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Extraction tek? any one?
    #22237238 - 09/14/15 03:38 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Has anyone tried the below tek? im trying it soon, main reason is to dose higher and avoid nausea and diarrhea


http://www.fanaticus.com/mycoalki.htm

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Re: Extraction tek? any one? [Re: rolear8]
    #22237355 - 09/14/15 04:04 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I often hear that some of the potency is lost when doing mushroom extractions. To be quite honest I have never tried one myself though so what I said is obviously not a fact. Have you ever heard of the lemon tek?


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Re: Extraction tek? any one? [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #22237464 - 09/14/15 04:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, I did the ethanol extraction a couple of weeks ago. A simplified version of what pf describes in that link. I didn't use heat, and must have done some other things wrong as well. Potency was not what I expected. Look in my threads for a detailed report. I didn't write the conclusion yet, sad to say it didn't have a successful ending (read about it soon).

How I would have loved to have a tincture that required only 1ml to trip!

If you decide to go ahead, make a report, I may very well learn something valuable

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Re: Extraction tek? any one? [Re: Hanz]
    #22237927 - 09/14/15 06:16 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

some of the nausea is directly caused by the drug itself reacting with 5-HT receptors, so even when extracted ,during the peak when your feeling drunk as fuck and your entire room is moving youll still want to vomit. high doses do that, no other way around i guess.

but if you have a hard time digesting shrooms, you do skip the comeup sickness since its extracted


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Re: Extraction tek? any one? [Re: Bigfeely123]
    #22240240 - 09/15/15 08:40 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, but i want to get the psilocybin in pure form, as crystals as on the link i mentioned.

Not sure what is better tho, the lemon tek, or to make tea and add lemon.. someone also suggested add coffee to the tea to absorb better the psilocybin..

Not sure which is can give you stronger effects, think we will need to test them all


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Re: Extraction tek? any one? [Re: rolear8]
    #22240344 - 09/15/15 09:09 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

When I was talking about extracted I was talking pure psilocybin. Even 100% pure crystals will react with 5-ht receptors causing nausea at the peak.


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Re: Extraction tek? any one? [Re: rolear8]
    #22240374 - 09/15/15 09:18 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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rolear8 said:
Yes, but i want to get the psilocybin in pure form, as crystals as on the link i mentioned.





Crystals are said to be unstable, and to oxidize quickly. That's why I tried an ethanol tincture. Not sure how bad the oxidation is though...

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rolear8 said:
Not sure what is better tho, the lemon tek, or to make tea and add lemon.. someone also suggested add coffee to the tea to absorb better the psilocybin..

Not sure which is can give you stronger effects, think we will need to test them all




Lemon tek is not about crystals, AFAIK ...so just a different subject.

From what I read on this site, the real lemon tek sounds like killer strength. Be careful, it is said to multiply your weight by 3 or even 4 to estimate your dose with lemon tek.


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Re: Extraction tek? any one? [Re: Hanz]
    #22240725 - 09/15/15 10:43 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Try 4 aco dmt, I understand that an extraction makes you feel closer to the chemical, but thats what growing shrooms is for. If you would like a mushroom trip thats clean and easier to heroic dose this is the compound for you, research it as it is quite fantastic and theyre is a lot of evidence that it is broken down to psilocin just as psilocybin is. As others said during the during the peak experience you will be so disoriented that nausea can follow and I believe diarrhea is a result of the binding to 5-ht receptors.


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Re: Extraction tek? any one? [Re: iLLCiD]
    #22240830 - 09/15/15 11:02 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Try 4 aco dmt, I understand that an extraction makes you feel closer to the chemical, but thats what growing shrooms is for. If you would like a mushroom trip thats clean and easier to heroic dose this is the compound for you, research it as it is quite fantastic and theyre is a lot of evidence that it is broken down to psilocin just as psilocybin is. As others said during the during the peak experience you will be so disoriented that nausea can follow and I believe diarrhea is a result of the binding to 5-ht receptors.




