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Weed + heroin ... chance of overdose?
#22236836 - 09/14/15 02:11 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you take a sub-OD amount of opioid, and smoke a ton of weed, is there a cross 'potentiation' thing that might happen? Where you perm go mee-mee's?
Thanks, looked on Erowid but no joy.
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Re: Weed + heroin ... chance of overdose? [Re: SoupSandwich]
#22236860 - 09/14/15 02:19 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Most people OD on heroin because they think they are taking a sub-OD dose.
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Re: Weed + heroin ... chance of overdose? [Re: koods]
#22236887 - 09/14/15 02:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I can imagine.
I've taken it before, through a variety of routes of administration.
Just curious, seems unlikely, but you never know, so thought Id ask here...
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Re: Weed + heroin ... chance of overdose? [Re: SoupSandwich] 1
#22237249 - 09/14/15 03:41 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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They shouldn't cause a bad interaction since they don't target the same receptors. I'm no expert though.
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Re: Weed + heroin ... chance of overdose? [Re: The Moose] 1
#22237402 - 09/14/15 04:14 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't really know how the two interact within certain systems. I'm no expert, but in terms of your heart rate, weed is a stimulant and heroin is a depressant, so they may not be the best to mix if you have a bad heart.
I know many ODs are caused by environmental tolerances. If you constantly use in one area, then use the same amount in another area, you can reach OD effects. Who knows what kind of psychological effects it can have that would alter your tolerance.
If you have some anxiety, add that to the interaction and who knows 
It would probably depend on how far up you've gotten your dosages.
I'm using second person rhetorically.
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Re: Weed + heroin ... chance of overdose? [Re: SoupSandwich] 1
#22237411 - 09/14/15 04:17 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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As if the weed matters. Any time you shoot heroin you're taking a risk with your life. I hope you're not using the needle and I'm just jumping to conclusions.
Heroin itself is not a death sentence, it's just dangerous waters, intravenous heroin basically is.
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Re: Weed + heroin ... chance of overdose? [Re: ModestMouse]
#22237510 - 09/14/15 04:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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"Heroin itself is not a death sentence, it's just dangerous waters, intravenous heroin basically is"
very well put
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Re: Weed + heroin ... chance of overdose? [Re: Mescalean]
#22240163 - 09/15/15 08:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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No, not even entertaining the possibility of IV admin.
And, I think, perhaps, that taking multiple downers, even if they dont hit the same receptor sites...might(?)....be dangerous. Right? I guess thats at the heart of the matter here.
Actually, probably wont do anything with this knowledge anyway. (But, dont let that stop you! Other people might search this thread out and be looking for an answer.)Friend just said he could get 20 (edit: 20 dollar) grams and I was like, "Shit, I haven't tried that in....15 years. Might be a pleasurable experience to sprinkle some onto a bowl of crumble and sleep like a log.
@ Giftofdeprivation, thanks for the 'environmental' information. Never really even considered that angle. very interesting.
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Re: Weed + heroin ... chance of overdose? [Re: SoupSandwich]
#22240376 - 09/15/15 09:19 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Weed is neither a downer nor an upper. It should have no effect on your chance of OD'ing other than the chance that you may dose too high from being baked (??)
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Re: Weed + heroin ... chance of overdose? [Re: ModestMouse]
#22240439 - 09/15/15 09:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Always puts me to sleep. (If I smoke enough.) And slows reaction times. Right?
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Re: Weed + heroin ... chance of overdose? [Re: SoupSandwich] 1
#22240457 - 09/15/15 09:38 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Weed is not a respiratory system depressant and is safe to consume while on heroin. It can increase anxiety about OD though.
The most common drugs that will compound on the respiratory depression opiates cause are benzodiazepines, alcohol, GHB, and barbiturates. Combining opiates with any of these, or any of these drugs with any other one of these drugs, can be fatal and is not recommended.
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Re: Weed + heroin ... chance of overdose? [Re: ModestMouse]
#22240486 - 09/15/15 09:44 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
ModestMouse said: Weed is neither a downer nor an upper. It should have no effect on your chance of OD'ing other than the chance that you may dose too high from being baked (??) 
This.
Weed can impair judgement which puts you at higher risk for a heroin OD, but there aren't any negative physical interactions with the two.
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Re: Weed + heroin ... chance of overdose? [Re: D.M.T]
#22240509 - 09/15/15 09:50 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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So, be sure to get baked right after the admin of H. To avoid OD.
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Re: Weed + heroin ... chance of overdose? [Re: SoupSandwich]
#22240624 - 09/15/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I always used to get high earlier on if I could and then take the opiates while I was burning out to increase the nod. Smoking after I used just made me anxious and jittery and scared I was going to die.
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Re: Weed + heroin ... chance of overdose? [Re: Midnight_Toker]
#22240671 - 09/15/15 10:29 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hm, that doesn't sound like fun at all.
Maybe I'll just stick to my usual: Kratom + MJ.
Works great.
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Re: Weed + heroin ... chance of overdose? [Re: SoupSandwich]
#22240684 - 09/15/15 10:33 AM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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I always had a rocky relationship with weed though. I quit it a long time ago now because all it did was make me anxious.
Lots of people smoke weed while on opiates and have a grand ol' time.
Lots of people also quit weed when they start doing heroin though, because all of their money goes to heroin.
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