therefore, preparation is warranted.
I have spent years preparing as best as I can, now I am beginning a new cycle of preperation.
What am I doing today?
Packing and organizing my various bug out bags full of concentrated essential survival supplies.
Filling hundreds of litres of reverse osmosis water in 18.9 litre jugs.
Stockpiling hundreds of meals of freeze dried food with a 20 year shelf life.
Stocking up on canned goods, medicines, drugs, weapons, ammunition, breathing masks and respirators, candles, firewood, matches, lighters, antibiotics topical and oral, knives, axes, latex gloves, work gloves, rain gear, camping gear, batteries, flash lights, radio, hygiene products, hand sanitizer, sunscreen, bug repellant...
Everything required to survive in as many potential scenarios as possible, from being stuck in a city while food and water and electricity systems break down, to surviving in the wilderness.
I have built redundant survival stockpiles, one in my home, one in my car, so that if I am out of the house in my car when shit hits the fan I am ready to survive anywhere, or if I am trapped at home I am likewise prepared.
Stockpiling non GMO heirloom vegetable seeds, cannabis seeds, building long term sustainability infrastructure-
Long term- solar panels, rainwater tanks, xeriscaped and permacultured food gardens, food trees, compost, green house and ultimately subteranean survival bunker.
If you can't afford to do much, just get the basics:












And a bonus tip: Get a glass of red wine and add a tsp of turmeric powder. Drink this daily.
Its a tonic for modern times.
What else can you do?
Prepare, and also travel and enjoy life, while we still can. So much beauty remains in the world, enjoy every second of it, but prepare for the changes that are already upon us.
When everyone else starts to prepare, its already too late.
The only chance to prepare is now, while most people are still oblivious to the urgency of this crisis.
Meditate. Find inner peace. Spend time with your family and friends.
Spend your life giving love, to yourself and those who are close to you. Love yourself, your life, your family, your friends, the earth, every second of your life, love every inhalation and every exhalation, every beat of your heart, every rising and setting of the sun and the moon.
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Why the fuck do people keep posting the long quotes? I agree with moonshoe that natural disaster or economic disaster will come. But if my whole family died and whatnot I doubt I would want to live. This life I have right now is pretty good. I cant imagine the hell of disaster.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: i like cow poo]
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: tripp23]
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: nicechrisman]
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: basqueshaman]
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basqueshaman said: I really hate being the one who breaks it to you, death takes us all.please don't be shocked when what you are worring about happens and you can't do shit to stop it or save yourself. Live while you still can and accept the fact that you are already dead.Quote:
Moonshoe said: Honey bee populations, responsible for most of human food crops, are plummeting.
Mass die offs of fish, birds and animals are becoming increasingly common.
Enormous methane beds on the ocean floor are beginning to vent, which could cause a global extinction.
Ocean life is dying off at exponential rates, most commercial fish stocks are gone.
Deforestation has reached epic levels, compromising Earths oxygen cycle.
Climate change and global warming are reaching tipping point levels, perhaps triggering an out of control feedback loop.
Ocean levels are predicted to rise, and the majority of humanity lives on the coast, potentially triggering an unprecedented refugee crisis.
Impacts from asteroids threaten the Earth on a daily basis, as does super volcano eruption, which is due and could happen at any time (Yellowstone).
The ozone layer has been compromised, and earth is more vulnerable to a solar mass ejection or super flare that could knock out global power, including the cooling systems of nuclear power plants.
A global pandemic is inevitable.
Population explosion is unsustainable, inevitably threatening food crisis, water crisis etc.
Potable water is becoming more scarce. Water wars and chronic water scarcity looms on the horizon.
These are only a few of the indicators that should make us concerned that a potential global catastrophe, or set of catastrophes, is increasingly likely and fundamentally inevitable.
Therefore, preparation is warranted.
I have spent years preparing as best as I can, now I am beginning a new cycle of preperation.
What am I doing today?
Packing and organizing my various bug out bags full of concentrated essential survival supplies.
Filling hundreds of litres of reverse osmosis water in 18.9 litre jugs.
Stockpiling hundreds of meals of freeze dried food with a 20 year shelf life.
Stocking up on canned goods, medicines, drugs, weapons, ammunition, breathing masks and respirators, candles, firewood, matches, lighters, antibiotics topical and oral, knives, axes, latex gloves, work gloves, rain gear, camping gear, batteries, flash lights, radio, hygiene products, hand sanitizer, sunscreen, bug repellant...
Everything required to survive in as many potential scenarios as possible, from being stuck in a city while food and water and electricity systems break down, to surviving in the wilderness.
I have built redundant survival stockpiles, one in my home, one in my car, so that if I am out of the house in my car when shit hits the fan I am ready to survive anywhere, or if I am trapped at home I am likewise prepared.
Stockpiling non GMO heirloom vegetable seeds, cannabis seeds, building long term sustainability infrastructure-
Long term- solar panels, rainwater tanks, xeriscaped and permacultured food gardens, food trees, compost, green house and ultimately subteranean survival bunker.
If you can't afford to do much, just get the basics:












And a bonus tip: Get a glass of red wine and add a tsp of turmeric powder. Drink this daily.
Its a tonic for modern times.
What else can you do?
Prepare, and also travel and enjoy life, while we still can. So much beauty remains in the world, enjoy every second of it, but prepare for the changes that are already upon us.
When everyone else starts to prepare, its already too late.
The only chance to prepare is now, while most people are still oblivious to the urgency of this crisis.
Meditate. Find inner peace. Spend time with your family and friends.
Spend your life giving love, to yourself and those who are close to you. Love yourself, your life, your family, your friends, the earth, every second of your life, love every inhalation and every exhalation, every beat of your heart, every rising and setting of the sun and the moon.
Namaste.

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I like how he has polysporin in the survival kit.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: nicechrisman]
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Guys guys 
1..You see a guy taking preparations to be self reliant instead of relying on the government in case of calamity, realistic and otherwise.
2..You overemphasize how extreme and bizarre it all is.
3..Profit! You saved yourself the hassle of taking even basic precautions to prepare for calamity.
So you got a gun and want to take his prep? Well tadaa so does Moonshoe, and he has a small militia of devoted friends taking a stand with him, out of loyalty and because he gave them a strategic advantage with his prep.
