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The (Four) Panaeolus images from a book. (Pics)
    #2223693 - 01/06/04 06:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Hello shroomers,

Today i would like to share with you a discussion about the four Panaeolus species images that we find from the book "Common Florida Mushrooms"; by the great Florida Proffessor of Mushrooms Dr. James W. Kimbrough himself.

Be prepared as it may i might start by adding that the information am about to share with you might be, quite disturbing.. :lol:

Numero uno: Panaeolus fimicola (toxic) growing from manure; black spore print.




Numero dos: P. papilionaceus (toxic) growing from manure; black spore print.
*note* "preveiously known as P. campanultus (Bull.:Fr.) Quel."




Numero tres: P. phalaenarum (toxic) growing from manure; black spore print.
*note* "traditionally gone under the name P. solidipes (Pk.) Sacc."




And finally,
Numero cuatro: P. retirugus (inedible) growing from manure; greyish/black spore print.




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Comments, Questions, Concerns/Complaints with this imformation say ye -

-I think that his P. fimicola is actually P. sphintricus
-And his P. papilionaceus is indeed P. papilionaceus
-Then his P. phalaenarum is probably an outdated name and is better known today as P. antillarum.
-And his P. retirugus actually looks like an error (?) because they completely look like Coprinus or Inky Caps instead.

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Re: The (Four) Panaeolus images from a book. (Pics) [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #2223806 - 01/06/04 07:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'd agree with the last one being a type of Coprinus.


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Re: The (Four) Panaeolus images from a book. (Pics) [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #2223963 - 01/06/04 08:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You are right about them except for the P. papilionaceus is conspecific with P. subbalteatus based on original mycological taxonomy from both China and from Japan in the late 1800s and early 1900s from articles about accidental ingestions of p. pailionaceus and its confusion with Copelandia cyanesens and P. subbalteatus. But you are correct his picture is probably P. sphinctrinus.

The original taxonomic descriptions of P. papilonaceus all described the cap as becoming flat. Sopmething which does not occur in panaeolus sphinctrinus. Paul Stamets has errors in his campanulatus/sphinctrinus/papilionaceus pages in his guide.

You assessment of the species is correct. The last is a Probably a coprinus, hard to tell with the scanned reproduction. Can't you lay the pages flat on the scanner. I know you have before because you have posted soem great photos from books in the past.

Mj Have you ever read Julia Morton' book about Florida's poisonous Plants with her comments about P. cubensis, where she sauys I have to go now, a boy called me up after eating what he thinks may or may bo not be P. cubensis.

Morton, Julia F. 1982. Gold top or hysteria toadstool. Plants Poisonous to Florida and other Warm Places:25-27.
The author mentions a death in Florida allegedly caused from the consumption of Psilocybe cubensis. Including a report of a young adult who drowned in a swamp while collecting magic mushrooms.


Mj, good post


Edited by mjshroomer (01/06/04 08:29 PM)


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Re: The (Four) Panaeolus images from a book. (Pics) [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2228881 - 01/08/04 06:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Also notice that the first three are classified as "toxic".


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Re: The (Four) Panaeolus images from a book. (Pics) [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #2229363 - 01/08/04 09:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Many guides still list a lot of them as toxic and/or Toxic/hallucinogenic,

Including even new bnooks which still list Panaeolina as a psychoactive mushroom.

mj


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