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ballsalsa
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Re: What is a "real" man? [Re: Blue_Lux]
#28585878 - 12/16/23 06:51 PM (1 month, 12 days ago) |
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She probably means that homeless people are created through neglect but maybe not.
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Blue_Lux
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Re: What is a "real" man? [Re: ballsalsa]
#28585882 - 12/16/23 06:52 PM (1 month, 12 days ago) |
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whose neglect? ...
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loladoreen


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I think neglecting a humans basic needs can cause them to act out
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GenesisCorrupted
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Re: What is a "real" man? [Re: loladoreen]
#28585942 - 12/16/23 07:16 PM (1 month, 12 days ago) |
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If you back someone into a corner, they’re going to do anything they can to get out of it.
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Freedom
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Quote:
redgreenvines said: Are we talking about Bullies - alpha males, because some life forms have evolved that way.
In other instances pairs couple for life, and in others lone individuals find each other by scent when they need to. The mating scene for giant Australian cuttlefish (Sepia apama) is rife with fighting and deception. Small males often scoop their much larger counterparts by pretending to be female themselves, which allows the runts to get closer to females of reproductive age.
So bullying isn't the only way for male success, and deception also isn't the only way, but some people still seem to act like moose and cuttlefish.
the alpha male theory i've heard is that wolf packs are led by the toughest male, which is determined by fighting.
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GenesisCorrupted said: If you back someone into a corner, they’re going to do anything they can to get out of it.
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Re: What is a "real" man? [Re: Blue_Lux]
#28585968 - 12/16/23 07:25 PM (1 month, 12 days ago) |
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Blue_Lux said: A stray cat is the fault of people. Their behavior is very strange... female cats will try to have sex with a human being. Dolphins do this. Dogs do it. I had a female cat who was not fixed... it was so utterly annoying it made me want to punt her like the patriots at the Superbowl. She would constantly spin around backwards and get in the most annoying looking position ever with her tail swishing and her butt in the air. I swear even the look in her eyes was different. And you could tell the affection she wanted was really complete mania and that made it even more annoying. But anyway. Negligence creates stray animals. We made them look like that and behave like that. Spay and neuter domesticated pets unless you're a breeder or know how to train. I hate to see stray animals.
lions are the only cats that live in groups. all others are solitary for the most part (in the 'wild')
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GenesisCorrupted said: If you back someone into a corner, they’re going to do anything they can to get out of it.
or give up
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loladoreen


