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Which psych to try next?
    #22240550 - 09/15/15 09:59 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So I have done lsd and mushies around 100-150 times total together. Salvia about 5 times, dxm way too much when I was younger, tried ayahuasca and dmt but didn't breakthrough or do enough.

Now I've been researching MDMA and mescaline. They both seem to intrigue me. Especially MDMA first since I've done a bunch of psychs this past year. But i know there are plenty others to try besides these two. What do you recommend experimenting with next? And do any psychs combine well together or does it just make it more confusing? Perhaps mdma with a psych or a benzo with a psych?? Any suggestions and or experiences are appreciated!  :smile:


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22240580 - 09/15/15 10:06 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

MDMA is definitely worth trying at least once.

If your molly is a white powder it's not MDMA.  Keep that in mind.


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22240620 - 09/15/15 10:16 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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And do any psychs combine well together or does it just make it more confusing?




LSDMT is pretty awesome :mindblown:

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Perhaps mdma with a psych or a benzo with a psych??




Benzos counteract psychs, don't combo them


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: Bugler Boy] * 1
    #22240690 - 09/15/15 10:34 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Psilohuasca, shrooms with harmala is awesome !
Nitrous+anything is pretty great too, just dont overdo it with the hippie crack

MDMA and its combos intrigue me aswell, just havent found a good supply of decent molly.


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: thoraxx] * 1
    #22240707 - 09/15/15 10:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Mescaline


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: ONE OZ SLUG]
    #22241636 - 09/15/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Mescaline



:whatshesaid:

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MDMA is definitely worth trying at least once.

If your molly is a white powder it's not MDMA.  Keep that in mind.



:whathesaid: It should look like small off-white/ slightly yellow colored rocks. That's how you know it is pure and hasn't been cut with anything. :thumbup:


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22241755 - 09/15/15 02:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I find LSD and shrooms combine pretty well. Havent combined large doses thou.

Mescaline cacti is amazing, and is worth trying, especially with weed for the Mescajuana experience.

And shrooms with weed edibles is an amazing combo. Super vivid CEVs, very psychedelic combo.

i would recommend LSA. Its LSDs more subtle, calmer cousin. But look into extractions to reduce stomach sickness.

Also, high dose LSA with a good hit of LSD is apparently an epic combo! Havent done it but want to soon.

And as mentioned, nitrous is awesome with anything.

If youre feeling brave, get into extracting freebase DMT. DMT is amazing and so intense, you will be in total awe. DMT is its own Universe within itself.


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #22241760 - 09/15/15 03:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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If youre feeling brave, get into extracting freebase DMT. DMT is amazing and so intense, you will be in total awe. DMT is its own Universe within itself.



So true. I started recently and now I can't do anything else.  DMT+10x enhanced caapi leaf = psychedelic crack.


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: ONE OZ SLUG]
    #22241776 - 09/15/15 03:07 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not quite ready for dmt in my opinion. Idk why just not quite there yet. I would be super scared to combine shrooms and acid lol. But molly and shrooms sounds fun. Acid is already so stimulating to add molly to it.

So next up I'm thinking mdma. Would it go well with weed? Perhaps molly, shrooms then weed later??? I still have a lot more research on mescaline to do, but that may be after trying mdma


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: ONE OZ SLUG]
    #22241798 - 09/15/15 03:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Hippyflip! :awesomenod: Shrooms with good strong X blew me away this summer. The synergy was perfect. Shrooms made the X a much more interesting and spiritual thing, on the other hand, the X prevented my from lapsing into that mushroom madness by keeping me up and around. They reinforced each other perfectly, and enhanced each others power.

My one regret is I was so out of my mind that I forgot to redose until it was too late. I never redose X after the peak, at the peak is best. But by that time I had lost all capability to plan a trip.

Really, give this one a try

Love, Hanz.


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: Hanz]
    #22241854 - 09/15/15 03:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If you like psychedelics, MDA is more preferable than MDMA in my experience.  I wish I could find MDA these days, had a lot of it back in college and it is IMO the Cadillac of empathogens, definitely harder to find than MDMA if you're not into the darknet.  None of the other empathogens I've had ever make me feel like I'm rolling, because to me MDA is the roll, everything else is missing a certain something.  Sometimes a high dose of mushrooms will give you that MDA-ish roll though. 