If you don't want to go as far as Moonshoe heres what to do:
-Assume you'll take your stand in your home. -Get a first aid kit for the home, you really need that anyway. -Get acetaminophen, get diphenhydramine, get loperamide. -Get food and drink for a month in your home. -Get a camping stove and cartridges to cook the food and a months supply of toiletpaper and trashbags to wipe and get rid of the food. -Get a bottle of non sudsy chlorine bleach and a pair of household gloves. Refresh this bottle every year. Also get a pack of dust mouth masks, such as used in construction. -If possible, get a months worth of cash in your home in small bills. -Get a LifeStraw. You need just one for up to a family. -Get candles, glowsticks, a led flashlight, batteries and a lil radio set to the emergency frequency. -Get a survival book or at the very least download LDS and BUSHDOCTOR and USARMY (these are direct downloads of .pdf files here on the Shroomery) -Get a quality survival style knife like a Ka-Bar or Fallkniven F1 and a knife sharpener, a multitool and waterproof matches. -Get a weapon for home defense. In tight gun law countries this can be something like a chefs knife or screwdriver ducktaped to a yard long steel pipe, a machete or quality shortsword such as a wakizashi, crossbow, ice axe (for mountaineering), pepperspray or baseball bat, in places like the US a handgun is best. -Get some drugs in your home that you won't binge on but which will help pass the time and serve as potential barter. Don't forget coffee, tea, alcohol and tobacco if you are in the habit and can have em in your home without going overboard.
You don't have to get this all at once, you can pick up an item every now and then and add it to your collection.
As for a months food and drink, you can consider getting a box of emergency rations, army ones (like the NRG-5 the UN and Red Cross uses but your own nation's army typically has the most affordable kind) or luxury ones like the freeze dried gourmet stuff like Mountain House brand. Emergency rations have the advantage of being compact, calorie dense and have shelf lives of 10, 15 or 25 years which means you can forget about them for over a decade. In addition to that many can be consumed as-is so theres no need for elaborate cooking, which may not be possible.
If you got these you are waaay ahead of nine out of ten people. Note that a prep like this is of a size you can still stuff in a car and drive off with.
Interest your VERY closest friends in the whole prep thing and propose to shack up in case of calamity. This combines your efforts, supplies and skills and at once you got a team. Teams of tight knit friends have higher survivability.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Asante]
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Aren't we all 9 meals away from anarchy at any given time? Seems a pretty precarious situation, BUT then again we've done alright this far. I mean 'we' as in Western Civilization. Not them other fuckers...
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: SoupSandwich]
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were all to poor to stockpile shit now anyways, except for water but the best most people are going to be able to do for that is to fill their bathtub up, and that's kinda shitty cuss then you have to take bath's out of the toilet.
Then for food, really the best thing you can do is buy a case or 2 of ramen noodles, which if you ate them all in a row you'd prolly die anyway. The way society is setup, if society falls, only a tiny handful can live off of the tiny amount of wild life in the forests. And when shit hits the fan everyone is going to hit those forests, aka wild life goes extinct and fucks everyone.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: makaveli8x8]
#22266879 - 09/20/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just bought my first machete style blade.. it's awesome, cant wait to get it out in the bush and try it out.

it comes with a diamond sharpener and a fire starter a sheath that can attach to your back or the side of your thigh..
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Asante]
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to note: no one here is advocating to be unprepared for anything, at all, in anyway shape or form period. what people are abdicating is the response to alarmist views.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
#22269449 - 09/21/15 01:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Aliens are creepy, they can read your thoughts, paralyze you, control you, erase your memory and give you new memories.. .Creepy ass mother fucken aliens.. but some are ok, but still creepy. Some are just cold as ice, vulcan to the core.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: abductee]
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They wont end the world, just change it under our noses, change us...
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
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I had a couple experiences I remember, and i'm sure more that I dont. I worry about my son, he's autistic and I wonder if they visit him too or take him I do think Jesus was an alien or hybrid. this painting is like 400 years old ( just a guess)its titled the birth of christ.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
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336 said: Shit I hope they invade within the next two weeks. Or some shit. Even if only the trippers can see them; have them rapture us. Hahaha. All the drug/shaman/generally cool people get a mass exodus via the aliens.
I'd lol at the Christians being all, "WTF THATS SUPPOSED TO BE US!" hahaha
Well if you look how modern day christians vote.. and considering Jesus was a communist and a pacifist, guess who's NOT getting raptured.
Modern day christians are the type of people who crucified Christ and threw the early christians before the lions.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Asante]
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I got a bunch of pics of paintings that some date before b.c that depict satelite looking things. I get shivers when I think of it, I try not to think of them or open my mind up like I can.. I feel its like me paging them to come visit and I really dont want them too.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Asante]
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isn't that why Christ was born or something so he could die for our sins? So Christians have to continue hating people so that he can be reincarnated again, so he can come back and die for our sins again.
Don't you see, were meant to hate each other! Its the only way for Christ to be born
But here's the thing, how do we know Christ wasn't really Lucifer, and its all a plot to get people to do evil things so they go to hell and fed the devils belly. Its all one big scam, the best scam ever created
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
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is good or bad a human quality or definition, or a quality shared among all things with a soul/consciousness?
here's a link to a bunch of religious paintings that have ufo's and aliens in it.. I think if you click on them they will give you a time period. https://www.google.ca/search?q=religious+paintings+with+aliens&biw=1366&bih=705&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0CBsQsARqFQoTCOeZv_f3iMgCFYORcgodBhgEQw
because of me putting too much in the search field, some pics are not really paintings, but you can tell them apart. The one with the alien and the monkey and a baby I dont believe is from the renaissance period.lol
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
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a lot of the ones that look old are real. you can google them individually and see where they are displayed or what have you. The vatican believes in ufos and extraterrestrials beings, They probably have paintings hidden away or documents. They always end up at places where mass of peoples witness paranormal events surrounding e.ts or ufo formations. Even the Vatican's chief of astrology believes in ufo's and aliens. I dont think the vatican would let him go on record with his beliefs unless they backed him
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
#22270051 - 09/21/15 03:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I hear ya man, have you tried growing mushies?
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: abductee]
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Good posts all:
The feeling that you don't need to prepare is based on a lack of historical awareness. Throughout all of Earths history cataclysmic Local and global disasters are constant , inevitable and frequent and that's not even counting all the human caused disasters that can also happen.
Again listen to Randall carlsons two podcasts with Joe rogan for some fascinating info about this just YouTube them.
Polysporin is one of the most important things for sure. All it takes is a tiny scratch to become infected and create a serious problem without a topical antibiotic.
Antibiotics generally oral and topical are worth far more then gold in any disaster.
Asteroids and super volcanos are 100% guaranteed to happen eventually and likely with no warning and if there is a warning it's already too late as there will instantly be a huge rush on supplies and they all sell out in an hour.
Financial collapse, war and pandemic are also highly likely.
Mass power outage, drought and food scarcity is also increasingly likely.
These are just a few things that we realistically can expect and should prepare for.
Thanks for your great post Asante.
