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OfflinePatlal
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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22241330 - 09/15/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I don't know what to think about trans-gendered people. Sure, in your head you're the other sex, but physically, you're still who you are. You can have surgery and swallow countess pills to transform your body, but in the end, you are who you are.

But then again, when I say that, I'm considered close-minded...

Personally I would never be able to date a trans-gendered person. Too weird for me.


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OfflinePatlal
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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: Patlal]
    #22241344 - 09/15/15 01:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

For those interestes

A video of a surgery to male to female.

Warning. very graphic. It's surgery.



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OfflineDr.Wongburger
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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22241423 - 09/15/15 01:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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In our society, we are making great leaps with the acceptance of transgender people. I personally have met a few trans people in my life and actually got to touch the tits of one over the shirt (they were fake) and it was an enjoyable experience.

However, would you be comfortable having a sexual relationship with a transgender despite what other people might think?

I think the whole trans thing is one of the whole parts of sexuality I don't completely understand. When you see a transgender person do you pass any judgments or are you completely open minded and accepting? I think I am open minded and accepting but would not consider a full blown relationship unless the person was really down to earth and cool. What about you?

Discuss.




I'm shocked you support this. Most people that are so controlling with in their beliefs towards drugs, also ar strict in other areas such as this. How would you feel if I said being a "trans-gender" should be illegal in this nation?




Transgenders are not hurting people.

Drugs hurt people, and making one's that are already tough to find be more accessible is counter intuitive to me.




Nope your wrong. Drugs do not hurt people. People hurt people. People hurt them selves. You sound just like the people who support taking away our rights to own guns. "Guns kill people!". Uh no they don't People kill people.

BTW Transgenders do hurt people.. they are people!

Don't believe me? Why don't you go check out a prison. Interview them! They will let you know.



Check it out.


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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: Patlal]
    #22241441 - 09/15/15 01:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Patlal said:
For those interestes

A video of a surgery to male to female.

Warning. very graphic. It's surgery.





Who the hell thought of this in the first place, thats insane. I would NOT have wqnted to be the test dummy for this procedure


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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22241506 - 09/15/15 01:53 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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336 said:
Don't feed the anti-drug argument Wong. It will derail this entire thread. lol




Good, fuck this thread.
Regardless, transgenders hurt people!
Every one is so happy with their rainbow covered pictures until their in a cell in prison!

No then they don't support the gays and transgenders. Nah then their scared of the gays and the transgenders. Their scared of getting fucked in the ass!

The gay people in prisons fuck the others right in the ass- rape. Every one supports the homosexual lifestyle until they are forced to confront them in a environment such as prison.


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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22241520 - 09/15/15 01:58 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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336 said:
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Patlal said:
I don't know what to think about trans-gendered people. Sure, in your head you're the other sex, but physically, you're still who you are. You can have surgery and swallow countess pills to transform your body, but in the end, you are who you are.

But then again, when I say that, I'm considered close-minded...

Personally I would never be able to date a trans-gendered person. Too weird for me.



All depends on your philosophy. If you're an atheist then all their is is the body. But if you believe in people having spirits then the body is just a vehicle; just a car for us to drive around in.

If you believe in spirits, some spirits are more "masculine/aggressive" and others are more "feminine/passive" and sometimes it would seem that some spirits end up in the wrong physical equivalent. If you believe in that kind of thing that is.

I personally can't wait till we are all just downloaded into machines. Get rid of gender altogether. That shit just divides us.




Gender doesn't divide us, I enjoy being a man and females enjoy being a woman, it's called the human experience. 

The only time it divides us is when some sexist idiot whines about something not being fair, nothing about life is "fair".


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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: JvF]
    #22241531 - 09/15/15 02:00 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I've spent a lot of time around several people in various stages of transition. I fully support them aiming to match up their body with how they feel in their mind. I'm not sure how I would feel if I were approached for a relationship by a trans man. Honestly, it's true what they say: "It's easier to dig a hole than build a pole." I don't say this to be hurtful, but rather with the consideration in mind that sexual stimulus could be difficult for both parties. I do enjoy having trans individuals as friends, however; it gives insight into a whole other set of life challenges that I'll never have to deal with.

Trans stigma is something I hope to see fade with time. We certainly are making great strides, to the point where if someone were to mention that they had transitioned, many people would just pause and go, "Ah, interesting. As I was saying, though..." I think that's the goal: to make gender and sexual minorities so commonplace that no one bats an eye, and "coming out" as one of these identities doesn't have to be so stressful on the individual.

@Wong: Getting raped in the ass isn't the same thing as homosexuality. You don't have to be attracted to your cellmate for him to put his dick in your butt. You just have to have a loud mouth and a bad attitude.


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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: r.lutece]
    #22241571 - 09/15/15 02:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I do hear going from girl to guy is really hard and the new penis they make is not as large as a normal penis.