I am going to try mescaline for the first time this weekend, should be fun, I would definitely put it on your list, from what I've heard it is quite enjoyable.

And yeah, hippy flips and candy flips are awesome, definitely enjoy them more than straight MDMA.


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #22241879 - 09/15/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I've heard that mescaline can give you that MDMA-like feeling in very small doses. It seems to target similar receptors that make you feel like you're "rolling", but it's a completely different, unique experience. Go cactus!! :cactuar:


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: thoraxx]
    #22241885 - 09/15/15 03:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Psilohuasca, shrooms with harmala is awesome !
Nitrous+anything is pretty great too, just dont overdo it with the hippie crack

MDMA and its combos intrigue me aswell, just havent found a good supply of decent molly.




Psilohuasca is a cool idea.  I vote that! but not without *some lsa or lsd.  That's some serious shyit.  Use like, way too much Syrian rue or some vine.  You'd be in for something new that's for sure.


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #22241926 - 09/15/15 03:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Mescaline and mdma you should really go for.

Also if you liked the dxm trips try ketamine and/or mxe.


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: Hemuli]
    #22241967 - 09/15/15 04:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, seriously consider MXE. A very interesting, spiritual, and high-comfort psych.


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: Hemuli]
    #22241978 - 09/15/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

meth

jk lol, cactus sounds right. DMT with any psych is a good idea too. 

maybe psychedelic RCs? there is a shit tone of them that are different (4-aco-met ,4-aco-dmt, 4-ho-mipt, AL-LAD, ETH-LAD, 2CB, 2CE)


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #22242341 - 09/15/15 05:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

4-aco-dmt.

You could have white powder MDMA. I got an ounce from Canada via a market that was crushed up for shipping purposes. Was pretty much snow white and amongst the best MDMA I have ever had. 125mg was a strong dose. Possibly could have been mixed with something as your standard test kits only show you the majority of the chemical involved. However there is no arguing with the feeling. Was def MDMA.


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: highc]
    #22242698 - 09/15/15 06:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Hmm I will have to look into MDA vs MDMA. I like the euphoric and empathetic feelings the most. That's why I was thinking shrooms and mdma. But perhaps that's basically what mescaline is already...

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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22243022 - 09/15/15 07:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Couple weekends ago I combined 4g of slightly weak shrooms with three hits of acid (and redosing!) and a lot of molly. End of the night I was dancing in my underwear. Was awesome. I love festivals

Personally I like MDA better than Molly, but they also go together real nice. 80mg of MDA first and then when you get your first tingles, down goes 100-120mg (depends on your stuff) and then hang on.

DMT is not that big of a deal if you aren't breaking through. Most of the initial rush comes from the hype. Breakthroughs can be pretty freaky. I don't ascribe to the magic universe logic most spice heads do, but it is pretty jarring. Like a waking dream. Good for a go at least once.


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: ONE OZ SLUG]
    #22243777 - 09/15/15 10:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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MDMA is definitely worth trying at least once.

If your molly is a white powder it's not MDMA.  Keep that in mind.




This is true but if your molly is a crystal it also may not be mdma. Check out this documentary on youtube. Its titled "What's in my baggie". Damn near 50% of "mdma" is really just some sort of cathinones. Looks aren't a good enough way to tell with mdma. Test kit is a necessity.


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: ZeroBoyWD]
    #22248916 - 09/16/15 11:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I will try dmt eventually. Jus5 not for awhile. I kind of feel like mushrooms are to be the ultimate, most therapeutic and enjoyable psychedelic.  Perhaps that is because I haven't tried anyrhing much besides that and lsd in both high doses.

But shrooms have the euphoria, the excwitmebt, the closed eye visions and perfected patterns of imagination. With a sense of egotistical enlightenment. I will look more into low mda and mdma suggestions for now. Thanks for all the advice


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22264848 - 09/20/15 01:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

There was some talk of MXE in this thread. If you're interested you can read my latest trip report here.

