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OfflineMescalean
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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22242524 - 09/15/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So really truly transitioning into a real woman is just about as real as lets sayyyyy.... Noahs ark?

So even if you get your dick mutilated and feed yourself estrogen by the shit ton you are still, in reality, a man


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OfflineBeanhead
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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: Mescalean]
    #22242558 - 09/15/15 06:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

ok
shall I kiss your booboo now?


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OfflineDr.Wongburger
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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: Mescalean]
    #22242624 - 09/15/15 06:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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koods said:

Can you provide any kind of legitimate research that shows that prison rape causes people to become transgendered?




I can not provide you any thing thats prison rape specific that will lead some one to desire a sex change as a direct source.

However one that gets a sex change they do it because of desire. Or any one that wants it.

I think some one can learn to be gay threw conformity, and then learn to want to be a girl.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conformity

http://www.queerty.com/fem-guys-treated-like-royalty-and-other-shocking-revelations-from-a-gay-inmate-20141010

“If I’m a girl — and yes they call us girls in there…in prison, we are their wives…This is what they get, this is all they have. You know you have a lot of them who lie and say they have sex with the female guards, but not all of them can do that. You have more homosexuality than what you probably believe.”

"Also, trans women are called “titty girls” (even RuPaul won’t go near that word). “They’ve had operations, they’ve been taking hormones, so they have big booties…They’re treated like royalty.”

"Rape occurs, but not as often as it used to. Or it’s used as currency. If someone owes you something and can’t pay it back, you can “take their ass as payment.” (Yikes.)"

If some one cant afford to pay a person back, they can get raped. If that happens multiple times they may want to consider becoming a Trans. That would sound appealing to many people. Conformity can cause these people to change.


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InvisibleShroomerInTheRye
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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22242681 - 09/15/15 06:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

This is a complicated and touchy topic.

I've dated a transwoman, post op.  We had a fun relationship, but she sped through the process, so it felt like dating a man.  She didn't live like a woman for a year.  She just up and went to Thailand, then Chicago for facial surgery, so she never got the softness that most women get.

For me, personally, it's all about how you feel inside, not so much the genitals, but then again, I can't imagine dating someone without boobs.  Dear God, how I love boobs.

Sometimes, I wonder if more people are transgender than they're willing to admit.  Like, when I go to the bar and see a chick with a short hair cut, a wallet with a chain, and a Harley, it makes me wonder, "Do you really want to be a man?"


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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22242716 - 09/15/15 06:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Dr.Wongburger said:
oh wait.. maybe it's

:underage: :underage: :underage:
:underage: :underage: :underage:
:underage: :underage: :underage:

That fucking goof up...:laugh2:



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OfflineBitter Cactus
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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
    #22242721 - 09/15/15 06:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Here is another question that will spark discussion.
Pretend you are a father or mother. If your child had a sexual relationship with a transgender person, would you be okay with it?
You may choose only one


Votes accepted from (09/15/15 05:37 PM) to (No end specified)
View the results of this poll



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Offlinekoods
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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22242793 - 09/15/15 06:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Dr.Wongburger said:
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Mescalean said:

Your DNA dictates whether you are male or female. If you are born male your dna does not "transition" too, so guess what, you are still genetically a dude, no matter how much you fantasize about being a woman.


Has anyone brought up the brain chemistry imbalance issue yet? Always a good one.




What do ya know! Some one understands what I have said. Make sure you mention "feelings" and mention the word "transgender" so it's considered on topic. "transition" might not cut it. :lol:




You guys think wether you have a dick or not determines someone's gender identity. It does not. Gender is more than a function of the sexual organs, it is also a hardwired property of the brain. When the brain and sex organs are not the same gender, people do not feel that their bodies are appropriate for the gender with which they identify.


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OfflineDetached
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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: koods]
    #22242799 - 09/15/15 06:56 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:popcorn:

I really don't have an opinion either way.


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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: koods]
    #22242816 - 09/15/15 06:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Does the brain chemistry of a transgendered person(without hormone therapy) differ from that of their true sex?


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InvisibleShroomerInTheRye
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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: JvF]
    #22242828 - 09/15/15 07:01 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

There's a lot of questions about that, but we seem to know less about our own brains than Mars.


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Invisibler.lutece
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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: JvF]
    #22242899 - 09/15/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I seem to remember reading that being the case. Let me see if I can make it back to a computer and find legit info rather than just my saying so.

