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OfflineRosen_Rot
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1 Jar Spawn *UPDATE*
    #22239856 - 09/15/15 06:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I wanted to give a quick update on my small 5L ice-cream tub thai spawn. I am counting roughly 10 pins. Yes I am aware of metabs ( fruited late cause of late night work ). Tub still smells of fresh mushrooms. I had way worse metabs/bacteria before and I still managed to go to 4th flush.

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Re: 1 Jar Spawn *UPDATE* [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #22240197 - 09/15/15 08:31 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

i love how frosty the pins look. and the actual mycelium looks really leathery, should be a good batch  :gumby:


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Re: 1 Jar Spawn *UPDATE* [Re: Tweakz]
    #22240208 - 09/15/15 08:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Looks like its been sprinkled with icing sugar :biggrin: I'm really excited to find out how they will come out looking :inlove3:


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Re: 1 Jar Spawn *UPDATE* [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #22240238 - 09/15/15 08:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

It looks a tad dry.

Koh Samui Super Strain? Those guys are gonna be chewy :lol:


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Re: 1 Jar Spawn *UPDATE* [Re: taGyo]
    #22240279 - 09/15/15 08:50 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Should I spray? I had puddles of water on the surface which were there for a day then I drained it after realizing it was not evaporating. That and the late fruiting time is what I think to have caused metabs to form on the surface.

and yes Koh Samui super strain


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Re: 1 Jar Spawn *UPDATE* [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #22240289 - 09/15/15 08:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I would honestly give that a light misting and tighten up my top holes. "Leathery" mycelium normally means that it's dry, you really don't want to get to that stage. Once it starts to yellow/orange over it's almost (Or is) dead.

Metabs don't happen if you fruit late as far as I know :shrug:, my first tub I pretty much let it pin while colonizing and then fruited and didn't have contam issues. Metabs are either bacteria (Or some sort of contam) or stress. In this case I'd say it was stress.

There's a fine balance between FAE and maintaining your environment. You want the sub to naturally have tiny beads of moisture all over it but not pooling water or those leathery spots you have.


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Re: 1 Jar Spawn *UPDATE* [Re: taGyo]
    #22240656 - 09/15/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The FAE holes are as tight as can be. I switched off the fan in the room and tightened one of the top holes as well as gave it a light misting. Hopefully that should do the trick.

This was a small tub and while colonization a lot of water collected on the top of myc that formed pools. I did not notice and was left there for several days so that's what I am assuming how the metabs formed. Pools of water -> bacteria swimming pool

I'll continue misting it everday and give it 15mins of sunshine.


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Re: 1 Jar Spawn *UPDATE* [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #22249618 - 09/17/15 05:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I started to see gills on the stubs of mushrooms. They have not fully grown but remained a button. The gills are exposed so I am assuming this is their mature state. Should I cut them off the cake ?

Such a waste. I think they are aborts.


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Re: 1 Jar Spawn *UPDATE* [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #22249635 - 09/17/15 05:52 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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I started to see gills on the stubs of mushrooms. They have not fully grown but remained a button. The gills are exposed so I am assuming this is their mature state. Should I cut them off the cake ?

Such a waste. I think they are aborts.




Those aren't aborts, they're fruits that are trying to overcome a pretty gnarly bacterial infection.

A bacterial infection will cause irregularities/mutations in growth. Looks like what you got going on there.


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Re: 1 Jar Spawn *UPDATE* [Re: Bugler Boy]
    #22249689 - 09/17/15 06:30 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So what can I do? So far I mist once a day and give them 15-30minutes of natural sunlight.

Seeing as the gills are already open I am not expecting them to grow much bigger. Should I chop them off the cake and let other fruits grow?


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Re: 1 Jar Spawn *UPDATE* [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #22249696 - 09/17/15 06:35 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Rosen_Rot said:
So what can I do?




You can try again :shrug:


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Re: 1 Jar Spawn *UPDATE* [Re: Bugler Boy]
    #22249714 - 09/17/15 06:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So that's it? Throw away the tub?


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Re: 1 Jar Spawn *UPDATE* [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #22250395 - 09/17/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Looks like a dried out stressed tub, harvest whats ready and see what else comes of it


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Re: 1 Jar Spawn *UPDATE* [Re: cronicr]
    #22252218 - 09/17/15 05:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I've got about 10 more pins coming out. I'll cut the stubs out.

Is there anything I can do to de-stress them?

As far as I know I got things in order. I mist twice a day. Got a fan on 24/7 pointing away from the tub. The tub is tuned in with polyfill. Windows are open. Temperature is around 80F. And I have an 18 LED blue/light spectrum light strip at 6500K +

I was thinking of adding perlite around the bottom. I think the tub is stressed cause of the large empty surface area around it.


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Re: 1 Jar Spawn *UPDATE* [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #22252818 - 09/17/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Turn the fan off because it's not helping you. You may have a naturally dry environment.

Dial in your tub without the fan. Just follow frank's tek but don't use the fan. This will lead to very loose top holes and tight bottom holes. That's fine because what you have going on now is waaaay too much FAE. Like Cron said, harvest what you can and when you're ready for a second flush give it a nice, long dunk.

Look up Chief Tribunal Dunk Tek

This may not revitalize some of that myc though but it's a start for the moisture that's been lost. Then on the second flush remove the fan and dial it in again.


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Re: 1 Jar Spawn *UPDATE* [Re: taGyo]
    #22254556 - 09/18/15 05:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Our environment is humid naturally, 60% on average per annum. Right now I just removed all of the mutated shrooms. No normal shrooms have popped up, just mutants and a couple of pins here and there. Do I dunk now?

I have done a mono before, I know how to dial in a tub and dunk.

EDIT; I have dunked the tub for 1hr and 30mins. I tightened the top holes more to hold the moisture and restrict the amount of FAE. I also added a thin layer of vermiculite on the bottom of the monotub and the small tub of mushrooms is sitting on it. Hopefully this will add more humidity into the air.


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Re: 1 Jar Spawn *UPDATE* [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #22255032 - 09/18/15 08:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

The vermiculite isn't going to do anything.

The important thing is to turn off the fan and then dial it in. You want tiny beads of moisture all along your sub naturally. You probably won't get it all along but take a pic and I'll let you know what's optimal.


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Re: 1 Jar Spawn *UPDATE* [Re: taGyo]
    #22256984 - 09/18/15 04:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Thank you for the help and offering advice :biggrin: I really appreciate it

Won't moist vermiculite help to keep the humidity in?

As I mentioned the fan is off and dialed in the top holes tighter


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Re: 1 Jar Spawn *UPDATE* [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #22257018 - 09/18/15 04:45 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Not on the bottom of the sub.


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Re: 1 Jar Spawn *UPDATE* [Re: taGyo]
    #22269025 - 09/21/15 11:37 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

This is what grew after the dunk. I am guessing the tub is still stressed but conditions have improved in some way. The mushrooms are growing small in size and opening early. I am guessing the infection is bigger than I thought for them to trigger their spore release response. I am not sure whether the size of the tub is also responsible for the size of the shroom.

Either way something is growing and there is a lot of psilocybin when harvesting. I usually experience a blue ring which fades into the center. This time when harvesting the stem is turning blue/blue-black







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Re: 1 Jar Spawn *UPDATE* [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #22277500 - 09/23/15 05:38 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Some more updates on the tub's progression. Just harvest these this morning. Gave the tub another dunk for 1hour 30mins





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Re: 1 Jar Spawn *UPDATE* [Re: Rosen_Rot]
    #22277768 - 09/23/15 08:15 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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