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Re: Hello everyone, I'm going to be going to prison for a while. Love you all [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22241025 - 09/15/15 11:49 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said: I believe in decriminalization but still think people dealing/ trafficking large amounts should do time.
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Bitter Cactus said: He did the crime, he does the time. I hope he learns his lesson.
Get the fuck outta here dude
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Re: Hello everyone, I'm going to be going to prison for a while. Love you all [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22241040 - 09/15/15 11:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said: LSD is just so hard to find I don't see many little kids using it.
If you can buy a million tabs at the corner store of course a bunch of minors are gonna do it. The whole complete legalization argument never takes into account that the majority of people are complete retards and when they do drugs they do everything stupid possible.
I'm sorry sir but I beg to differ with you. I would assume we would have some sort of age limit for purchase and I would also assume we would have actual literature on its effects and not just bullshit propaganda like we have now.
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Re: Hello everyone, I'm going to be going to prison for a while. Love you all [Re: lowbrow]
#22241054 - 09/15/15 11:58 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Kids can get their hands on mostly any drug they want. Putting innocent non violent people in jail and ruining their lives isnt the anwser. I hope you learn your lesson once you're dangerously addicted to amphetamines
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Re: Hello everyone, I'm going to be going to prison for a while. Love you all [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22241085 - 09/15/15 12:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said: LSD is just so hard to find I don't see many little kids using it.
If you can buy a million tabs at the corner store of course a bunch of minors are gonna do it. The whole complete legalization argument never takes into account that the majority of people are complete retards and when they do drugs they do everything stupid possible.
Nope this does not matter. Invalid point. This is about freedom, to bad even if the little kids could/ can get their hands on LSD or other drugs. It does not matter.
Stick to your American roots.
Looking at LSD as if it where legal: If you want the security of "Not having little kids get lsd" and would trade your freedom to posses LSD you deserve neither.
It's does not matter if the majority is retarded, that's their problem we are all about individuality in this country and individual freedoms. I'm responsible for my actions, not theirs. If you don't like that, then you should leave. Less people trying to take away our freedoms. People like you are apart of the reason drugs are still illegal in todays world.
We are not aiming for a Utopia in this nation. We aim for liberty and justice.
It does not matter if things are perfect or not. It's all about freedom. Freedom and freedom of choice towards the individual is more important.
Besides, parents need to learn better parenting skills. Fucking slackers.
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Bitter Cactus
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Re: Hello everyone, I'm going to be going to prison for a while. Love you all [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
#22241210 - 09/15/15 12:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Um excuse me, but right now even if I tried as an adult I could not find one tab of LSD. That means prohibition is doing it's job.
Lots of areas around the world have no meth. Should we make meth more available to the general public? What about PCP?
I think there is a balance between prohibition and legalization. I think full out decriminalization for users in personal amounts for any drug, but I think cooks and traffickers should face jail time, but not as long as the sentences are now.
If you want to have a debate, you need to be able to negotiate. Let's face it, all drugs will never be fully legal. It will just never happen and good riddance I do not want to be able to buy crack at the store cause someone like me would end up doing it and things would go bad quickly. I think there is an approach that benefits everyone somewhere in the middle.
I could just see it now though. LSD is legal and within 24 hours people of age are giving it to kids and they are tripping and some kid jumps off a building and the news would just be up in flames and parents would be angry and protest to make it illegal again. It will never work in our society.
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Re: Hello everyone, I'm going to be going to prison for a while. Love you all [Re: Bitter Cactus] 1
#22241216 - 09/15/15 12:39 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Why do you even come here?
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Re: Hello everyone, I'm going to be going to prison for a while. Love you all [Re: Sheekle]
#22241227 - 09/15/15 12:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: Why do you even come here?
You're against MDMA and LSD but don't care if you eat amphetamines like candy just to pass a few classes you can't focus on sober
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Re: Hello everyone, I'm going to be going to prison for a while. Love you all [Re: Rebelutionsssss] 1
#22241231 - 09/15/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus
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Re: Hello everyone, I'm going to be going to prison for a while. Love you all [Re: Sheekle]
#22241234 - 09/15/15 12:44 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: Why do you even come here?
I loved tripping when I first came here and I still love tripping but I stay here for the community and people. I think I offer a different perspective and it balances out some of the ideas that are so ingrained into people here.
Just because I think full out legalization of every single drug is not the best approach, that does not mean I am against drugs. I believe there is a middle ground that will achieve the best results.
I just do not think it is realistic to expect parents and our society to come together and decide that heroin should be accessible and purchased at any store.
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Re: Hello everyone, I'm going to be going to prison for a while. Love you all [Re: Bitter Cactus] 1
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Re: Hello everyone, I'm going to be going to prison for a while. Love you all [Re: Achillita]
#22241247 - 09/15/15 12:47 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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If your argument is about the kids I'll tell you when I was in high school it was way harder to find someone to buy us liquor or beer but I had 5-6 kids I could call and go pick up a sack of weed literally any time of day.