EDIT: Here we go, jfischer218:

Quote:

Antonio Guillamon‘s team at the National University of Distance Education in Madrid, Spain, think they have found a better way to spot a transsexual brain. In a study due to be published next month, the team ran MRI scans on the brains of 18 female-to-male transsexual people who’d had no treatment and compared them with those of 24 males and 19 females.

They found significant differences between male and female brains in four regions of white matter – and the female-to-male transsexual people had white matter in these regions that resembled a male brain (Journal of Psychiatric Research, DOI: 10.1016/j.jpsychires.2010.05.006). “It’s the first time it has been shown that the brains of female-to-male transsexual people are masculinised,” Guillamon says.

In a separate study, the team used the same technique to compare white matter in 18 male-to-female transsexual people with that in 19 males and 19 females. Surprisingly, in each transsexual person’s brain the structure of the white matter in the four regions was halfway between that of the males and females (Journal of Psychiatric Research, DOI: 10.1016/j.jpsychires.2010.11.007). “Their brains are not completely masculinised and not completely feminised, but they still feel female,” says Guillamon.

Guillamon isn’t sure whether the four regions are at all associated with notions of gender, but Ivanka Savic-Berglund at the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm, Sweden, thinks they might be. One of the four regions – the superior longitudinal fascicle – is particularly interesting, she says. “It connects the parietal lobe [involved in sensory processing] and frontal lobe [involved in planning movement] and may have implications in body perception.”




Most of the data is there, but the rest of the article can be read here.


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OfflineEnjoywho
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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: koods]
    #22242902 - 09/15/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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koods said:
Quote:

Enjoywho said:
My ex gf was trams. Could give a duck less. The only thing I don't like is I have to walk by her house every day and it bums me out as we broke up over the stupidest most pointless shit



Quote:

Enjoywho said:
My dad is incredibly homophobic. I told him to go fuck himself when he tried to say something rude as fuck.

All my good friends And family I told. She was a cool ass chick and fuck do I miss her cooking.




I have a lot of respect for your openness about this.




She was a cool pass person and I miss her. Fucking dumb we couldn't stop fighting over the dumbest shit.


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OfflineBeanhead
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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: JvF]
    #22243925 - 09/15/15 11:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

jfischer218 said:
Does the brain chemistry of a transgendered person(without hormone therapy) differ from that of their true sex?




Yes

neurologic, psychologic, sociologic, hormonal makeup, heredity, intelligence, sexuality, identity, behavioral science/genetics, up to chemistry ...
lol whatever keep looking, you'll never find it

I like how I can do what I want
since you know
i'm an adult 

haterz gone hate:whatsthisohfuckyou:


Edited by Beanhead (09/15/15 11:17 PM)


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OfflineSyd Barrett
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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: Beanhead]
    #22243951 - 09/15/15 11:27 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Its kind of hard to understand how someone would feel being born in the sex but I do know that the kind of surgery and hormones and people judging that person. It's not something someone does without not being able to live in there current body


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OfflineBitter Cactus
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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: Syd Barrett]
    #22243961 - 09/15/15 11:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I don't understand how the orgasm stuff works. I would be terrified to lose my dick and have something that doesn't work like the real thing. How the fuck do you even transform a penis into a lubricated pussy that orgasms like a real one.


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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22243986 - 09/15/15 11:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Once you go for tje shitty present day surgery, it becomes a mental disorder. Not that you shouldn't ba able too, but it definitely is some sort of disfunction when you need a surgery to feel complete.


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InvisibleOeric McKenna
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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22243995 - 09/15/15 11:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Bitter Cactus said:
If you were transsexual and still had the dick that would suck if you got an accidently semi or full boner in public.




I have this problem where I get boners all the time for no good reason...
Man, that'd be a hundred times more awkward than it already is if I was dressed....in a dress.


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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: Oeric McKenna]
    #22243997 - 09/15/15 11:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Just talking to a semi attractive chick I sometimes have to do my best to not get a boner lol


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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22244016 - 09/15/15 11:52 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I drive power equipment at work &...all that bouncing...just sets it off
I try to think of things that turn me off but it's tough sometimes


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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22244027 - 09/15/15 11:55 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Definitely an advantage of being a female. Nothing to give away the fact that you have every intention of tapping that.


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