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BrendanFlock
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Maybe a real man is a romantic?
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sudly
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RJ Tubs 202 said: Women don't want to be man handled
Men love to be woman handled
Kink variety is quite astounding, and the suffix of some is rather important.
Dunno if the word is a suffix, but the word some is important!
Can't generalise women or men.
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redgreenvines
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BrendanFlock said: Maybe a real man is a romantic?
totally
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RJ Tubs 202



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A romantic person is willing to regularly show how much they love and adore the focus of their affection.
Do both men and women want to be adored, and in the same fashion?
To be adored means to have admiration or respect . . . hmmm
I'm not 100% sure I want or need to be admired or adored.
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redgreenvines
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RJ Tubs 202 said: . . . hmmm
I'm not 100% sure I want or need to be admired or adored.
then why have a cute girl as your avatar?
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GenesisCorrupted
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I would say being adored, is something everyone seeks. In the same way. Because it means the same thing for everyone.
To be loved.
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ballsalsa
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RJ Tubs 202 said:
I'm not 100% sure I want or need to be admired or adored.
I wouldn't worry too much about that...
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In my life I want to be adored by a few people. I don't care about being adored by many.
When I'm with people I adore I dress well. When I'm not I wear paint splattered jeans and old tee shirts.
I think wanting to be adored is a feminine quality. Adoring, a masculine quality. A man/woman will want some of both but wanting to be adored by all leans feminine. Painted nails, makeup, delicate fabrics, frills and lace. Or maybe just designer leather in a casual setting.
Macho leans feminine imo.
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Re: What is a "real" man? [Re: ballsalsa] 1
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there are a range of experiences i think of as adoration, some seem natural and healthy to me and some seem way off.
like if it becomes obssevive yeah somethings off. or if its only adoration and the person doesn't have any issues with me, somethings off. or if its not authentic, like some weird syrupy sweet ugh..
|but when someone sees me and appreciates that, delights in it and its authentic, to me that just indicates a positive connection between us, and I can feel grateful that someone appears to see and appreciate me enought to want to relate.
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GenesisCorrupted
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Re: What is a "real" man? [Re: Rahz]
#28589558 - 12/19/23 09:44 AM (1 month, 10 days ago) |
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So you don’t adore anything because it’s not masculine? I adore art. Does the art need to be masculine for me to adore it? Why are you adding limitations to what can and cannot be adored?
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Rahz
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GenesisCorrupted said: So you don’t adore anything because it’s not masculine? I adore art. Does the art need to be masculine for me to adore it? Why are you adding limitations to what can and cannot be adored?
I didn't say what you think I said.
I don't know what "masculine art" would be.
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durian_2008
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BrendanFlock said: Maybe a real man is a romantic?
Are we talking about Romanticism as opposed to Modernism?
Or, are we talking courtly love, in which a minstrel of lower, social class hoped to have sex above his station, so should lay his coat upon a mud puddle?
I can agree to the premise of first wave feminism, in which household needs come before his nightlife. Whose household, under whose name?
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GenesisCorrupted
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Re: What is a "real" man? [Re: Rahz]
#28589572 - 12/19/23 10:03 AM (1 month, 10 days ago) |
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You said that to adore something is a feminine quality. I think anyone can adore anything if they feel like it. I have an example of masculine art. All perception. Doesn’t matter what something is. It can be adored.
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can we define our terms instead of assuming we're all on the same page? masculine and feminine are terms that are used differently by different people.
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Rahz
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GenesisCorrupted said: You said that to adore something is a feminine quality. I think anyone can adore anything if they feel like it.
Actually I said wanting to be adored is a feminine quality. I think anyone can adore anything if they feel like it.
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Re: What is a "real" man? [Re: Rahz]
#28589596 - 12/19/23 10:27 AM (1 month, 10 days ago) |
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Now I like that a lot better. But isn’t being loved, being adored? So if seeking to be adored is to want love. I don’t see that as being inherently feminine.
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RJ Tubs 202



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redgreenvines said:
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RJ Tubs 202 said:
. . . hmmm
I'm not 100% sure I want or need to be admired or adored.
then why have a cute girl as your avatar?
Roald Dahl's character Veruca Salt is a cold, manipulative, arrogant snob.
I've concluded I'm more comfortable adoring someone than being adored.
The Latin roots of the term "adoration" includes "worship" and "beg"
I think I prefer the term "cherish"
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durian_2008
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GenesisCorrupted said: You said that to adore something is a feminine quality. I think anyone can adore anything if they feel like it. I have an example of masculine art. All perception. Doesn’t matter what something is. It can be adored.
For instance, are you enamored with it, is it a status symbol, plowhorse, or brood mare?
If some worthless thing has just caught your fancy, your emotions will be fickle, and that is traditionally a feminine quality or of a gigolo.
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durian_2008
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RJ Tubs 202 said:
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redgreenvines said:
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RJ Tubs 202 said:
. . . hmmm
I'm not 100% sure I want or need to be admired or adored.
then why have a cute girl as your avatar?
Roald Dahl's character Veruca Salt is a cold, manipulative, arrogant snob.
I've concluded I'm more comfortable adoring someone than being adored.
The Latin roots of the term "adoration" includes "worship" and "beg"
I think I prefer the term "cherish"
In an older way of speaking, reverence.
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Blue_Lux
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Is adoration not just love? To really adore someone and to be adored is love. my husband and I are nuts and we have this silly thing we do to each other where if he says I'm beautiful or something I immediately deny it as if I'm refusing to accept it. and then it gets flipped back on him and then there are even more jokes like "You're just trying to be on top this time... I know what you're going for." and on and on. Our homosexual dynamic is really something psychologically androgynous in the Jungian sense. There is another joke, but I can't say it lmao. It is very interesting however that it relates to the myth of Enkidu and Gilgamesh, as you know Enkidu is from the barren woods and Gilgamesh is socially cultivated. I call the adoring vs the being adored the emphatic vs the acquiescent, and this is really what governs many sexual relationships. It isn't necessarily top and bottom or male and female, as for instance the phenomenon of a "power bottom." but I digress
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