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Re: Hello everyone, I'm going to be going to prison for a while. Love you all [Re: WyoMX]
#22241253 - 09/15/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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WyoMX said: If your argument is about the kids I'll tell you when I was in high school it was way harder to find someone to buy us liquor or beer but I had 5-6 kids I could call and go pick up a sack of weed literally any time of day.
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Re: Hello everyone, I'm going to be going to prison for a while. Love you all [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22241254 - 09/15/15 12:49 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: Why do you even come here?
I loved tripping when I first came here and I still love tripping but I stay here for the community and people. I think I offer a different perspective and it balances out some of the ideas that are so ingrained into people here.
Just because I think full out legalization of every single drug is not the best approach, that does not mean I am against drugs. I believe there is a middle ground that will achieve the best results.
I just do not think it is realistic to expect parents and our society to come together and decide that heroin should be accessible and purchased at any store.

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Re: Hello everyone, I'm going to be going to prison for a while. Love you all [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22241300 - 09/15/15 01:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bitter Cactus said: Um excuse me, but right now even if I tried as an adult I could not find one tab of LSD. That means prohibition is doing it's job.
Lots of areas around the world have no meth. Should we make meth more available to the general public? What about PCP?
I think there is a balance between prohibition and legalization. I think full out decriminalization for users in personal amounts for any drug, but I think cooks and traffickers should face jail time, but not as long as the sentences are now.
If you want to have a debate, you need to be able to negotiate. Let's face it, all drugs will never be fully legal. It will just never happen and good riddance I do not want to be able to buy crack at the store cause someone like me would end up doing it and things would go bad quickly. I think there is an approach that benefits everyone somewhere in the middle.
I could just see it now though. LSD is legal and within 24 hours people of age are giving it to kids and they are tripping and some kid jumps off a building and the news would just be up in flames and parents would be angry and protest to make it illegal again. It will never work in our society.
It can very well work in our society and has. You really believe drugs have always been illegal here? bahaha! A person like you does not deserve the right to use drugs or the security of being safe from them or their users.
If you can not practice safe drug use then that is your, the individuals problem. You need to understand America was NEVER meant to be and will NEVER be a Utopia. I can not emphasize that enough. The conversation is not on "can we ever legalize drugs here". That's your assumption of what is being discussed.
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Bitter Cactus said: LSD is illegal. He knew that and broke the law anyways.
My solution is to tell him to not deal drugs and you won't go to jail.
Whether or not you agree with the drug laws, it really doesn't matter. If you want them changed you can write a letter to your local congressmen and hope something changes and they legalize LSD. Until then don't deal drugs unless you want to ruin your life and make your family suffer so you can make a quick buck.
I believe in decriminalization but still think people dealing/ trafficking large amounts should do time.
You should look into liberty and the free market. Legalization only makes more sense. It will lead to a more sound economy. People dealing and trafficking large amounts should be legal legit business men and or women.
If America was true to it's roots this guy would not be going to prison for LSD. American culture has been fucked threw the influence of these comrade nations (most of the world). Their ways of economy, market and statesmanship has boiled over into our society and culture to the point to where every one is brainwashed when it comes to the subject of substances. It's a disgusting plague. All substances should be 100% legal. That is pure fact/truth, sticking to our Freedom loving roots. I don't care what you Tyranny loving fascist bastards think otherwise. 
Well buddy I believe in legalization. You have just as likely of a chance to decriminalize drugs nation wide as I do that they will be legalized nation wide. Good luck!
Even if prohibition is doing it's job this is not the point. Your point still isn't valid!
"Should we make meth more available to the general public? What about PCP?" In this nation the Government should have nothing to do with the availability of Meth and PCP. That should be left up to the freemarket! If the free market can make it as available as a pack of Cigarettes then more power to them!
Just because you and your culture does not agree with it and or cant handle them/ its self does not mean others should have to suffer and not be allowed to do what they want in the privacy of their own owns. You are very selfish!
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I could just see it now though. LSD is legal and within 24 hours people of age are giving it to kids and they are tripping and some kid jumps off a building and the news would just be up in flames and parents would be angry and protest to make it illegal again. It will never work in our society.
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Nope this does not matter. Invalid point. This is about freedom, to bad even if the little kids could/ can get their hands on LSD or other drugs. It does not matter.
It's does not matter if the majority is retarded, that's their problem we are all about individuality in this country and individual freedoms. I'm responsible for my actions, not theirs. If you don't like that, then you should leave. Less people trying to take away our freedoms. People like you are apart of the reason drugs are still illegal in todays world.
We are not aiming for a Utopia in this nation. We aim for liberty and justice.
We are not aiming for a Utopia in this nation! Go some where else if your looking for a perfect society!
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Re: Hello everyone, I'm going to be going to prison for a while. Love you all [Re: LySergic D]
#22241308 - 09/15/15 01:06 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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LySergic D said: Btw, they will never let you meet the ci. If you bring this to trial they will escort you out of the room while the ci is on the stand.