If all you can afford is a few jugs of water and a case of ramen is a great start.
The bug out bag works equally well if you need to survive in place or if you need to run at a moments notice.
Simple scenario- a house fire. You need to get out you grab one bag and have everything you need to survive including passport and cash, tent and food etc. Or if there is a local disaster that will effect your home area and you need to evacuate
And if you stay in place which is often preferable your bug out bag has everything you need to stay put with no external help
My goal is to have enough stockpiled to survive in my home for one year with my wife and no groceries, power or running water or medical care.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
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Moonshoe said: Honey bee populations, responsible for most of human food crops, are plummeting.
Mass die offs of fish, birds and animals are becoming increasingly common.
Enormous methane beds on the ocean floor are beginning to vent, which could cause a global extinction.
Ocean life is dying off at exponential rates, most commercial fish stocks are gone.
Deforestation has reached epic levels, compromising Earths oxygen cycle.
Climate change and global warming are reaching tipping point levels, perhaps triggering an out of control feedback loop.
Ocean levels are predicted to rise, and the majority of humanity lives on the coast, potentially triggering an unprecedented refugee crisis.
Impacts from asteroids threaten the Earth on a daily basis, as does super volcano eruption, which is due and could happen at any time (Yellowstone).
The ozone layer has been compromised, and earth is more vulnerable to a solar mass ejection or super flare that could knock out global power, including the cooling systems of nuclear power plants.
A global pandemic is inevitable.
Population explosion is unsustainable, inevitably threatening food crisis, water crisis etc.
Potable water is becoming more scarce. Water wars and chronic water scarcity looms on the horizon.
Either over thinking it, or not thinking enough.
Scientists recently found that populations of bees are dying because of a combination of pesticides and hive infections. It's not one thing but several. And the government a few years ago stole some dude's honey bees because they were resistant to the pesticides. So they're probably trying to figure out how to spread the gene that helps.
I have not heard of mass die offs becoming more common. I read a lot of news and pay attention to that sort of stuff. Do they happen? Yes, but not to whole species and not all the time. You're talking a freak storm that screws up a bird's radar at night and they kill each other because they can't see. Or a school of fish that had some magnetic fields f*** them up. This has always happened throughout history though.
Methane could cause mass deaths, but not globally. Only near the coasts where it reaches the surface. That's assuming it isn't dispersed by wind after reaching the surface.
Ocean life is not dying off. Yes we're killing tons of fish, but that's why it's becoming more popular to build fish farms. Where there's a need, we create solutions. I think there's a huge fish farm in the planning stages right now.
Deforestation is not that bad. You're under the impression that forests provide most of earths oxygen. They don't. Ocean algae creates 65% of our oxygen. So take solace in the fact that if we're really killing tons of fish, less fish means less algae eaten, meaning we have more oxygen available. :P
Climate change and global warming are still being disputed within the scientific community. Case in point: http://www.sott.net/article/277349-Top-scientist-resigns-from-post-admits-Global-Warming-is-a-scam
Even if oceans were to rise to their fullest, assuming all the ice melts on the face of the earth, you're only talking an ocean rise of like 275 feet. Yes, coastal lives would be a concern, but not really. The oceans would rise gradually inches a year. So slow that enough people will eventually get the message that they should move. No one is going to sit in the water like "Nope, not gonna move" when their living room is flooding inches per year. The house would be a waste after a year or two of continual flooding. People are ignorant, but not stupid.
I've seen the predictions of the super volcano going off in Yellowstone. You're talking like a 5th of the US would be wrecked. But not much more than that. A lot of people would be affected, but it's not the end of the world. As for asteroids, I can't help you there. We're discovering more every day and tracking them, but there's always a possibility in the next 50 years we get one that we couldn't see before coming right at us. But I think that's highly unlikely.
The ozone has been compromised, but ozone is a natural substance created by oxygenating plants. All we need to do is stop venting toxic gases and we're good. But there's nothing scary about it. It's the worst in Antarctica. Nowhere else is really having problems.
Global pandemic is inevitable. There's no way around that.
The population issue is being solved every day by innovators designing underground buildings, ocean living quarters and tighter living conditions that produce the same amount of comfort. There are even people who are building multilevel farms now. It'll get to skyscrapers full of food. You're talking a building who's base square footage takes up 10 acres and it's 40 stories high. 400 acres of food in a single building. That's the future.
Potable water isn't scarce. All water is potable with the right filtering and processing. The problem isn't water, but the plants that process it can't keep up with demand. Water waste is of some concern, but many companies just don't look too far into the future when building. They build smaller than they should to make a profit faster instead of spending more from the beginning to have a product that can keep up with demand 100 years from now. That'll change at some point. And there's bound to be innovation in water processing that helps out too, somewhere down the line.
I get where you're coming from. Prepare. Great. Not a problem. I prepare too. I like collecting seeds and survival gear. Planning out my future bomb shelter and such. But you're too fearful of things that might not be. And even if they happen, you think it'll all happen in the next 20 years and that it's the end of the world afterward. I'm confident and innovative. I like designing sustainable systems and I know that there are lots of high level scientists and engineers who like doing the same thing, but on a much grander scale of thinking. We're too driven to let our species die off so easily. Relax.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: JoeP83]
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I appreciate your comforting take on things . I wish I didn't know that a lot of what you say is totally incorrect but I hope you are right about some of it.
Creating sustainable systems requires resiliency part Of which is everyone preparing. If everyone has there own rain water barrel and food garden society would be far more resilient. So do it! Plant a vegetable garden and put out a big barrel to catch rain .
You are on your way! There is no way around these facts-a global catastrophe is one hundred percent gauranteed to happen . There have been at least five global mass extinctions in earths history and we are currently in the middle of the sixth.
This is a scientific fact- species are dying off at thousands of times the notm background rate of extinction. A massive percentage of all life on earth is going extinct: we are experiencing the biggest mass die off since the earth was hit by the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs.
It's not just that a global catastrophe could Happen, it WILL happen and not just that it IS happening.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
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Moonshoe said: This is a scientific fact- species are dying off at thousands of times the notm background rate of extinction. A massive percentage of all life on earth is going extinct: we are experiencing the biggest mass die off since the earth was hit by the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs.
I have a hard time believing anything you say is a "fact" at this point. You assert something science has yet to prove, but say it's a fact; that dinosaurs dying off had something to do with an asteroid. It's one of the theories to the final dino period disaster, but not the only theory and certainly not a proven fact. Dinosaurs lived for millions of years. There were lots of causes to them dying off or dying back over time. There's no way a single asteroid could destroy millions of years worth of dinos. You had diseases, volcanic catastrophes and an occasional asteroid. Dinosaurs, however, still live in every bird, reptile, fish, mammal and amphibian that walks this planet or swims its waters. That's how we came up with the idea of evolution. "Mutation theory that spans millions of years." Not "mutation theory that spans only 200,000 years of human existence."