Love, Hanz.


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: Hanz]
    #22265187 - 09/20/15 02:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Last weekend I candy flipped and smoked dmt on my peak of both. Was fucking other worldly


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22265563 - 09/20/15 03:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I've heard that mescaline can give you that MDMA-like feeling in very small doses. It seems to target similar receptors that make you feel like you're "rolling", but it's a completely different, unique experience. Go cactus!! :cactuar:



This is true, I had what turned out to be a pretty low dose of mescaline last night.  It was very roll-like with slight visuals, I was feeling underwhelmed so I added 50mg of some fire MDMA and smoked a bowl and it was fucking AMAZING.  Great combo.


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #22266507 - 09/20/15 07:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I've heard that mescaline can give you that MDMA-like feeling in very small doses. It seems to target similar receptors that make you feel like you're "rolling", but it's a completely different, unique experience. Go cactus!! :cactuar:



This is true, I had what turned out to be a pretty low dose of mescaline last night.  It was very roll-like with slight visuals, I was feeling underwhelmed so I added 50mg of some fire MDMA and smoked a bowl and it was fucking AMAZING.  Great combo.



That sounds awesome!! :vibin:


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22266577 - 09/20/15 07:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If you ever get the chance I would say DOM is worth trying, one of few RC's I have tried and one of few I a interested in trying again :lol:

It is definitely meant for experienced psych users though as it can easily last half a day to a day :tongue2:

That is a whole lot of time to do a ton of fun stuff though.

Also besides psiloyausca oral dmt is a must at somepoint IMO. Lower doses are like a super clean mushroom trip and higher doses get way further out.

Though I have not even dabbled with it much, I still think it is much more worth while than smoking dmt.

As with everything though some caution is always important, pharmayuasca and DOM both are sort of infamous for being intense mainly from people overdoing it.


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: Hanz]
    #22268307 - 09/21/15 07:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Fuck DOM. Weird shit. Took 3 hits years ago. Took forever to kick in and lasted way too long. Cool visuals but just felt kinda nauseous and weird the whole day. But. I noticed it had kicked in when I threw up, looked in the mirror, and saw my eyeballs switch places... then thought I was stuck in a world of mirrors. Sounds cooler than it really was. Definitely not as safe as traditional lsd which was what I was told it was initially

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Last weekend I candy flipped and smoked dmt on my peak of both. Was fucking other worldly




You are brave sir. Maybe one day I will join you lol.

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There was some talk of MXE in this thread. If you're interested you can read my latest trip report here.

Love, Hanz.




I'm a little nervous about mxe. Did it cause any anxiety for you? Sounds like it may be rough on the nervous system too. I used to do a bunch of dxm years ago like an idiot and I tried K 3 years ago and had a weird skin reaction. So idk if dissociatives are for me anymore...


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22268438 - 09/21/15 08:46 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I don't like to snort my high....doesn't feel real entheogenic..:shrug:

....for me...anything not a plant feels like I'm just "doing drugs"...:pipesmoke:

....mushrooms fly me though ancient temples and lost jungles...:wonka:

...I really feel I can go as far as possible on plant substances :bigyesnod:


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #22268703 - 09/21/15 10:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Mescaline, but don't try the chemicals just yet (2Cx/DOx/25x). Or peyote. Just cut a foot through the corr, pull out the spines, slice off the skin (or cut into stars and peel off the edges). I'd just consume the flesh on a well fasted stomach. Prepare for a slow comeup with nausea, and a possibly exhilarating dancing high, with potentially brilliant colors you've never seen before. With peyote, it gets to a hallucinogenic/transport level, and extreme does of the related chemicals the same. If you do go the chemical route, just prepare for an instant comeup and FREEBASE! Do not eat/snort or deal with serious health side effects like vasoconstriction, tremors, sweats, nausea, the chills, and heart pains.


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: slacknsurf420]
    #22269600 - 09/21/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

2c-b if you can find it, mdma, mda, and DEFINITELY DMT.


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: Modizu]
    #22269661 - 09/21/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

MDMA is amazing.