Couldn't he have someone go in a watch the trial and see who it was, or are those closed things?
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Re: Hello everyone, I'm going to be going to prison for a while. Love you all [Re: WyoMX]
#22241314 - 09/15/15 01:08 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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WyoMX said: If your argument is about the kids I'll tell you when I was in high school it was way harder to find someone to buy us liquor or beer but I had 5-6 kids I could call and go pick up a sack of weed literally any time of day.
That's cause weed is accessible and I think weed should be legal.
Is it easier for you to buy LSD or purchase liquor? Is it easier for you to get crack, meth, heroin, or PCP then liquor?
I made a thread earlier asking if coke or MDMA or a bunch of drugs were legal would you try them. Most people actually said yes even to the hard drugs.
I am confident if crack and heroin were legal it would flood the society really fast and take over.
Imagine if oxycodone were legal at 5 bucks a pop for a 80mg pill. I can already tell you I would be nodded out all day for the rest of my life. There is a reason you need prescriptions for certain drugs. The reason is because if you hand those scripted meds like candy everyone's first inclination is to abuse the hell out of them and sell them illegally.
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Re: Hello everyone, I'm going to be going to prison for a while. Love you all [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22241326 - 09/15/15 01:10 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: Why do you even come here?
I loved tripping when I first came here and I still love tripping but I stay here for the community and people. I think I offer a different perspective and it balances out some of the ideas that are so ingrained into people here.
Just because I think full out legalization of every single drug is not the best approach, that does not mean I am against drugs. I believe there is a middle ground that will achieve the best results.
I just do not think it is realistic to expect parents and our society to come together and decide that heroin should be accessible and purchased at any store.
What makes you think heroin would be available to be purchased at any store? Do you see liquor being sold at any store?
No you do not. You need a special license. We also have Liquor stores. Maybe you have heard or even been inside one before. They sell Liquor. Your special.
BTW not every one is a parent. Our society is built up of all sorts of people. Maybe I read that out of context or something but it looks like your concentrating on parents....Odd. I may be wrong.. but ya know man its wud ever.
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Re: Hello everyone, I'm going to be going to prison for a while. Love you all [Re: Bitter Cactus] 1
#22241349 - 09/15/15 01:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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fuck off cactus. Just offer words of encouragement or fuck off.
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Dr.Wongburger
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Re: Hello everyone, I'm going to be going to prison for a while. Love you all [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#22241369 - 09/15/15 01:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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WyoMX said: If your argument is about the kids I'll tell you when I was in high school it was way harder to find someone to buy us liquor or beer but I had 5-6 kids I could call and go pick up a sack of weed literally any time of day.
That's cause weed is accessible and I think weed should be legal.
Is it easier for you to buy LSD or purchase liquor? Is it easier for you to get crack, meth, heroin, or PCP then liquor?
I made a thread earlier asking if coke or MDMA or a bunch of drugs were legal would you try them. Most people actually said yes even to the hard drugs.
I am confident if crack and heroin were legal it would flood the society really fast and take over.
Imagine if oxycodone were legal at 5 bucks a pop for a 80mg pill. I can already tell you I would be nodded out all day for the rest of my life. There is a reason you need prescriptions for certain drugs. The reason is because if you hand those scripted meds like candy everyone's first inclination is to abuse the hell out of them and sell them illegally.
You just don't seem to understand that not every one is responsible for your own actions. I'm not responsible for those who can not handle responsible drug use. Why do you want such a perfect society?
It's easier to get crack, meth, heroin, or PCP than liquor if they the guy selling it lives next door!
This is a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy. Maybe your used to being told we live in a democracy.
Here's a example of democracy -
"We, the majority don't like the color red. Lets vote on rather or not your allowed to wear the color red." The majority votes. You are no longer allowed to wear the color red. Now your color red wearing ass is fucked because the majority does not like the color red.
Here's a example of a Constitutional republic - "We, the majority do not like the color red." It end's right there. The constitution protects your right to wear the color red. There is not voting on it. No debate.
Society has mingled so much with foriegn nations we no longer hold this perspective on life. Just because its a substance or drug in discussion and not something like "the color red", this gives the government no right to make it illegal. However the brainwash is so prevalent from all the comrades out there (foreign nations that do not love freedom) that it is the way is today.
I don't blame you bitter cactus, you are just brainwashed like the rest of the majority into loving the ways of tyranny and non free nations.
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Re: Hello everyone, I'm going to be going to prison for a while. Love you all [Re: Dr.Wongburger]
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14 month sentence will not give op prison time...most likely county or city jail...(big difference!) You'll be in there with non violent types...DWI's, burglary ..other low level drug charges and such...also, those that are awaiting trials that could not post bond.
Like others said...he will probably get sent out on work release after a while or even home detention if the jail is too crowded.Also....good time credits will most likely have you done in 10 or 11 months....Good luck op!
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