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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Prisoner#1] 1
#22244920 - 09/16/15 09:04 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: Honey bee populations, responsible for most of human food crops, are plummeting.
that's absolutely wrong, they've increased over the last 5 years to higher than they were prior to the colony collapse bullshit
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Mass die offs of fish, birds and animals are becoming increasingly common.
no, you're just hearing about them more because of the fear mongering and easy access of information now
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Enormous methane beds on the ocean floor are beginning to vent, which could cause a global extinction.
it's always been happening
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Ocean life is dying off at exponential rates, most commercial fish stocks are gone.
no, just more fear mongering by liberals for liberals
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Deforestation has reached epic levels, compromising Earths oxygen cycle.
once more, bullshit. there are more trees today than there was 50 years ago and the trees are not the major oxygen producer on this planet
you've got a whole pile of luke warm bullshit, you just keep on gobbling it up, live in fear if you want, I'd suggest you actually do a little reading on these topics, I know you wont so there's no point, if shit doesnt align with your paranoia and beliefs they you arent interested in hearing it
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And a bonus tip: Get a glass of red wine and add a tsp of turmeric powder. Drink this daily.
hahaha.. it's more effective to stuff whole lemons up your ass
Paid government shill.
Whatevs. Haters gonna hate.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Prisoner#1]
#22244961 - 09/16/15 09:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pris, you know I agree with you when you are right but about half of your rant here is correct and the rest is... bullshit. The oceans are indeed acidifying and losing not just coral reefs but also the fish populations are under great pressure. Even sharks are becoming more scarce. You may not care about your health but turmeric is a great herb and eating right is one of the keys to good health. But rant on, I can neither convince the right nor the left of anything since everyone is so firm in their opinions.
My catastrophe plan is to have physical gold and silver in the bank, plenty of food in the fridge and freezer, and a new car in the driveway. Also plenty to toke on, plenty of other goodies too. I'm set.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Stonehenge]
#22244970 - 09/16/15 09:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The big problem is everyone divides ideas by either left or right. Ideas are just ideas. Best to keep an open mind rather than immediately labeling and disregarding ones that might rustle the jimmies of your cognitive dissonance
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: nicechrisman]
#22245109 - 09/16/15 09:54 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Still, no actual, concrete plans for different scenarios from Moonshoe.
Are you preparing, or are you just hoarding survival gear and mistaking that for having plans?
E.g, the military doesn't prepare for contingencies just by hoarding weapons, and then feeling safer. They have actual scenarios ready for different events, and specifically plan along those lines. That's what I imagine anyway...
My only point is, no single bag can prepare you for all catastrophes.
However, if it simply makes you feel safe, then perhaps the psychological component is more important than the practical?
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I can't stand doomsdayers. Shit is so annoying, people so unhappy and bored with life they google any reason that confirms their own desire for everything to collapse so that life can be cool and interesting. It's sad really, a cry for help even
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Hanz]
#22245548 - 09/16/15 11:34 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes I have plans for different catastrophes , developed over years. Do you?
Prisoner1 I have done extremely extensive research on these topics. I wrote my graduate masters thesis on the global environmental crisis. Very few people have done more research on these issues then I have.
I hope you are right about some of what you say, sadly I know you are wrong about most of it.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Almond Flour]
#22245575 - 09/16/15 11:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Almond Flour said: I can't stand doomsdayers. Shit is so annoying, people so unhappy and bored with life they google any reason that confirms their own desire for everything to collapse so that life can be cool and interesting. It's sad really, a cry for help even
I agree with this.
I think it is a sad, lonely, depressing way to live constantly being in fear like that.
If a catastrophe happens I will die. Some stupid survival kit isn't gonna do anything but either way I am confident nothing bad will happen. Call me naiive but when you end up dying of old age you are gonna know I was right and you were just being paranoid Moonshoe.
Nothing is gonna happen bro the only thing that could happen in Canada is that the snow comes two weeks early! You are wasting your time.
I just wanna say that on the flip side, for a world population of 7 billion I think our society has actually done a great job and I think the outlook is gonna get even better. I think there will be a point where technology actually cuts down pollution and our society becomes more efficient and less wasteful.
You are such a negative nancy Moonshoe!
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
#22245651 - 09/16/15 11:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: Yes I have plans for different catastrophes , developed over years.
Prisoner1 I have done extremely extensive research on these topics. I wrote my graduate masters thesis on the global environmental crisis. Very few people have done more research on these issues then I have.