It's pretty much my favorite drug. You need to try it as soon as possible.


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    #22269765 - 09/21/15 02:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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MDMA is amazing.

It's pretty much my favorite drug. You need to try it as soon as possible.



It used to be mine as well, until I abused it more than I should and now I have lost the magic completely.

It sucks. But it is one of the best drugs IMO. Just don't abuse it more than you should because once you lose the magic it doesn't come back.

I did 200mg mda a couple years back, I mean I was rolling pretty hard but it just wasn't that enjoyable, it was just meh, to be honest.

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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: Modizu]
    #22269772 - 09/21/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

How badly did you abuse it? And how often did you roll and can you count the amount of times you've rolled?


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22269862 - 09/21/15 02:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Fuck DOM. Weird shit. Took 3 hits years ago. Took forever to kick in and lasted way too long. Cool visuals but just felt kinda nauseous and weird the whole day. But. I noticed it had kicked in when I threw up, looked in the mirror, and saw my eyeballs switch places... then thought I was stuck in a world of mirrors. Sounds cooler than it really was. Definitely not as safe as traditional lsd which was what I was told it was initially





Well how strong of hits were they for one? I took one and a half hits awhile back of around 2.5 mg hits and had a great time. Got a bit nauseous too but I blame that on the shitty food I ate before hand mostly. Did you go out in nature at all or meditate? Listen to any crazy music? DOM made all of those things wonderful when I was on it. Parts of the experience felt like a lucid dream. Music was very very enhanced, definitely an interesting substance imo. Out of all the DOx's it is the only one that ever really interested m.


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: Janky Tits]
    #22269968 - 09/21/15 03:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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How badly did you abuse it? And how often did you roll and can you count the amount of times you've rolled?




Pretty bad, would roll 2-3 times a month for a good year or two straight...
And I would estimate the total number of times to be anywhere from 200-300 times total...


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: Modizu]
    #22272110 - 09/21/15 11:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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How badly did you abuse it? And how often did you roll and can you count the amount of times you've rolled?




Pretty bad, would roll 2-3 times a month for a good year or two straight...
And I would estimate the total number of times to be anywhere from 200-300 times total...



Damnn that's a lot :chriswalken:


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: Modizu]
    #22272789 - 09/22/15 06:30 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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How badly did you abuse it? And how often did you roll and can you count the amount of times you've rolled?




Pretty bad, would roll 2-3 times a month for a good year or two straight...
And I would estimate the total number of times to be anywhere from 200-300 times total...



I can relate to that a lot. I used to love mdma, but after using it 2-4 times shit sometimes more in a month its definitely lost its magic for me as well. I took about 150mg a month or so ago and it had me rolling but I just felt uncombfortable and wasn't really enjoying the experience anymore.


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: phishindub]
    #22272864 - 09/22/15 07:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Explain "rolling "....like salvia?...physically? ...I'm not into it...but curious about this rolling thing....:llamastare:


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #22272904 - 09/22/15 07:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I may have taken too much DOM, too young, not quite prepared and thought it was lsd. I did walk through the park though which was somewhat nice, just not like my true love lucy haha.

I will be sure to try mdma and maybe mda after I do my research. Mescaline maybe. Dmt definitely when I'm ready... if ever. I mean I will when I die at least lol no choice


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    #22272907 - 09/22/15 07:39 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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2c-b if you can find it, mdma, mda, and DEFINITELY DMT.



Oh and what is 2c-b like? Heard some good things about that series but very skeptical about RCs such as nbome. Fuck that shit. Plus it's not new and not researched as well as lsd or have a natural history such as plant entheogens


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22272915 - 09/22/15 07:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

And while we're on the topic of new RCs, what's up with 1p-LSD?


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: voodoochild1000]
    #22274289 - 09/22/15 02:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Explain "rolling "....like salvia?...physically? ...I'm not into it...but curious about this rolling thing....:llamastare:



It's not at all similar to salvia. It's an empathogen, so it increases the feeling of connectedness to others. Physically, it feels like impulses of energy flowing through your body like mini waves that are stimulating and euphoric. All your senses are heightened and the world just "feels" like a better place. Even the most mundane activities are super exciting and you love everyone around you. It's one of the best highs out there IMO. Just don't abuse it, and the MDMAzing feeling will always be something you'll look forward to, trust me. :super:


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22274518 - 09/22/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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There was some talk of MXE in this thread. If you're interested you can read my latest trip report here.