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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: koraks]
    #22241618 - 09/15/15 02:23 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I'm sure I'm as prejudiced as the next person, although I don't try to be. Let's be honest here: prejudice is inherent to the human mind and it takes conscious control and conditioning to lose it. Having said that, I believe that transgender people are just people and in essence no different than you or me. They have their own struggles, but so have many people. Nevertheless, I would not consider a sexual relationship with a Transgender. I'm 100% straight and the thought of my woman having been physically a man previously is off putting to me. The social stigma has little or nothing to do with this, it's purely a physical thing. Obviously, I would have no issues associating with Transgenders and I'd be interested in what they want to share about their situation, but wouldn't treat them differently than any of my other friends.



Pretty much this exactly. I'm not going to pretend I'm 100% at ease with the whole concept, but generally I try to treat people with respect. I've hung out with transgendered people on a couple of occasions and I have been known to slip up on the pronouns when drunk and have to correct myself. Honestly in my own mind I don't truly think of them as being the gender they identify as, but I don't want to address them in a way that would be hurtful.


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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22241655 - 09/15/15 02:33 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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I support Nazi's! I'm a Neo-Nazi and if I had my way we would live in a Utopia cleansed from all homosexuality.





:thumbup: Have you ever even been to prison? Have you ever had to fight off some homosexual trying to get some?

I have nothing against Homosexuals however I am against rape! I'm also against trolls like bitter cactus who is some one who more than likely uses two shroomery accounts.

I'm not sure why you would imply that you support rape.

Reason for edit- Added info


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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: psi]
    #22241661 - 09/15/15 02:35 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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psi said:
I'm not going to pretend I'm 100% at ease with the whole concept, but generally I try to treat people with respect. I've hung out with transgendered people on a couple of occasions and I have been known to slip up on the pronouns when drunk and have to correct myself. Honestly in my own mind I don't truly think of them as being the gender they identify as, but I don't want to address them in a way that would be hurtful.




This is an amazingly appropriate response to a transgendered person, quite honestly. Respecting someone is the most important thing, and I've never met a trans person who was furious if someone slipped up on pronouns. They understand it's not always an easy thing to remember, and the fact that you correct yourself is really more important than anything. You respect their desire to be someone else, and that's...that's pretty cool, man.

:manofapproval:


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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22241665 - 09/15/15 02:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22241790 - 09/15/15 03:12 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Have you ever even been to prison? Have you ever had to fight off some homosexual trying to get some? Have you had to bite down on the pillow as a massive cock tears apart your asshole!? Have you!? I ASKED YOU A QUESTION 336! HAVE YOU EVER HAD A 6'5" BLACK MAN NIBBLE ON YOUR EAR AS HE POUNDED YOUR ASSHOLE INTO OBLIVION!?




Sorry, I can't say I have.
:canthelpbutlaugh:




I'm glad you are taking this with ease!

The Nazi's of the past where always more of the stickler types. Unfortunately for them they lost the war and the Jew's of today are still very powerful and wealthy. Long live the Jews!

That's something that you admit to support rape (or atleast it seem's maybe you should clarify). Not even denying it. Have you consensually committed to sexual relations with another man? Your so detailed you sound like your speaking from experience. I do remember you were posting about possibly being bisexual.

I would not normal ask about ones personal preferences but your so detailed. 

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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #22242048 - 09/15/15 04:22 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Reality -

"Almost everyone hates a snitch... but this is not drugs, or a fight, or even a bank robbery... this is the inhuman rape, torture, and killing of individuals... thousands every year whom are little boys and girls. If you explore the deep web and you find one of these sites, report it!"



They also have "redroom" style video feeds where you pay money in bitcoins to have some one raped the way you would like.


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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22242069 - 09/15/15 04:31 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

:jacked:


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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: r.lutece]
    #22242078 - 09/15/15 04:34 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Bitter Cactus made this thread.
:smugjerry: :smugjerry: :smugjerry:
:smugjerry: :smugjerry: :smugjerry:
:smugjerry: :smugjerry: :smugjerry:
:smugjerry: :smugjerry: :smugjerry:
:smugjerry: :smugjerry: :smugjerry:


Does that ring a bell to any one? :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :lol: :lol: :hellfire:


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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22242085 - 09/15/15 04:36 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

oh wait.. maybe it's

:underage: :underage: :underage:
:underage: :underage: :underage:
:underage: :underage: :underage:

That fucking goof up...:laugh2:


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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22242087 - 09/15/15 04:37 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Does it matter? BC proposed a legitimate discussion that engaged people.


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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: r.lutece]
    #22242111 - 09/15/15 04:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not bothered by it. Did the thread jacking discourage you to continue discussion of the topic? Maybe it threw you off course?

I did not think any one was stopping you from staying on topic. My original postings are in relation to the topic.

I have two post's in this thread that are off the topic of trans genders other than if you count my responses towards you about bitter cactus.


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Re: The stigma about transgender people and how you feel about it [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
    #22242131 - 09/15/15 04:46 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Ah, so your ranting about homosexuals raping people in prison was on-topic then?

Between you and 336, the topic has been completely derailed. If anyone was still talking about it, we're not doing it here.


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