I hope you are right about some of what you say, sadly I know you are wrong about most of it.
none of this shit though is an "Earth killer". it's all stuff that can be solved. with all the stuff you know about this stuff, then you should be figuring out solutions right? but there are other people already doing that, as you should probably already know.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: akira_akuma]
#22245673 - 09/16/15 12:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Moonshoe acts like Canada is this big warzone with volcanos erupting and acid rain falling from the sky.
The biggest environmental catastrophe I have experienced here is people littering their cigarette buds all over the walking path!! Like geeze, stop doing that guys!
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22245686 - 09/16/15 12:02 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah, litter to the extreme. it's sad.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#22245711 - 09/16/15 12:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I stopped throwing my cigarettes out of my car window or in public places a long time ago. I think it's terrible even though the cotton and whatnot will degrade. You're not throwing burning pitch out of your window but you may as well start a forest fire while you're at it.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22245756 - 09/16/15 12:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Being prepared does not mean living in fear. Preparing does not mean you are afraid. In fact it means you feel calm, confident and secure that you are ready for anything and can then continue to enjoy your life knowing you have done the right thing for you and your loved ones.
Fear has nothing to do with it. Its about wisdom, foresight, logic, responsibility, self reliance, self sufficiency, competence, strength, discipline, awareness and capacity.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: akira_akuma]
#22245788 - 09/16/15 12:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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The threats to our global ecosphere are of existential magnitude and threaten human civilization as we know it as well as the majority of living species on earth. Many other threats such as an asteroid could also be planet killers. At the very least pervasive disasters and catastrophes are inevitable and already occurring.
It is better to be prepared then unprepared.
This simple fact is the whole truth of the matter. No rationalization or weak excuse will ever change this ironclad fact.
Canada is not impervious to natural disasters of cataclysmic events and it is only your legendary naïveté that leads you to adopt such a foolish complacency, bitter cactus.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
#22245795 - 09/16/15 12:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't see why having a bug-out bag or escape plan or disaster plan is bad. I can understand people going over the top with it.
We keep 5 grand cash, some fractional gold and silver, first aid kit and epi-pen, flares and the like. I need to go back through it and refresh some freeze dried food and water purification tablets. Some knives and two firearms with ammo. I mean, you never know. I like double checking it when we move to a new place. It doesn't hurt to have code words with a spouse or family member for "gtfo" or "I'm in danger" for when you can't say them out loud. Freak accidents happen.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Moonshoe]
#22245807 - 09/16/15 12:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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if a planet killer strikes us, wtf are you gonna do about it? 
well, look, good for you, you'll live in the end of the world for awhile. YAY!
i would give a fuck, i mean, it's the end of the world. we all die...what's the point of waiting when the world is over...plus, i'll survive too, for awhile...just like you...maybe not as long, but...for some time at least, and that's good enough.
and catastrophe's and disasters happen all the time, it does mean that anyone ever has ever had to bug out because of one and leave civilization. no.
and ecothreats are...well they aren't the end of the world, it's maybe a pervasive change, but it's nothing that "ends the world" as we know it, it may "change the world" as we know it, but it doesn't "end it".
the only thing i could think of that's a potential "ender" of civilization is nuclear war, which again...world's dead, who cares... what should i try and be one of the few who survive to somehow "re-stabilize" civilization and mate and like start it over again anew, and i'd feel like good about myself and live like Walden with my new family, back in pre-Christian times and happy again? that's quite a fairy tale.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: akira_akuma]
#22245837 - 09/16/15 12:29 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I would say the odds of Moonshoe needing his survival kit for anything other then a camping trip is like one in a trillion.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22245848 - 09/16/15 12:32 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I bet the people caught in the wildfires, the Utah floods, Syrian refugees or even as far back as Katrina victims would benefit from bug out bags.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Adden]
#22245863 - 09/16/15 12:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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but that isn't "global catastrophe".
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22245868 - 09/16/15 12:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I use my survival gear all the time. And yes I also use it for camping, and day to day life, and o have it ready for a catastrophe. The likelihood of a local disaster is significant but unknowable. The odds of a global catastrophe are 100%, the only question is when it will occur.
Everything in my stockpile is useful for day to day life, so none of it is wasted even if a disaster does not occur.
I recommend everyone listen to the two podcasts with Randall Carlson on Joe Rogan's Podcast, and listen to what Randall Carlson has to say.
You will learn a lot.
Most people know virtually nothing about the history of the planet, if you did you would realize that catastrophes on a global scale are frequent and inevitable.
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Re: Preparing for a possible global catastrophe [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#22245874 - 09/16/15 12:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah in mutually assured destruction nothing is really going to save you.
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