Love, Hanz.




I'm a little nervous about mxe. Did it cause any anxiety for you? Sounds like it may be rough on the nervous system too. I used to do a bunch of dxm years ago like an idiot and I tried K 3 years ago and had a weird skin reaction. So idk if dissociatives are for me anymore...




Did MXE twice now, and was a sitter twice. From what I know there is no anxiety at all

It is even a bit strange, the lack of anxiety. It was only when I did MXE that I found that when I'm high on a substance (any substance), I take the level of anxiety as an indicator how hard it hits. So at first I thought the MXE was not working... believe me, it was!

No seriously, it's wonderful, but it is relatively new stuff, no extensive animals tests AFAIK, not developed by a big pharma, etc, ...

I can understand you being anxious about it, and I am too, but when you're high on it, you're definitely not anxious any more.


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22274751 - 09/22/15 03:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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2c-b if you can find it, mdma, mda, and DEFINITELY DMT.



Oh and what is 2c-b like? Heard some good things about that series but very skeptical about RCs such as nbome. Fuck that shit. Plus it's not new and not researched as well as lsd or have a natural history such as plant entheogens



Best way I can describe 2c-b is just eye candy. Purely visual, with some euphoria. But little to no mind fuckery. Z
A great psych if you just want to sit back and relax, and take in everything visual around you.

Honestly it's one of the only psychs I'd do again.  (I'm not really into psychedelics)


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: Modizu]
    #22274775 - 09/22/15 03:50 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

2c-e has interested me in the past, and 2c-p I think. Sounded like some pretty crazy stuff.

What about like mescaline or aya or pharmayahuasca, or mushrooms and or shroomayahusca. So many amazing ancient magical things out there :heart:


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    #22275598 - 09/22/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So little anxiety on the 2c-series you say?? That's what always bothered me with traditional psychs sometimes


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22275842 - 09/22/15 07:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Anxiety with drugs has more to do with the person IMO.

Of course altering your brain chemistry can cause anxiety too though, or make it worse.

I have had some of the most intense euphoria of my life from classical psychs which have also caused me incredible anxiety in different settings :shrug:


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: musiclover420]
    #22277764 - 09/23/15 08:14 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Anxiety with drugs has more to do with the person IMO.

Of course altering your brain chemistry can cause anxiety too though, or make it worse.

I have had some of the most intense euphoria of my life from classical psychs which have also caused me incredible anxiety in different settings :shrug:



True that. I'd mostly get pretrip jitters and comeup anxiety due to uncertainty to how pure my L was or simila4 ( DN these days so no worries), but mostly because I know what could come next and it has potential to get bad if I'm not prepared. So yes, depends on my state and situation mostly.

I've had trips like out in a cabin with my best friend tripping on 500 ish mcg and had the time of my life, no anxiety. I've also taken it recreationally and too often and had rough times on 200 mcg. So I've learned the hard way to show some more respect to the set and setting and not use as often. Same exact thing with shrooms. Hell I've had rough moments on 0.5 and nothing but euphoria mostly on 2-4 gram trips.

I remember buying 20 hits off a friend/street. First trip was amazinggggg since I hadn't done it in so long. But then I tripped like once a week for 2 months and each trip got worse and worse. I was just so damn interested in the philosophy behind the experience that i kept wanting to trip and became obsessive almost which. I got really deep into researching the impurity debate aND its effects on your trip which heightened my anxiety in general already, but in reality it was all in my head. Still made me never desire L from the street again though. Stuff I get now I know beyond a doubt is 97% pure and is the best I "think" I've ever had. Mostly because I can trust this source completely and I won't use L more than once a month or two months max with extended breaks too from all psychs.


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Re: Which psych to try next? [Re: Heisencybin]
    #22278985 - 09/23/15 01:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds like we have had some similiar experiences :thumbup:


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