I don't know where you get your "science," but it sounds like a loony Alex Jones fear-mongering type of person.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: JoeP83]
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I'm glad to see the conversation shift somewhat toward more likely scenarios like extended power outages, water outages and so on. Driving out into the woods is seldom going to be the best move and usually being prepared at home will be your best bet.
Stuff happens, they all tell you a given thing can never happen but then it does. They may blame it on Chinese hackers, terrorists, or something else but it will most likely be due to govt incompetence in some way.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Stonehenge]
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can u guys imagine if electric AND gas went out? a lot of people would just flat out die in the winter, the other half is going to have every tree visable chopped down the first winter
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
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Your description of your prep inspired me to discuss LifeStraw's with my prep friends and we got one each.
A drinking straw with an unlimited shelf life if unused, that will purify a thousand liters (264 gal) of water as fast as you can suck it up, wow thats a wonderful thing to have.
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Its also used a lot in developing nations. If it works in Africa, it works anywhere!
only 20 dollars too
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: makaveli8x8]
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makaveli8x8 said: can u guys imagine if electric AND gas went out? a lot of people would just flat out die in the winter, the other half is going to have every tree visable chopped down the first winter
Sleeping bags in the livingroom warmed with hot water bottles from the camping stove. Camp out in your own home. Drain the pipes before they break by freezing.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Asante]
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I bought a lifestraw, it's pretty damn good. I love the water pouch that came with it, I use that everyday actually 
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Dinosaurs, however, still live in every bird, reptile, fish, mammal and amphibian that walks this planet or swims its waters. That's how we came up with the idea of evolution. "Mutation theory that spans millions of years." Not "mutation theory that spans only 200,000 years of human existence."
You do know that mammals, fish, and reptiles are from a completely different line than dinosaurs right? The majority of them died out, the ones that survived evolved into birds, not anything else.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Achillita]
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when I went to science class in middleschool our teacher took a clear glass tube, filled it with like a foot of dirt and sand, and then offered anyone to drink the water that came out of it. you could do charcoal instead of dirt pretty easily, pure sand im sure would work good too, im not really sure why she used dirt I guess just to show how easy it is or something
so if you have a pvc pipe or any pipe you could set something like that up, just run your water through it a bunch of times
those life straws seem kinda pointless, unless u have 100 of them really whats the point? after a couple weeks it would prolly be so clogged you couldn't suck through it, from what I heard its hard to suck through them brand new, and after a month 2 or 3 you prolly couldn't really trust it nor use it. prepping should be able whats sustainable
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: makaveli8x8]
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one thing that is possible that could happen anytime is a massive solar flare that would act as am emp of sorts and fry all electronics. It happened before in I believe 1898 or around then, it caused the telegraph wires to catch fire and their boxes to explode. Id have to double check dates.. but you can google it. A mass solar flare like that would fuck us up. no electricity.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: abductee]
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those life straws seem kinda pointless, unless u have 100 of them really whats the point? after a couple weeks it would prolly be so clogged you couldn't suck through it, from what I heard its hard to suck through them brand new, and after a month 2 or 3 you prolly couldn't really trust it nor use it. prepping should be able whats sustainable
For a decade under African conditions they have proven that 1 lifestraw with proper use gets you 1000 liters = 264 gal of purified water.
You can always make a soil filter or dig a well. Thing is, a lifestraw is immediately ready for use and weighs less than 2 ounces.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: makaveli8x8]
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makaveli8x8 said: when I went to science class in middleschool our teacher took a clear glass tube, filled it with like a foot of dirt and sand, and then offered anyone to drink the water that came out of it. you could do charcoal instead of dirt pretty easily, pure sand im sure would work good too, im not really sure why she used dirt I guess just to show how easy it is or something
so if you have a pvc pipe or any pipe you could set something like that up, just run your water through it a bunch of times
those life straws seem kinda pointless, unless u have 100 of them really whats the point? after a couple weeks it would prolly be so clogged you couldn't suck through it, from what I heard its hard to suck through them brand new, and after a month 2 or 3 you prolly couldn't really trust it nor use it. prepping should be able whats sustainable
Back washng prevents permanent clogage, and makes it where you can use it for multiple times. With proper maintenance(which is really easy), and if you drink 8 ounces of water a day, it could lasr you 528 days. That's pretty damn good. And that's if you only use it.
Life straw is pretty easy to drink out of though, there are other brands that have been known to clog up and be shitty.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Achillita]
#22278395 - 09/23/15 11:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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8oz of water per day? You will die if that's all you get. So we should get a straw and go out into the woods if bad things go down?
A solar flare will simply disrupt communications for a while. abd, got anything to back up the story about telegraph wires burning?
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Asante]
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those life straws seem kinda pointless, unless u have 100 of them really whats the point? after a couple weeks it would prolly be so clogged you couldn't suck through it, from what I heard its hard to suck through them brand new, and after a month 2 or 3 you prolly couldn't really trust it nor use it. prepping should be able whats sustainable
For a decade under African conditions they have proven that 1 lifestraw with proper use gets you 1000 liters = 264 gal of purified water.
You can always make a soil filter or dig a well. Thing is, a lifestraw is immediately ready for use and weighs less than 2 ounces.
for some reason I assumed that 264 gallons was if u ran water through it continuously, which I also assume is how they tested it.
So my concern about it is 2 fold
1. Over months and months it would clog (your mention of Africa's use of them may have already taken care of this concern)
2. is that I assume there is some expiration date after you start using one, so the only way you get 264 gallons is if again you are basically constantly sucking water through it.
so I dunno I havn't really researched into them much, I just assumed they must be fairly similar to other filtration systems, and all of those have expiration dates on them, every single one. Infact some of them even have a date if you never open them.
Id like to see some kind of test that was run on those life straws after they had been in use for like 8 months or something
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: makaveli8x8]
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Stonehenge said: 8oz of water per day? You will die if that's all you get. So we should get a straw and go out into the woods if bad things go down?
A solar flare will simply disrupt communications for a while. abd, got anything to back up the story about telegraph wires burning?
I meant 8 8 ounce cups of water.
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those life straws seem kinda pointless, unless u have 100 of them really whats the point? after a couple weeks it would prolly be so clogged you couldn't suck through it, from what I heard its hard to suck through them brand new, and after a month 2 or 3 you prolly couldn't really trust it nor use it. prepping should be able whats sustainable
For a decade under African conditions they have proven that 1 lifestraw with proper use gets you 1000 liters = 264 gal of purified water.
