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Elganzoury
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How long till this tray colonizes?
#22239794 - 09/15/15 05:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey Folks,
got this tiny jar few weeks ago.

i made it that tiny as i was just bored and decided to watch the cycle in a short period, so when it was colonized, i decided to spawn it to a bulk substrate, i used 50:50 peat and vermiculite TEK, that was exactly on the 3rd of September, then i waited for 10 days and opened for the first time, to find this:

waited for another 2 days, today, i opened and found this:

this is the size of the tray for whoever may be wondering

i let the tray colonize in a temperature between 25.5-27C and the humidity is between 47-67%, i let it colonize in a top shelf in my room, exposed to light normally, my question is, how long should i wait, according to this growth rate, this is my first bulk grow ever, i'm building my SGFC.
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Re: How long till this tray colonizes? [Re: Elganzoury]
#22239804 - 09/15/15 05:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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If that is cased, then its ready for the fruiting. If not I'd give it 4-5 more days.
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Re: How long till this tray colonizes? [Re: taytayjunkay]
#22239809 - 09/15/15 05:50 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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no its not cased, and i opened it 3 times so far, so i need not to open it again to allow for CO2 build up, so thanks, i will leave it for 4 or 5 days (Y)
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Re: How long till this tray colonizes? [Re: Elganzoury]
#22239814 - 09/15/15 05:56 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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That won't colonize. Peat and verm are a casing layer not a bulk sub. Might as well fruit now
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Elganzoury
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that's a point to be considered too! so are they ready to fruit not? cuz the rhizomorphic mycelium is everywhere, it has definitely reached the top, i thought i need to cover it completely like any other bulk grow.
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Re: How long till this tray colonizes? [Re: Elganzoury]
#22239843 - 09/15/15 06:22 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh damn dude. I should've read your post thoroughly. He is right, verm and peat are not substrate, for they don't have any nutrients. Fruit right away. I would also take some of the mycelium and inoculate some jars.
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Re: How long till this tray colonizes? [Re: taytayjunkay]
#22239895 - 09/15/15 06:51 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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oh really? wow! btw, i have some jars cooling after PCing, so, if i take some mycelium, how much should i take? and just using gloves? btw, the jars are all BRF :/ so i can't shake them
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Re: How long till this tray colonizes? [Re: Elganzoury]
#22239915 - 09/15/15 07:04 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ah, well you should just go ahead and follow standard procedure then. You won't be able to use the mycelium in the brf jars since if you opened them they'd be at major risk of contamination. Although you could give it a shot on one jar, if you have plenty. It will only take a small amount of mycelium. Like a quarter sized piece. Anyway good luck.
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Re: How long till this tray colonizes? [Re: taytayjunkay]
#22239921 - 09/15/15 07:07 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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OH and another thing you could do with those trays of mycelium is to try and inoculate some pasteurized hpoo or straw or a 50/50 mix of both. It might work, it might not, but the yield could be tremendous.
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Re: How long till this tray colonizes? [Re: taytayjunkay]
#22240567 - 09/15/15 10:03 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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i might try this next time, i'm trying to avoid hpoo as much as i can, i think i might consider doing straw, i'm not wasting time on brf anymore
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Re: How long till this tray colonizes? [Re: taytayjunkay]
#22240660 - 09/15/15 10:26 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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taytayjunkay said: Ah, well you should just go ahead and follow standard procedure then. You won't be able to use the mycelium in the brf jars since if you opened them they'd be at major risk of contamination. Although you could give it a shot on one jar, if you have plenty. It will only take a small amount of mycelium. Like a quarter sized piece. Anyway good luck.
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taytayjunkay said: OH and another thing you could do with those trays of mycelium is to try and inoculate some pasteurized hpoo or straw or a 50/50 mix of both. It might work, it might not, but the yield could be tremendous.

just fruit it and hope for something to pop out so you can print it or take a clone to agar. I dunno what the heck this guy is talking about.
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Re: How long till this tray colonizes? [Re: newrook]
#22240697 - 09/15/15 10:36 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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well, looks like you have no idea what does this TEK yield, it is definitely less than doing bulks on grains, but, its not that very little, i should be having some descent fruits, i will keep you guys posted anyway Thanks btw
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Re: How long till this tray colonizes? [Re: Elganzoury]
#22242107 - 09/15/15 04:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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a quick update:
that's my SGFC
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Re: How long till this tray colonizes? [Re: Elganzoury]
#22242167 - 09/15/15 04:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Not bad. You coulda used a larger tub tho. Your mushies are gonna need more room to grow!!
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Re: How long till this tray colonizes? [Re: Elganzoury]
#22242179 - 09/15/15 04:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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elevate your chamber... it needs air flow underneath it... put it on some jars or something
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Re: How long till this tray colonizes? [Re: Phototropism]
#22242225 - 09/15/15 05:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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And keep it away from the wall, you want airflow coming in on all sides.
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Re: How long till this tray colonizes? [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22242646 - 09/15/15 06:24 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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thanks for all the tips guys <3 i can elevate it, but this is the only place i could use, maybe the other option would be placing them on a desk underneath the AC, but i'm worried about the contamination risk
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Re: How long till this tray colonizes? [Re: Elganzoury]
#22242660 - 09/15/15 06:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Put them in the middle of a room with the tub resting on eggcrates, if you have them.
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Re: How long till this tray colonizes? [Re: Psilosoulful]
#22243024 - 09/15/15 07:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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yes i do have egg crates, but i heard putting them on the ground would blow the whole thing as there are more contaminants on the floor -or near the floor- so i heard that its better to put them a bit higher, any tips?
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Re: How long till this tray colonizes? [Re: Elganzoury]
#22243047 - 09/15/15 07:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just put a few jars under the corners to elevate it...you need 4-5 of perlite...and there are entirely too many holes in that thing...I would tape half of them up...you don't want your chamber near any fans or direct AC...honestly I would get a bigger tote and make a new sgfc to specs... http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20195542
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Edited by LocN9ne (09/15/15 07:49 PM)
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