Not sure what it is 4 aco dmt, or how to get it, but i just got mimosa hostilis root last week, and tomorrow i will start the extraction of DMT for the first time.


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Re: Extraction tek? any one? [Re: rolear8]
    #22240961 - 09/15/15 11:35 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Psylocin is 4-ho-dmt , 4-aco-dmt is a RC available online (active in the mg range, so be careful with this) . Some say 4-aco becomes 4-ho in vivo but ime the 4-aco version is probably active by itself.

But even with 4-aco-dmt you will still get nausea since it react to 5-ht .

You're way better off Making tea or lemon tek.

DMT and mimosa is not directly related to those compounds, it would be like comparing methamphetamine with amphetamine.in the sense that They both have amphetamine in it but they are different


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Re: Extraction tek? any one? [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #22241329 - 09/15/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Psylocin is 4-ho-dmt , 4-aco-dmt is a RC available online (active in the mg range, so be careful with this) . Some say 4-aco becomes 4-ho in vivo but ime the 4-aco version is probably active by itself.

But even with 4-aco-dmt you will still get nausea since it react to 5-ht .

You're way better off Making tea or lemon tek.

DMT and mimosa is not directly related to those compounds, it would be like comparing methamphetamine with amphetamine.in the sense that They both have amphetamine in it but they are different




Im reading about it, seems that this 4-aco-dmt thing is even stronger than DMT in its own way as you say it. Also red that its legal? if it is can you point me out where do you get yours? if its not legal then disregard.

Regarding shrooms, i will definetly jump into lemon tek or tea + lemon since seems my shrooms are week or i can handle big doses.

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Re: Extraction tek? any one? [Re: rolear8]
    #22241422 - 09/15/15 01:30 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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rolear8 said:
can you point me out where do you get yours? if its not legal then disregard.





Google is your friend. Get it at your RC vendor.


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Re: Extraction tek? any one? [Re: rolear8]
    #22241590 - 09/15/15 02:15 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

Jean-guy Masta said:
Psylocin is 4-ho-dmt , 4-aco-dmt is a RC available online (active in the mg range, so be careful with this) . Some say 4-aco becomes 4-ho in vivo but ime the 4-aco version is probably active by itself.

But even with 4-aco-dmt you will still get nausea since it react to 5-ht .

You're way better off Making tea or lemon tek.

DMT and mimosa is not directly related to those compounds, it would be like comparing methamphetamine with amphetamine.in the sense that They both have amphetamine in it but they are different




Im reading about it, seems that this 4-aco-dmt thing is even stronger than DMT in its own way as you say it. Also red that its legal? if it is can you point me out where do you get yours? if its not legal then disregard.

Regarding shrooms, i will definetly jump into lemon tek or tea + lemon since seems my shrooms are week or i can handle big doses.

thanks




i think i fucked what i meant to say in my comparaison, i didnt meant to imply that 4 aco is like the meth to dmt being like a amphetamine ,sry high and on a cell phone at work lol,

edit: DMT and mimosa is not directly related to those compounds, it would be like comparing methamphetamine with amphetamine.in the sense that They both have amphetamine in their name but they are different substances

Both are incredibly strong in their effects but they are different. Unless you go crazy on your dose of 4-aco-dmt or you IV it or vape it (which i doubt is a good idea to vape a RC). DMT will be a stronger rush of psychedelia and a more "intense" experience since youre smoking it.


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Re: Extraction tek? any one? [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #22241981 - 09/15/15 04:05 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

4-ACO-DMT is a very "gray area" drug. Technically it is illegal under the federal analog act of 1986. Meaning if you are caught with it the chances of being prosecuted is very likely. The vendors that sell 4-ACO-DMT get around it by labeling it "not for human consumption" but even then I would imagine you'd have a very hard time proving in a court of law that you weren't going to actually consume it. Plus you'll be out thousands of dollars because of lawyer fees. Personally I wouldn't order RC's online.


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