You can always make a soil filter or dig a well. Thing is, a lifestraw is immediately ready for use and weighs less than 2 ounces.
for some reason I assumed that 264 gallons was if u ran water through it continuously, which I also assume is how they tested it.
So my concern about it is 2 fold
1. Over months and months it would clog (your mention of Africa's use of them may have already taken care of this concern)
2. is that I assume there is some expiration date after you start using one, so the only way you get 264 gallons is if again you are basically constantly sucking water through it.
so I dunno I havn't really researched into them much, I just assumed they must be fairly similar to other filtration systems, and all of those have expiration dates on them, every single one. Infact some of them even have a date if you never open them.
Id like to see some kind of test that was run on those life straws after they had been in use for like 8 months or something
Maintence is required for keeping them last for a long time. They don't have expiration dates on them either.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: JoeP83]
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THE GLOBAL ECOLOGICAL CRISIS
(Pay particular attention to the section on biodiversity loss)
Introduction
The contemporary world is charged with an atmosphere of “anxious uncertainty, which seems to animate much of the public discussion on planetary futures today” (Stoett 2012, xi). This anxiety is borne out of a growing awareness that “fears of cataclysmic events-ones related both to climate change and to more natural disasters- are certainly ripe” (Stoett 2012, xi). So pervasive and existential are these environmental anxieties that they may now “be compared to the fear of nuclear annihilation that marked the cold war period” (Stoett 2012, xi). Unfortunately, these anxieties are not exaggerated or unfounded, as there is now an overwhelming scientific consensus that the planet Earth is confronted by an ecological crisis of massive proportions, one that jeopardizes the survival of both human civilization and the majority of plant and animal life (Sachs 2008, Korten 2006).
Indeed, “the empirical evidence that there are multiple and interconnected environmental crises and that human communities are threatened by their culminated impact is rather incontrovertible” (Stoett 2012, 3). It cannot be overemphasized that “a large and growing body of evidence—representing the majority of experts across academic fields—has demonstrated that we are in the midst of an ecological crisis. While it is impossible to pinpoint the exact date of the “endgame” or tipping point, there is no doubt that we are facing a period of profound instability” (Brownlee and Kuneman 2012, 59).
It has been observed that “so profound are these issues that the most prevalent cultural motif today...is that we are in collective trouble, and this theme is reflected in a postmodern planetary anxiety, which engulfs much of the public thinking about our collective future” (Stoett 2012, 2).
Human activity has dramatically and rapidly decreased the livability of the planet Earth, with the consequence that the very survival of the species has now been called into question (Bauman 2001, 187). As a result of the catastrophic erosion of ecosystems and the resulting degradation of vital natural resources such as fertile soil, fresh water and clean air, humanity is now confronting a global environmental emergency of apocalyptic proportions.
Jared Diamond (2005) has argued that our society, like so many before it, is heading for collapse. The primary driver of that collapse will almost certainly be ecocide. Ecocide is a key concept in this analysis, because “ecocide has now come to overshadow nuclear war and emerging diseases as a threat to global civilization” (Diamond 2005, 7). Therefore, “the post-cold war era has not been free from the existential fears of previous generations who were made to hide under school desks in futile nuclear attack drills. If anything, the angst is sharper today because of the gnawing feeling that we could, should, must do more” in the face of the “rampant ecocide that now threatens all future generations” (Stoett 2012, 2).
Ecocide is defined as the systematic destruction of ecosystems and the extermination of non-human species. However, ecocide also means “unintended ecological suicide…people inadvertently destroying the natural resources on which their societies depend” (Diamond 2005, 6). Therefore, ecocide refers to the set of processes by which humans are systematically eroding the very planetary life support systems on which their own existence relies.
Chapter 1: Climate Change and Biodiversity Loss
This chapter presents an introduction to, and preliminary analysis of, the two primary facets of the global ecological crisis. The first aspect of the crisis is climate change, and the second is biodiversity loss. Both will now be explained in detail.
Contemporary anthropogenic climate change refers primarily to the rapid rise of planetary temperatures as a result of the atmospheric accumulation of pollutants emitted by human practices of transportation and production. However, both record high and record low temperatures have been experienced in particular locales and a general destabilization of climate patterns and intensification of weather events are as much a part of climate change as general warming. These atmospheric pollutants, sometimes referred to as greenhouse gases, trap solar heat in the atmosphere resulting in a warming global climate. There is a strong and growing consensus that “global warming is a threat to life on earth and is caused by the increasing atmospheric accumulation of carbon dioxide, methane, oxides of nitrogen and chlorofluorocarbons” (Marsden 2007, 126). The control of these greenhouse gases has arguably become the foremost environmental challenge facing humanity today (along with the related issue of atmospheric ozone depletion) and climate change is already affecting the health of children and putting the future of coming generations into jeopardy (Heesterman and Heesterman 2013, 1).
Global warming is anticipated to have at least six major catastrophic effects on human life. These are: 1. massive displacement of human populations as glaciers melt and sea levels rise, resulting in the flooding of coastal cities and the uprooting of “hundreds of millions of coastal dwellers” (Homer-Dixon 2009, 18). 2. A drastic increase in the scarcity of fresh water as lakes evaporate, rivers dry up and freshwater aquifers are destroyed by salinization from rising oceans. 3. Increased rates of starvation and food scarcity as water for irrigation becomes rare and “shifting weather patterns…turn the world’s breadbaskets into dust bowls” (Homer-Dixon 2009, 18). 4. An increase in the frequency and severity of lethal heat waves, extreme climactic events and natural disasters. 5. An increase in social conflict and military violence, as geopolitical pressures associated with “climate change will help produce…violence in the form of insurgencies, guerrilla attacks, gang warfare, and terrorism that is diffuse and chronic” (Homer-Dixon 2009, 19). 6. Increased spread of infectious disease, as “rising temperatures are bound to contribute to an increase in cholera, diarrhoea and malaria” (Clarke 2008, 62).
For the global ecosystem “human pressures on the Earth’s… climate, unless mitigated… will cause dangerous climate change, massive species extinction, and the destruction of vital (ecosystemic) life support functions” (Sachs 2008, 6). The ecological consequences will be numerous and in many cases disastrous. For example, “global warming will raise ocean temperatures and lead to massive coral bleaching, in which the corals expel the micro algal organisms that give the corals their dazzling colors, and die” (Sachs 2008, 74). Coral reefs are among the most ecologically rich and biodiverse environments on earth, and their destruction will be disastrous for marine species.