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Hopefully not give up But You are right
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Re: What is a "real" man? [Re: Freedom] 2
#28586030 - 12/16/23 08:20 PM (1 month, 12 days ago) |
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Freedom said:
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Blue_Lux said: A stray cat is the fault of people. Their behavior is very strange... female cats will try to have sex with a human being. Dolphins do this. Dogs do it. I had a female cat who was not fixed... it was so utterly annoying it made me want to punt her like the patriots at the Superbowl. She would constantly spin around backwards and get in the most annoying looking position ever with her tail swishing and her butt in the air. I swear even the look in her eyes was different. And you could tell the affection she wanted was really complete mania and that made it even more annoying. But anyway. Negligence creates stray animals. We made them look like that and behave like that. Spay and neuter domesticated pets unless you're a breeder or know how to train. I hate to see stray animals.
lions are the only cats that live in groups. all others are solitary for the most part (in the 'wild')
Just sayin, tigers have been known to follow a female for up to two weeks or until she's ovulating then go at it a dozen times a day for a week.
Tigers don't give up!
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Re: What is a "real" man? [Re: sudly] 1
#28586042 - 12/16/23 08:28 PM (1 month, 12 days ago) |
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sudly said:
Just sayin, tigers have been known to follow a female for up to two weeks or until she's ovulating then go at it a dozen times a day for a week.
Tigers don't give up!
tru dat life, ugh, finds a way 
pretty amazing that we are part of that way
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So I need to find a tiger while ovulating? Lol
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Re: What is a "real" man? [Re: Freedom] 1
#28586357 - 12/17/23 05:49 AM (1 month, 12 days ago) |
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Freedom said: I think most animals, including humans are territorial and will tend to see strangers as threats. they will defend their territory instinctually, but this isn't a dominance heirarchy thing, its a stay off my land thing
edit: maybe not most animals. many animals, im not sure on the percentages. well at least a bunch of animals.
Alex would smack my other cat if she tried to go out the door first. He would sometimes stall going out to see if she would try to go out first.
Until he was old he wanted to dominate me. Alex was a bully.
That being said, he couldn't help getting excited and acting that way whatever the reason. You never know what's happened to shelter cats, though I suppose reactions to abuse vary.
The other cat I mentioned, she was a scaredy cat, more likely to run and hide at any human/dog presence and non-confrontational toward other cats.
Interestingly, the other cat liked to sleep on me. However, could not tolerate being held for even a moment. Alex only slept on me once. After spending several hours battling another cat he crawled on my lap and collapsed. But he loved being held while I was standing. You could grab him and walk around and I think he felt like he was important or on a ride or just liked the view.
Cats are like people. You get a little bit of everything. In this instance the male was aggressive and the female was not. That's not always the case but is typical. I had a normal cat once. He was neither shy nor aggressive. Cool as a cucumber, nice as could be.
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Re: What is a "real" man? [Re: Rahz]
#28586391 - 12/17/23 06:30 AM (1 month, 12 days ago) |
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I'm not accusing every last person on Earth of being beta, but most in my decaying neighborhood are like orphaned kittens that need to be told where to go and what to do.
They explicitly do not like to be made responsible for things, in their own words, and say how they need someone to motivate and pressure them, sometimes.
There is a kind of useful idiot, voluntarily. I'm assuming that the authority does have some narcissistic tendencies.
Both sides see it for what it really is and are into it, mutually.
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loladoreen said:
I think neglecting a humans basic needs can cause them to act out
Imagine millions of apes alone in caves watching porn 
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GenesisCorrupted said:
Women are capable of anything a man is. With very few exceptions.
So, women are capable of almost anything a man can do.
One reason people react to this type of statement you make is that it fuels the constant message of oppression and victimization - implying there are huge numbers of people who are misogynistic - and men who hate and "look down" on women. (All while ignoring the skyrocketing misandry. You never hear that term on TV!)
It's similar to the continuous messaging - "blacks rising up from the ashes of oppression" and the problems with "whiteness" and "systemic racism" and on and on. This type of constant messaging implies there is a big battle being waged. One group against another. Good versus evil.
It's causing societal disintegration
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Re: What is a "real" man? [Re: Nichrome] 1
#28586403 - 12/17/23 06:40 AM (1 month, 12 days ago) |
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OrgoneConclusion said: Women also want a man unafraid to show his feelings, but real men don't show their feelings, but they are awesome with a six gun.

Also real men don't take any shit from their women.

https://thepowermoves.com/shit-tests/
I am not promoting myself as a pickup artist, but there's a word for this. The shit test.
Sometimes, people want a performance of vulgar aggression.
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durian_2008
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To be clear, I am calling this venal posturing.
Some people are basically brutes, and this gives them a sense of structure.
If you don't play the role, they find someone who will.
Like with animals. I am calling this something animals do.
I can walk across town on any hot evening, and it's the old Jerry Springer show, outside every third or fourth house. The sun rises and sets by these mannerisms, for much of the town.
If you work outside and also in the office people are putting themselves in these stupid displays.
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Great clip of Worf!!!
Notice how few words are uttered during the 60 seconds . . .
That's some good shit there - words really get in the way sometimes
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durian_2008
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I'm showing silly examples from space movies, because it's that ridiculous to me.
Some people are absolutely getting you there, and they act subtly disappointed if you don't follow through.
There is a primitive part of people's brain, and they do expect it, on that level.
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