Although the worst consequences of climate change are no doubt still looming on the horizon, significant “climactic damage… has already occurred, (including) droughts in East Africa, flooding in Bangladesh, (and) flooding in Southern Germany” (Heesterman and Heesterman 2013, 17). Furthermore, the health and life chances of children in the developing world have been severely threatened, melting of the arctic sea ice has exceeded even the most pessimistic expectations, and the Earth’s surface has heated by one degree centigrade since the mid-1950s (Heesterman and Heesterman 2013, 17). Sadly, “in all probability it has already caused irreparable damage, which is likely to become worse” as “the consumption of fossil fuels and more generally the creation and use of industrial products is a basic characteristic of our society” and “this makes it extremely difficult to reduce emissions of CO2 and other greenhouse gases to a level capable of preventing their concentration in the atmosphere from rising even further” (Heesterman and Heesterman 2013, 17).
The severity of the negative outcomes associated with climate change is dependent upon the extent of the global temperature rise and the intensity of carbon saturation in the atmosphere. This is represented by the notion of climate thresholds, levels of change that differentiate apocalyptic global warming from warming that is ‘merely’ disastrous. Many “climate scientists agree that the critical threshold for temperature rise on the planet is two degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels” and hope that “holding global temperatures at two degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels...would be sufficient to bring global warming under control”, thereby averting the worst outcomes (Clarke 2008, 61).
If, on the other hand, carbon emissions are not brought under control and temperatures rise above the two degree threshold, experts predict that we will pass a point of no return, beyond which “major ecosystems on the planet will begin to collapse (and) start releasing greenhouse gases instead of absorbing them...At this moment and beyond climate change will be out of our hands and accelerate without our help” (Clarke 2008, 61). The extent of temperature rise is also correlated with the concentration of carbon as measured in parts per million. In this case, “climate scientists generally agreed that 450 parts per million was potentially a critical threshold. Beyond that point, they argued, the biosphere itself could start to release massive amounts of carbon…(and) this would be the beginning of a slide to irreversible and perhaps catastrophic climate change” (Homer-Dixon 2009, 16).
Unfortunately, new research has suggested that previous estimates may have been too optimistic, and that the threshold of catastrophic change may in fact be considerably lower. Recently “a consensus has begun to emerge that the safe threshold is likely far below 450 parts per million” and “the lead climate scientist at NASA…has recently argued that the world needs to return to 350 parts per million” (Homer-Dixon 2009, 16). If this estimate is correct, the critical threshold may have already been passed as much as two decades ago.
Although specific predictions vary, all “models agree that the business-as-usual path of GHG emission trajectory will sooner or later cause a phase transition in the coupled atmospheric system, after which socio-political policy actions and behavioral changes by themselves will not be adequate to stop run-away climate change” (Zia 2013, 11). This is because “the natural biogeochemical cycle would have degenerated to the point that reduction in anthropogenic GHG emissions would be inadequate to stop the global warming effect from playing havoc in diverse socio-ecological systems” (Zia 2013, 11). Curbing emissions in time to prevent this catastrophic threshold from being crossed is therefore an urgent and unavoidable component of human civilization’s struggle to solve the global ecological crisis, and the urgency of the climate change crisis demands a rapid transition from carbon-intensive to sustainable methods of production and employment” (Heesterman and Heesterman 2013, 4).
Even if climate change can be kept below catastrophic thresholds, consequences for humanity and nature will be extreme. Even modest increases in temperature can have profound effects, and Clarke (2008) argues that “temperature increases of less than one degree above pre-industrial levels ... would trigger a decline in crop yields, the spread of drought within the Saharan region of Africa, a further deterioration of water quality and a dying off of coral reefs” (62). Meanwhile, “if temperatures rise by less than 1.5 degrees above pre-industrial levels, we can expect that an additional 400 million people will face water shortages, an additional 5 million people will go hungry, and 18 percent of the world's species will become extinct” (Clarke 2008, 62). It is abundantly clear, therefore, that responding to climate change is an extremely urgent aspect of addressing the global ecological crisis.
Some experts predict that “an even greater harm… might come from our interference with ecological processes” in the form of anthropogenic global warming. This theory postulates that the end result of our greenhouse gas emissions may be nothing less than mass extinction. For example, Ward (2007) “has found historical parallels between previous mass extinction events and a strong rise in greenhouse gases. In the case of the largest extinction event, the Permian extinction of 200 million years ago… 90% of the species on earth and 97% of living beings were eliminated as a result of a massive atmospheric injection of greenhouse gases” (286). If human caused atmospheric emissions could induce a similar effect, the result could be a genuine apocalypse- the end of life on earth as we know it.
Biodiversity Loss
The second major facet of the global ecological disaster is biodiversity loss. This category is both a distinct environmental emergency and a direct consequence of climate change. According to White (2010), “biodiversity is generally defined as the variety of all species on earth. It refers to the different plants, animals and micro-organisms, and their genes that together make up life on the planet” (White 2010, 53). Contemporary biodiversity loss, therefore, refers to “the tide of species extinction and the overall reduction in species” as human destruction of ecosystems makes it impossible for other forms of life to survive (White 2010, 4).
Today “it is commonly understood that species are nearing extinction on a daily basis” and this the core of the issue of biodiversity loss (Stoett 2012, xii). In particular, “biodiversity is at serious risk from profit-oriented production methods and current patterns of consumption” and the exacerbating factor of human population growth (Heesterman and Heesterman 2013, 1). What has become exceedingly clear is that global “business as usual threatens the collapse of high biodiversity ecosystems, such as the tropical rainforest zones” (Heesterman and Heesterman 2013, 164). Furthermore, “there are indications that (although) there are threshold levels up to which the system as a whole can cope… the next dose of strain may cause a complete collapse” (Heesterman and Heesterman 2013, 164). When we will reach that fateful point of no-return is unclear, but strong indicators suggest that we do not have much time left to stem the tide of species extinctions before the hemorrhaging of planetary biodiversity reaches a terminal stage.
In essence, the problem of biodiversity loss describes the human transformation of Earth from a planet that is rich with a vast diversity of life to a planet that is genetically impoverished. Few now doubt the “evidence of massive and planet-wide species extinction at the hands of human activity” (Sachs 2008, 13).
Tragically, we are witnessing “the extermination of the majority of non-human species as an unintended consequence of the overuse of the earth’s resources” and the resulting consequences of “habitat destruction… collapsing fish stocks, destruction of coral reefs, irresponsible felling of tropical rainforests and overuse of water, to name but a few” (Heesterman and Heesterman 2013, 17). The Rio Convention on Biological Diversity has stated that "we are indeed experiencing the greatest wave of extinction since the disappearance of the dinosaurs" (Sachs 2008, 14). According to their estimates "every hour three species disappear. Every day up to 150 species are lost" (Sachs 2008, 14). This “wanton plunder of other forms of life is heartbreaking, quite apart from the fact that humanity itself might come to harm as a result of extinctions of this magnitude” (Heesterman and Heesterman 2013, 17-18) Clearly, therefore “there is an urgent need to rectify the damage that is still being inflicted on the ecosystem, to find a human lifestyle that does not attack its own physical and biological basis” (Heesterman and Heesterman 2013, 17).
In order to measure the rate of biodiversity loss, “the World Wildlife Fund regularly publishes a Living Planet Index that tracks the health of the world’s forest, freshwater, ocean, and coastal ecosystems over time” (Korten 2006, 59). This index provides a rough measure of the vital capacity and ecological wellbeing of our planet. Disturbingly, this index has “declined by 37% over the thirty year period from 1970 to 2000” (Korten 2006, 59). Biodiversity is the very fabric of life on earth, and this fabric is being torn apart. Although few species have remained unscathed in this global wave of mass extinctions, some have been hit especially hard. It is estimated that “amphibians face the greatest risk and coral species are deteriorating more rapidly in status” (Stoett 2012, 44). Overall, “the abundance of vertebrate species, based on assessed populations, fell by nearly a third on average between 1970 and 2006, and continues to fall globally, with especially severe declines in the tropics and among freshwater species” (Stoett 2012, 44).
One basic cause of biodiversity loss is the increased mastery of our environment afforded to human beings by our technology, combined with a lack of ethical respect and recognition for non-human forms of life. In essence, “we have become so adept at clearing the ecological playing field to satisfy human desires that we are shoving the rest of life right off the stage” (Sachs 2008, 66). The industrial revolution has allowed us to remake the natural world in our own image, to the extent that Paul Crutzen has dubbed the current age “the Anthropocene”- meaning that “human activity has become the dominant driver of the natural environment” (Sachs 2008, 64). This ecological disruption has been so profound that “scientists estimate that extinction rates are 1,000 times higher than the background or naturally expected rate” (Millennium Ecosystem Assessment [MEA] 2005, 3). Critical dimensions of anthropogenic species extinction include habitat disruption, “extensive fragmentation and degradation of forests, rivers and other ecosystems” and “crop and livestock genetic diversity… decline in agricultural systems” (Stoett 2012, 44). Part of the problem is that humans barely understand the ecological systems that we have usurped, and in just over 200 years humanity has driven species to extinction at a rate not seen on Earth since the dinosaurs were wiped out by a great meteor.
When biodiversity is lost untold genetic riches are lost with it. For example, thousands of lifesaving medicines have been derived from chemical analysis of plant species, and yet “less than 2 percent of all plant species have been fully tested in laboratories” (Narby 1998, 38). Remarkably “the great majority of the remaining 98% are in tropical forests” such as the Amazon, which “contains half of all the plant species on Earth” (Narby 1998, 38). Yet as human agents clear vast swathes of rainforest in order to undertake activities such as cattle ranching, mining and oil and gas exploration, the rapid deforestation in these areas is resulting in countless species “literally plummeting” towards extinction (Van Solinge 2010, 32). Another major driver of biodiversity loss is agriculture, particularly “monocropping schemes (which) are really testing the limits of the ecosystems. They are thirsty in water, fail to regenerate the soils and often result in an overuse of pesticides because the natural defenses in nature (thanks to the diversity of plants) are missing” (Heesterman and Heesterman 2013, 164). As a result of these sources of biodiversity loss, countless potential drugs, medicines and scientific breakthroughs will be lost forever, along with a great portion of the Earth’s beauty and ecological robustness.
The rate of biodiversity loss is truly frightening. In the last five hundred years “more than 750 species extinctions have been recorded by the international union for conservation and natural resources” (Van Solinge 2010, 143). These recorded extinctions are only the tip of the iceberg however, as the vast majority of extinctions are not recognized by science, often involving the annihilation of life forms before they can even be identified and classified by researchers. E.O. Wilson “has estimated that up to half of all species… faces a threat of extinction during the twenty-first century” (Van Solinge 2010, 143). Driven largely by “habitat destruction, climate change, and invasive species” the planetary ecosphere has been plunged in to “the greatest mass extinction in history” (Stoett 2012, 44 and 43). What we are witnessing is the literal collapse of life on Earth within the course of a single human generation. There can no longer be any doubt that “we are witnessing, and indeed enabling, a catastrophe” (Stoett 2012, 44).
The Earth is experiencing a “rapid deterioration of biodiversity across the plant and animal kingdoms” as a result of factors such as “(human) population growth; pollution; global climate change; habitat destruction; over-exploitation of natural resources and invasion of introduced species” (White 2011, 58).
It is believed that “the greatest threat to biodiversity is habitat destruction, which has many linked causes: deforestation, desertification, intentional or natural flooding and fire, land conversion for agriculture or commercial development, the spread of pollution including oil and radiation, and the introduction (intended or not) of invasive species” (Stoett 2012, 36). Another major factor is waste and pollution, which runs the gamut from the “local and perceptible, such as oil spills, river contamination or the effect of lead from car exhausts… to the other end of the scale… the threats to the integrity of global resources, such as the ozone layer, the atmosphere and ecosystem” (Heesterman and Heesterman 2013, 161). All of these factors are pushing species to extinction at an unprecedented rate. Consequently, “the loss of biodiversity in all three of its main components – genes, species and ecosystems – continues at a rapid pace today and the principal pressures directly driving biodiversity loss… are either constant or increasing in intensity” (White 2011, 53). These trends suggest that future generations of humans will inhabit a world largely devoid of wildlife, a world in which the magnificent living richness and diversity of planet Earth is a historical footnote rather than a living reality.
The relationship between biodiversity loss and climate change is both direct and complex. This is because “the destruction of ecosystems and biodiversity are not only reckless in their own right but also reinforce the CO2 content of the atmosphere... Climate change and acidification of the oceans with carbonic acid in their turn threaten biodiversity. They reduce capacity of the oceans to absorb CO2 in an augmenting two-way loop which again increases climate change. Rising water temperatures and incipient acidification of the oceans have led to large-scale coral bleaching with serious repercussions for marine biodiversity as well as grave implications for human health” (Heesterman and Heesterman 2013, 163). We must understand biodiversity loss and climate change as distinct but interconnected issues, each feeding into and reinforcing the other. Therefore we must search for solutions that address both problems simultaneously, and remember that although these two categories of global ecological harm cannot be collapsed in to one another, neither can they ever be fundamentally separated in analytical or pragmatic terms. Taken together, biodiversity loss and climate change are the two major faces of the global ecological crisis, and in order to solve either problem, we must solve both.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
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No matter what you do unless you're able to build your own self-sustaining microclimate all your prepping will be useless. Without air/water/fertile land and without stable oceans we will all die. No amount of prepping will save you so just pack a pistol with a few bullets in it. The only chance is if we ALL change our habits, e.g. not eating so much meat (production of meat in america uses more water than ANYTHING and produces more greenhouse gasses than the whole pop of the U.S. put out by driving), not overfishing our oceans, finding renewable ways to sustain our lives and dramatically reducing the global pop. (none of which is happening fast enough or even at all). Basically unless we change it now, you, me, our families and just about every organism thats not an extremophile on this earth is fucked. Its funny to think people believe that without pollinators, ocean currents, clean water, an atmosphere, etc you'll be able to survive. 50-100 years from now earth wont be earth as we know it now at this pace.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
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what would be the point.
Bro what are you talking about? You'd be free to go wherever you want; you'd be a travelling nomad, you could just be smoking up herb and tripping whenever you like. lol Sure a lot of horrible shit would comprise your life but that doesn't mean you couldn't find some awesome shit to do. lol
haha how are you going to get drugs in a world where clean air and water and food are going to be luxuries........read The Road and tell me that sounds like fun again
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: MysticMoteToter]
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Whether we can survive will depend on the extent of the catastrophe. There are some so severe that nothing could possibly save you for even a minute, not even an underground bunker, but many others where the right preperation would see you through perfectly fine (a temporary power outage, severe snow storm or thunder storm, earthquake, temporary food and water interuption) and many circumstances where life will become very hard for a while (economic collapse, draught, famine, disease) but with the right preperation you could be ok, and even in a very bad situation (super volcano eruption) extensive preperation could allow some to survive for a much longer time.
In a more or less worst case scenario I only expect to be able to survive for one year with my wife and thats with very extensive preperation.
To have enough food and water and stuff in the house that you could live for a full year for two people without any running water, electricity or food inputs and without leaving the house.
In most cases that have occured in human history, the right preparation would have made all the difference.
Even our ancient ancestors who lived within the blast radius of the last supervolcano eruption had some survivors. There will generally be some who survive even in absolute global catacylsms and those who prepare are far more likely to survive.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
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In a more or less worst case scenario I only expect to be able to survive for one year with my wife and thats with very extensive preperation.
To have enough food and water and stuff in the house that you could live for a full year for two people without any running water, electricity or food inputs and without leaving the house.
In most cases that have occured in human history, the right preparation would have made all the difference.
Even our ancient ancestors who lived within the blast radius of the last supervolcano eruption had some survivors. There will generally be some who survive even in absolute global catacylsms and those who prepare are far more likely to survive.
The fact we survived that explosion about 65000 years ago was a miracle, homo sapiens were down to only about 1000* pairs. However they still had a somewhat usable atmosphere despite the volcanic cloud cover that wouldve lasted a few years. Regardless of that they still had oceans, they were able to move away from destroyed areas and being only 2000 strong there wasnt much competition. Today is nothing like humans have ever seen before and its all happened mostly in the past 300 years, which geologically is not even measurable. Its like then than a billisecond of time and its not only the atmosphere thats fucked now, its the oceans, the population, how we've turned earth into a human centric society. But the biggest thing is once the oceans go stagnant the hole planet will come to a grinding halt. Elizabeth Kolberts book The 6th Extinction is a great read on it, as is a netflix documentary Cowspiracy (as dumb as the title sounds its a great non read on the subject), also read up on the U.N. climate studies and reports there are some that predict if current fishing keeps doing what its doing we have till around 2050 before the oceans become dead due to overfishing and agricultural runoff crating mass algae blooms. You'll come to the conclusion that no matter what you do a an individual there is no chance for us. Without air, food, water there is nothing you can do to prep. However these are all studies and there is room for error but as someone studying Environmental Sciences i just comfort myself with the fact that at least we get to live in one of the most unique periods of time, either me or my future kids will likely experience a major extinction.
Edit: a visualization to look at how bad things have gotten, we're f to u to ck to the ed http://www.susps.org/overview/numbers.html
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: MysticMoteToter]
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Thats why it is so important to begin prepping now, before the masses wake up to how dire the situation is, and stockpile food before it becomes too scarce and expensive.
Food prices are actually at a low right now, and even though we are almost out of fish you can still stock up on canned tuna and salmon at affordable prices.
Knowing that these things will become more expensive and scarce and demand will rise as supply falls, its simply common sense to stockpile everything you can now, to soften the journey ahead.
Perhaps by 2050 things will reach absolute crisis stage, so don't waste the intervening years. Prepare now.
And don't have children. We might just get to live out the full span of our lives in a good planet, but I wouldn't bet on the next two generations.
So don't have kids, and invest the 250 000 dollars it costs to raise a kid into survival supplies, then you can have a good chance to enjoy a decent full life and enough cushion to see you through when things get rocky.
At the very least the comfort of knowing you have a few hundred meals, a few hundred litres of drinking water and a few bottles of wine, bags of coffee, some kratom and weed, etc, so that when shit hits the fan you can sit back in comfort and enjoy the ride instead of frantically struggling with others to fight over scraps at the grocery store.
Once the news gets out there WILL be a mass panic rush to get supplies. Fuck that noise, I will prepare now and while others panic I will crack open a bottle of wine, lock my doors and load my guns.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
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Food doesn't mean anything when the planet is "dead" i.e. stagnant atmosphere and oceans, areas that are hot will become too hot to be livable and places are cold will be too cold to be livable. Also without ocean currents air will become stagnant and become unusable. No amount of prepping will save you unless you know where another earth is and have a spaceship to get there.....or you have a microclimate and then you'd have to live in there for the rest of your life. This won't be like it is in the movies dude, your not going to have a chance to become a road warrior or survive on your stockpiles, we will be more like a bunch of anchovies in a bucket thats not being replenished with oxygenated water. If you want to do something positive and actually have a chance at stopping/slowing a 6th extinction event we all just have to change our lifestyles. Watch Cowspiracy for a good idea on how you as an individual could actually make a difference, Read current climate report studies and I'd recommend Elizabeth Kolberts book The 6th Extinction to get a better grip on the worst case scenario what will happen Again, if it ever gets bad enough to need a bugout bag and its a true environmental catastrophe and not just a small scale event the best way out is a bullet in the brain.
Edit: visualize whats happening....were essentially turning our planet into Mars, and food, alcohol and other comforts wont do shit without a stable climate
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: MysticMoteToter]
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How are you going to store your water? Water in plastic bottles goes bad in a fairly short time.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Stonehenge]
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i'm going to read that over when im not running back and forth from the stove, but there's also studies that show our magnetic field effects climate. I'll find more info on it later, but because of our sun's quiet phase, meaning solar activity below norm. our magnectic field is not getting the energy it needs and that effects a few things in turn effecting our winds.
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